12-17-2015, 11:15 PM
Quote:I totally agree RealJustin.
You don't release the scripts because you live in fear of your competitors?? what competitors, every other subliminal company sells basic mp3s which are not so much subliminals but affirmations.
You're making a rather large assumption there. I do not fear my competitors. I just got tired of doing all the work and having them steal it from me. If you spent years developing something, and then the guy next to you started selling it after hearing about it, wouldn't that bother you? It means I am working to put money in someone else's pocket instead of my own.
Quote:As an end user, technically we are entitled to know the subliminal messages that are being pumped into our minds. We don't make a fuss though, because we your loyal client base have developed trust with indigo mind labs, however threatening your customers with fear over an AP code seems highly unethical, at the end of the day, what makes it your right to interfere with how a consumer uses your product?
You do have the right to know what's going into your mind. And I have the right to keep my work and results from my competition, and I have the right to expect fair compensation for my work. So we have an impasse.
I never threatened you with fear. You're afraid because TheRealJustin is flipping out over it because apparently he's feeling guilty and afraid that my AP code might catch him. I can't think of any other reason why he would come up with such ridiculous worries... threatening your life? Your health? Sending you to prison? Seriously? I'm interested in working, developing this technology, and funding my real goals, not playing vengeance games and going to court.
Quote:The consumer has a right to do with as he pleases, there is nothing legally wrong with sharing a consumer product, and anyone who chose to challenge this would easily win in court as the products are now being advertised in an unethical manner, fear mongering etc. Piracy laws exist and you have your right to make piracy claims in the normal manner, so why you so scared?
The consumer does not have the right to do with the product as he pleases. That logic would shut down every business in the land overnight. Do you think you own that copy of Windows you use? Or OS-X? No, those are licensed. You are allowed to use them in exchange for something else of value. In the case of Windows, they spy on you and sell the data for advertising. In the case of OS-X, they make you pay money for the computer it comes on. But you don't have the right to do whatever you want after the fact.
And the same is true here. You can use my product, but you must return fair value. If you are not reasonable enough to pay for it, like a decent person, then I will find another way to keep things afloat.
Piracy laws exist, but they are far from perfect. I'll point out the flaws, which (yay!) favor pirates.
1. Not all of the people who steal from me are in the United States. This makes building a case very challenging, if not futile, against those persons.
2. Lawyers are not known for working for free. Fighting a legal battle on that front is going to be very expensive, which could sink this business. How stupid would I have to be to sink the business to legally attack someone who probably doesn't even have the capacity financially to pay me back for the legal fees I spent? Even if they go to jail, I'm out of work.
3. I can't spend my time working on catching all the pirates and working on developing the technology.
4. For every one I know about, there are hundreds more, and not all of them are even aware that what they're doing is illegal. Piracy isn't defeated by using the court system. It's defeated by education, which is what the AP code does.
Quote:So what if John buys a product from you and Terry comes along and receives value from it, in the long run wouldnt that help improve your customer base, as terry has seen value in your product and may decide to make a further purchase.
If Terry recieves value from it while John is using it for himself, then Terry is welcome to recieve value from it, because it is incidental to John receiving value from what he PAID FOR.
But allowing people to just waltz off with my work and "maybe I'll pay, someday..." Go to your bank and see if they'll let you pay on your loan "maybe, someday..."
Go tell the tax man, "I'll pay off my taxes, maybe, someday..."
It doesn't work like that. I don't get to eat "Maybe, someday". I can't pay my own taxes "maybe, someday". I can't keep the business running if I pay the landlord and the electric bill and the Internet access and the servers and and and "maybe, someday".
That's why we have this system. You know, the one where I create something of value, and I set a price for it, and then if you want to use and benefit from it, you actually PAY for it? That system that lets me benefit from making these programs, and lets me put gas in my car and pay for oil changes, and buy food and pay taxes and pay for the Internet access and keep the office and house insurance and car insurance and property taxes and and and...
Quote:In interest of investigating this further, I scoped out subliminal-shop torrents from numerous public and private trackers, from what i can find your torrents havent been downloaded much, lack of availability suggests you already have a loyal customer base and lack of overall torrents suggests that the piraters dont really have a high demand for these. So where is your concern, at the very least you should include a text copy of the AP code used in each sub with each sub, otherwise you will begin to lose trust from the consumer end.
How do you know why they're not downloaded much? Perhaps it's the knowledge of AP code?
Quote:In interest of competition, also I cant see any real competition for Indigo Mind Labs that actually charge for products, your retail competitors are going down not because you wont release your "secrets" but because contect creators on Youtube are creating better quality subliminals than them that are free for all. Maybe Indigo Mind Labs should get into the youtube scene, put up some old 3G titles and attract a new customer base.
As someone else said, "advertising" with outdated technology is not advertising, it's shooting yourself in the foot. We stopped offering them because they were out of date and not representing the technology well.
That's like saying, "Hey, go give away 1970's Firebirds to advertise the new Porche!"
Although having the free stuff available on Youtube isn't such a bad idea, but we don't want to advertise with old tech.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!