12-15-2015, 08:46 PM
(12-08-2015, 06:41 AM)Darwin Wrote:(12-07-2015, 11:53 AM)FrostedFake Wrote:(12-07-2015, 10:25 AM)Darwin Wrote:(12-05-2015, 03:59 PM)Benjamin Wrote: TheRealJustin.. it's fine for you to disagree but the way you're posting about this is pretty disrespectful to Shannon with some of the stuff you've said. If you're going to argue against it cut that out and do it rationally.
Is there an important point in what's been said? All the bluster aside , we all sign up to use Shannon's products and have to take it on trust that what's being 'put in our brains' is what we pay for.
However with people talking about their addiction to subs , and the potential for commands being subliminally given to us without our consent, I.e. Those that we wouldn't want if we knew all the scripts that go in, it does seem that there's a potential for abuse here.
The addicted thing was a joke...
cool. point remains. big trust factor. but then i guess there are people who return subs, say that they don't work, etc. which is evidence against there being any issue.
I remember reading the scripts once and there was some scripting which suggested that part of what was being programmed was to find value in the subs, which struck me as a little un toward. I've been meaning to raise it as a concern but perhaps privately would have been better.
I use scripting to help people be aware of the value they get from the program, but that's just countering the naturalizer's effect. It's not inventing awareness of value that wasn't there. The naturalizer by itself is very good at making changes so smooth that people can't always see what happens. So there's instructions, usually near the end, to recognize the changes that have happened and the value they gained. I don't invent perception of value, though; if they genuinely got no value, it won't magically appear as a result of the scripting I use to make people aware of what happened at the end. It's just harder to overcome resistance without the naturalizer, but at the end, it can have worked so well that the person has no idea that they've accomplished their goals. For example, I have actually had smokers come crying to me that they couldn't quit no matter what they tried, use the stop smoking program and successfully quit, only to tell me they just quit because they "forgot to smoke" and it was nothing to do with the program.
I don't want your money if the product does not work, but I don't think it's reasonable to refund you if it did work, and you just didn't notice.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!