(09-24-2016, 09:25 AM)CatMan Wrote:(09-24-2016, 06:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:(09-24-2016, 04:59 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7954-p...#pid133505
(09-24-2016, 04:30 AM)Sickologist Wrote: The low-key aura is too boring for the type of women we are looking for, basically I've noticed that paople see me as this social, well rounded kind of alpha dude that they can tell anything. It's better than nothing, but it's not good enough. That would work for some people, but I want blatant sexuality again. I want women to look at me like "holy shit, that guy is HOTT!" like they did on 2.3. This is definitely not heading in the right direction, it has to be said. Even AOS+BITBWS was better than 2.4. I've also lost the edge I had after running this sub, it's too social, just can't dig it. Women don't want dirty sex with harmless social guys they can joke around with, aka puas.
We need different versions that people can pick and choose from. I'm thinking about it now, I'll make a post somewhere to discuss my thoughts on that.(09-24-2016, 04:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: Primarily, what you're complaining about is the fact that 2.4 has healing modules, and 2.3 doesn't. I'm of the opinion right now that the healing effects are going to drag you off course for the goal of the program as much as is necessary to focus on those things that will get you to the goal of the program.
2.4 has two major goals. To get you to where you can and will fully execute the script and achieve the goals of the program, and to execute its script and achieve it's goals. You're not going to achieve the latter on all cylinders firing until you have achieved the former. And just because you don't consciously think you need it, doesn't mean it's not true. The difference between the results you get speaks for itself.
This is why I was thinking about putting out 2.5, actually. I knew someone would be saying things like this soon.
When you created 2.4 with healing you also improved many things. If you were to release 2.5; does that mean it would be exactly like 2.4 without the healing??
If you do release 2.5, that means you'll be headed towards releasing two versions of 3.0.1!!
Back to square one. One stage - one size fits all... hoping they have the patience to see it to the end.
Two stager - Something for everybody, for a price!! If you do end up making a two stage DMSI. Sell them separately at full price for each and purchase both at a discount.
2.5 would be without healing, yes.
I was thinking that 3.x series would have to be 2 stage anyway, based on the incessant complaints no matter what I do with regard to healing. Then the people most dissatisfied will constantly switch back and forth, and if they don't get results, it's their own fault.
Of course, I'll get blamed regardless.
Shannon...YOU are the expert. NOT them. There's no legit reason for them to question your rationale. Don't let some squeaky wheels in denial about their issues ruin the program for all of us. Keep it single stage, KEEP the healing in there. The healing is short circuiting once it's complete anyway, so they literally aren't losing anything. If the modules are activating, obviously they NEED healing, regardless of what they believe. If they think V2.3 was so much better, go back to it. PLEASE don't drag all of us through yet another waste of a month or more testing a non-healing sub just to prove a point...for the SECOND time, now...just for the sake of those who don't want healing and already have V2.3 to use if that's the case, anyway. There's zero benefit to making a new program without healing, it's a waste of your time and ours. Tell them to go back to V2.3.
Focus on building single stage V3 for those of us willing to admit we need healing, don't downgrade the program for a tiny minority in denial. Single stage because as I said before, we know we'll have guys not using the healing track and then whining when they don't get results, and there's no real way to know WHEN the healing is done, so single stage is the most practical here to fix those issues. Judging by all the posts and journals, there isn't a single man on this forum that DOESN'T need healing modules for this program, I don't give a damn what they say. Tell them to put their money where their mouth is, and go back to V2.3 then if they liked it more and think it's better. They already have their option they prefer right there in V2.3, so this shouldn't be an issue. Don't let the program get railroaded because of them, their arrogance and denial. And again, the program's healing modules are short circuiting when they're done, so literally nobody is losing anything by having them in there, so I'm surprised this is such an issue with people.
I see no other reasonable course of action.
okay i will go back to 2.3
i think catman shanon is not dumb he wants and needs our feedback and wants a working program himself and he is testing the subs by his own too
read my old 2.3 journal i had a gf and several other girls dtf
what i have now ?
also the old 4 programms had one goal like biatbw and aos and they worked why has everything to be so filled with different scripts now,... if every programm has everything in it we dont need to buy different programms for it because everything is nearly the same then
just make the programs do what they are supposed to do ...
i dont care about healing i dont care about having man being nice i want pussy when i use dmsi easy pussy thats why i use a brainwashing program for it
if i want healing i will buy/use ephra or ogfs or of
if i want to be social and respect i will buy/use am
but if i buy/use dmsi i want easy pussy thats it and thats the reason all of you guys bought it secretly no matter what you say now
i dont need the programm to make me sleep better or feel good, or being happy i want it bring me pussy
why did biabtw work then ? it had no healing and it was 4g and it didnt require anything to run before using it and guys still got pussy on it sry i just dont get it
sry to say this but i think all the resistent guys that dont get results with it but are satisfied as long as they feel good on it and get healing are fucking this thing up for us who get results because shanon puts more and more stuff in it to get past the resistence and cant figure out what the problem is
ephra 2 is much more effective in terms of healing why you dont use it instead
indeed you did use it catman and then switched to it
that is no attack to anyone or such thing just my perspective and things i wanted to say long time ago but hesitated
and to be honest catman i saw more growth in jour 2.3 journal you seemed to be solidifying and stop caring what you are doing wrong and being enough
on 2.4 you seem to become your old self questioning a lot of concepts about women and pua