Have been gone for awhile

[DarkPlouf]

@Determined: But this is common sense Determined. I don't see anything pertinent in what you're saying. Nobody's running DMSI but locking himself at home 24/7 in hope a naked girl will magickal appear on the bed.

I don't believe either of the program or the user has to be blamed. Shannon's subliminals work. Any subliminal works. You can take a random low quality subliminal on youtube, you'll see some people having results with it, and some having none. Is it the fault of the program ? Maybe, if the script wasn't very good. Is it the fault of the user ? Maybe, if he was lusting for results or self-sabotaging himself consciously.
What I am trying to say, there are so many random factors that make a program work, or make a program not working. Even how the script is made can define which users will be more likely to excute.
You know before I was into subliminals, I was using self-hypnosis tools. And I found out that I responded better with "You are X", "You do X", than "I am X", "I do X".
This is just an example but I want you to try to picture the countless of possibilities of what could make a program not working for a given random user.

I do not think either of them should be blamed. Nor the user, nor the program. Part of the self-development journey is to know yourself and know what works and what doesn't, for you.
Not everything will go as planned no matter your will or your conscious efforts, this is reality.
Want some evidence ? Sarge for example. He approached women so many times, trying to help the program working. And so ?
How well did he execute DMSI ?
Another evidence, RTBoss. In spite of making so many internal shifts within himself, why did his wife, basically exposed to his aura ALL THE TIME, didn't respond as intended ? Is it RTBoss's fault ? DMSI's fault ? Hell you don't know if it's his wife having a blockage.

It's not about responssibility, nor technology, it's about finding what works for a given user.
EDIT: Another evidence, that guy in the testimonial forum who got amazing results with AOS, but having less with DMSI - he said it himself. So, Determined according to you he's faulty.
But I think that guy simply found what works for him.

[DarkPlouf]

And I found out that I responded better with "You are X", "You do X", than "I am X", "I do X".

By the way, this finding is quite interresting. I'd love to hear Shannon's thoughts about that. The mind is as weird as fascinating.

[Daredevil]

Shannon does not use regular affirmations since 2G so that wording is mute. Look in the script library to see what he scripted for 4G to early 5G

[DarkPlouf]

Yeah, I read he uses special things in his scripts.

[Adrien Silva]

EDIT: Another evidence, that guy in the testimonial forum who got amazing results with AOS, but having none with DMSI - he said it himself. So, Determined according to you he's faulty.
But I think that guy simply found what works for him.

Are you talking about french magnet?? If you read his dmsi journal he never mentioned he had no results. But yeah he had much better results with $20 subs then a $230 which is concerning.

[DarkPlouf]

Yeah my mistake. His exact words were " the result I have with it are better than DMSI and more consistent.".
Tho my goal wasn't to compare DMSI with AOS but to debunk Determined's theory.

[ArcticFox]

And oh, after a year of no subs, I've got promoted at work, starting dating a girl who I'm now planning to get married with, feeling better then ever in life.

Are these events in anyway related to the subs you ran before stopping?

[Determined]

Plouf, whether you realise it or not, you're actually agreeing with me with what you say.

"It's about finding what's works for a given user" which is exactly what taking responsibility for your own results is.

If you really read my above post you'd see it's an outline of how beliefs are created. There's nothing to "debunk" there.

For all the people you've mentioned I'd say they used the wrong tool for the wrong job. Finding what works is using the right tool for the right job. Everyone is different.

RTBoss, if getting his wife in the mood was his aim, then poetry of the silent Eros would have been better suited. Even then he said he received all the other benefits from DMSI, so he isn't exactly a non responder. The fact that his wife never initiated sex, I'd say there's more going on under the surface than what DMSI is doing. More than likely she needs to have H/C of her own.

[SargeMaximus]

More than likely she needs to have H/C of her own.

Hopefully Shannon has plans to address that in the new version.

[Daredevil]

I think Shannon needs to add Everything is possible programming cuz people don't believe the goal can be done.

[SargeMaximus]

I think Shannon needs to add Everything is possible programming cuz people don't believe the goal can be done.

I believe it can be done. I've been approached the most as far as I can tell (from random women that is). It's just not there yet.

[DarkPlouf]

Plouf, whether you realise it or not, you're actually agreeing with me with what you say.

"It's about finding what's works for a given user" which is exactly what taking responsibility for your own results is.

If you really read my above post you'd see it's an outline of how beliefs are created. There's nothing to "debunk" there.

For all the people you've mentioned I'd say they used the wrong tool for the wrong job. Finding what works is using the right tool for the right job. Everyone is different.

RTBoss, if getting his wife in the mood was his aim, then poetry of the silent Eros would have been better suited. Even then he said he received all the other benefits from DMSI, so he isn't exactly a non responder. The fact that his wife never initiated sex, I'd say there's more going on under the surface than what DMSI is doing. More than likely she needs to have H/C of her own.

Alright, I get what you're saying now.

[ArcticFox]

And oh, after a year of no subs, I've got promoted at work, starting dating a girl who I'm now planning to get married with, feeling better then ever in life.

Are these events in anyway related to the subs you ran before stopping?

I guess from your lack of response to my post and others you basically achieved what you set out to do, drop a flame bomb then walk away. For me this basically reduces your post to worthless.

Any discussions in this thread should be taken elsewhere IMHO, so not as to give Lokko the satisfaction of us arguing amongst ourselves.

[Benjamin]

I guess from your lack of response to my post and others you basically achieved what you set out to do, drop a flame bomb then walk away. For me this basically reduces your post to worthless.

Any discussions in this thread should be taken elsewhere IMHO, so not as to give Lokko the satisfaction of us arguing amongst ourselves.

That's exactly what I thought about the post initially.