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I think its impossible for you to programm us in that way that we cant experience negative emotions. So if the subs can make us achive our goals more effective since fear hate and so on are powerful emotions, then go do it i am ok with. For me the most negative emotion i can have is not achieving my goals.

I also read somewhere that sugestions with negative emotions are more effective.

Anyway to the rest of the discussion here, i think its pretty unfair towards shannon. You guys should be ashamed.

And shanon you seem to be stressed, i suggest you to ignore the forum for a while and concentrate on your work.

I wouldn't say "ignore the forum", it gives a feeling of trust toward Shannon when he takes time to reply and explain his point of view and reasons for doing so and so. But only as long as it doesn't become a stumbling block on the way of the important work (no pressure)

On the negative emotions: I have noticed a lot of them during OF so I don't get exactly what Shannon meant with that.
Time spent on OF has however made me less inclined to choose the negative emotions when some event would normally trigger them, instead some times I would let go of them. This can sometimes trigger another layer of negative emotions relating to standing up for ones self, insecurity and generally feeling weak.

I'm glad that a new version of OF is coming out soon and that it has a more subtle angle on tackling fear, the 4g version can take a serious toll on you.

I do not intentionally induce negative emotions. I made every effort that I knew how to make when that program was built to shield the conscious mind from any awareness of them, and avoid inducing them in the first place. It's not my goal to force march people through their fears, or stress them. That just happens to have been an unexpected harsh reality that I had to learn from and adjust for in the new version - which is why the new version is coming out.

I do understand that, it's just the way of trial and error. To be fair I haven't had the easiest time on any subs so I'm more inclined to think it's me rather than the subs. I'll be stopping on the 30th of December which will be exactly 200 days of OF, so I'll be writing a full feedback on the program if it would help any one.