06-01-2017, 12:51 PM
(06-01-2017, 11:53 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: You cannot derive any meaningful data from N = 2. You are basing your entire philosophy on approaching and meeting women on the most insignificant piece of "data," if you even want to call it that, considering the fact that there's a million other variables that aren't being considered.
If going unbathed and unkempt was so superior than the other extreme, why aren't you getting MORE women in your current state? Why aren't more mouthbreathing omegas getting more women? You really think that there's something special about just YOU that allows you to smell bad and wear nasty clothes and still get women?
I'm not unkempt or unbathed in my current state. I've been keeping near-OCD level hygeine for a while now. By your logic I should be swimming in pussy.
(06-01-2017, 11:53 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: This nonsense is tied to a much deeper trauma that exists within you, one that you've mentioned time and time again -- an unwillingness to do anything for women, especially when it comes to them receiving any kind of pleasure from it. And in your mind, you've clearly associated most forms of self-improvement as "doing it for women's pleasure," and you're rejecting it. And your way of resisting / rebelling is to make yourself as unattractive as possible, so in the off chance that you do attract a woman, she'll receive no social value or status or pleasure from being with an attractive man (because you are quite handsome), while you receive all benefit.
It's cause I'm confused.
All this "be your own man" "don't put women on a pedestal" "don't supplicate" talk has me confused because the ONLY reason I'm improving myself is for women and money. I don't give a f*ck either way.
BUT, you seem to be ignoring the fact that I AM showering, improving my social skills, and etc.
I AM doing all that you say I'm not.
MY POINT is that it's not working.
(06-01-2017, 11:53 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: You need to flip your thought process. You're literally holding yourself back from greatness because of this fear of women receiving benefits from your hard work. That's just the way of the world, man. People are going to try and take your value and for free if they can. You just have to be cognizant of it and adjust the "contract" so that it either favors you or gives you favorable terms. Every human interaction has a transactional value. Every interaction. There's no way to avoid it, there's no way to change it. It's pretty much natural law.
Yeah well I keep asking you to clarify this so I can do exactly that because I have no idea how to otherwise.
Write a book with actionable "how to" steps with clear indicators in it so I know I'm going the right way (i.e. if a girl says/acts like this it means your being beta/alpha etc). I'd buy it. I'm looking to improve myself and get what I deserve but so far improving myself has led to next to no benefits. That's a fact. ioi's, butt displays, great. Meaningless. Hairdresser that comes onto you then does a 180? what is that? Because I wasn't showered (I was actually).
So yeah, you can understand (or should) my hesitation to simply believe what you're saying when I am in fact doing much of what you and Shannon suggest yet am getting nowhere. I ask again, what "N" is that?
