Another thread on SM v DMSI :)

[koshas]

DMSI did not give me not nearly as much comfort or made me feel nearly as at ease as AM/SM/WM did.

something for shannon to look into

i can agree with this.

[DarkPlouf]

I second this too.

[thor2014]

Question to those who completed the SM and WM runs. Why are you using DMSI if SM and WM worked so well for you ?

[Raykon]

Question to those who completed the SM and WM runs. Why are you using DMSI if SM and WM worked so well for you ?

I stayed on DMSI because of the 5.5g technology I assumed its way better. And also because everyone was (but specifically Shannon) said it was way better so I wanted to stay on as long as possible to hopefully hit a peak where it really digs deep.

[Raykon]

The subs i had the most effects from are am6,wm,sm and eprha 2.

wm was a real feel good sub for me.

Oh yeah WM made me feel so good inside. I had such a good time in life at that point while on it. That's why I stayed on for 5 stages and didnt switch subs. I just felt too good on it.

I really liked that about WM. I didn't like how it took away allot of the masculinity from SM and AM programming that I had though.

[thor2014]

From peoples experiences so far I would have to conclude that DMSI in its current state does not work. Its very possible their is a problem with the script which is why it does not work for alot of people.

My suggestion would be to rewrite the script from the ground up and create two versions one for men and one for women.

[Shannon]

From peoples experiences so far I would have to conclude that DMSI in its current state does not work. Its very possible their is a problem with the script which is why it does not work for alot of people.

My suggestion would be to rewrite the script from the ground up and create two versions one for men and one for women.

How about you spend a year rewriting the script from the ground up, and running through all that effort and testing, and get back to me when you are finished?

That's just insulting and asinine to say, Thor, on top of ignorant.

You guys think SM3 is better because you see better results on it. You see better results not because it's better or stronger, but because the ratio of resistance triggered to effect is more in favor of the effect. In other words, it is much weaker, which triggers much less resistance, which means you seem to get better results.

DMSI and 5.5G in general is vastly more powerful, and for a lot of people this means it digs deeper and triggers a LOT more resistance. That's how you know it is more powerful. The key now is, finish making it overpower whatever resistance it triggers, and finish fleshing it out and tuning it to be what all it needs to be to work. It's so complex that you can't work on all of it at once. Some of what is up next is to adjust the aura as is necessary to prevent resistance on the affected side, and implement the Magnus Engine to push through the fear-based resistance the program instructions are triggering in the user.

The point of developing 6G is to develop it to overcome any and all resistance, and get the sub able to be pointed at ANY target and succeed.

You guys have no idea what you're talking about, as usual.

[thor2014]

The ultimatum at the end of the day are the results and not so much the technology that you have worked so hard to develop.

[DarkPlouf]

What I don't get is why would the user resist DMSI, but not DAOS, SW and WM and similar but older subs when they basically have the same end goal. And more than a few users even noticed better results on older versions of DMSI. If the user's subconscious was so much against the idea of being attractive, they wouldn't even execute these olds subs in the first place. And they wouldn't also get an indirect increase of attention from the opposite gender on some subs like on EPHRA.

I absolutely respect your work and I won't tell you to rewrite DMSI from the ground up like if it holds no value as for now. I read your old entries when you first released the 5G technology so I can imagine it's really a hard work from your part. I can't live it but I can imagine it.

But, maybe consider that the issue with DMSI is more than just the resistance.
We still don't know the exact goal phrasing, and most of us suspect something is "off" about the targeting.
Yes, we can just shut up and wait for 3.2 hoping it'll magickally work as intended for most user but some of us want to contribute, and this is understandable. Of course we likely don't know what we're talking about but you're not clearing up our concerns either.

[Shannon]

The world is not so simple as you guys would like to believe it is.

You assume that Action (Results) = Power (A=P). This is not the case. Instead, the equation looks like this (simplified, of course):

Action (Results) = Power / Resistance (A = P/R)

So you can have a 5G program work better than a 5.5G program, provided that the value of P is greater than 1.0. For example,

For the sake of illustration, presume that SM3 has 20 units of power, and DMSI has 90.

As long as SM3 maintains a ratio of power to resistance more strongly in favor of the power it has, it will achieve greater action from the user, like this:

A (SM3) = 25/20 (more power than it generates resistance to results in overcoming the resistance it generates, and thus, more action)

A (DMSI 3.1) = 90/95 (less power than it generates resistance to, which results in more resistance than it can overcome, and thus, less action towards the goal than resistance to action towards the goal)

You can clearly see that it is possible to have a program be more powerful, and less effective. That is due to tuning. Right now, DMSI is not finished, and not fully tuned. It is a technology set and power level that is still becoming. The process we were following was, Make a prototype, test prototype, determine through real life testings what works and what doesn't, make corrections and adjustments, repeat.

That process got forcibly interrupted.

So on top of misunderstanding the power of a subliminal, you're judging a finished product and technology set against one that, while it is indeed more powerful and has vastly more potential, is still not finished or tuned.

And Thor, use your brain. At the end of the day, you want the results, but you have to develop the technology that produces those results. The only reason 5.5G triggers so much resistance in the first place is that the goal is one that scares the hell out of people, and the power level is enough to make them subconsciously react with all out war on the program's goals and instructions.

The difference being, you get more obvious results from SM3 right now, but the results are shallow and low level results. DMSI is doing things with and to you that are changing you and the world around you in some pretty incredible ways, but you guys are still resisting more than the program can overcome.

There are plans for dealing with that. Just have to get to where I can work.

[thor2014]

Your products certainly do live upto my expectations and thats why I buy them !.

For DMSI I don't care about whether your technology is the latest and greatest. What I want to see are results as advertised.

"to cause people who are of the gender you find sexually attractive to be irresistibly attracted to you and aroused by you sexually to the degree that they actually and repeatedly try to initiate and have as much physical sex with you as you allow them to"

Thats all that matters to myself and the majority of people who buy this product. Given this is still an experimental I appreciate its going to take time to evolve into a fully fledged working product.