(09-21-2016, 02:58 PM)Shannon Wrote: You know what... I think I just figured out a BIG part of the issue! DMSI is aimed at sex, and you want a relationship. Not just sex. Am I right?

(09-22-2016, 03:59 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-4807-post-133095.html#pid133095

(09-21-2016, 02:58 PM)Shannon Wrote: You know what... I think I just figured out a BIG part of the issue! DMSI is aimed at sex, and you want a relationship. Not just sex. Am I right?

Does this make 2.4 ineffective if the listener wants a relationship?
As opposed to wanting sex as the primary goal?

Shannon Wrote:Tweaking the manifestors in DMSI 3.0.1

(09-23-2016, 05:07 AM)robstar Wrote: Shannon, a few months ago, I had a girl I was seeing and starting to fall for bail on me out of the blue.. I thought I was beginning to get over it to a reasonable level, until I started to run dsmi 2.4.. Now it feels like I'm experiencing the break up over and over again, all I can think about is how badly I want her back, the intensity is almost unbearable. Is this the healing modules of dsmi expressing themselves? Will this pass? I'm getting attention from girls, I even had a girl give me her number while I was busking the other day, but I don't care because all I can think about is her.

(09-23-2016, 05:11 AM)Shannon Wrote: Yes, this is one of the effects of the healing modules. Yes, it will pass. The goal of the healing modules is to identify, seek out and neutralize anything and everything within you that represents an emotional issue that might prevent you from achieving success with the program. So you are just healing a case of one-itis you didn't know you had. This too shall pass.

(09-23-2016, 05:37 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Everything about the sub is becoming "normalized." At first, I wasn't sure if I'd be able to handle v2.4. It was REALLY, REALLY rough on the body in the beginning. Yeah, I was getting the DMSI Morphine Drip, but I could still feel the tiredness and the heaviness beneath it. There was still a lot of tension in my body. The aura would almost burn my skin. Now, I can still feel the aura when it projects, but only when I'm looking for it. Otherwise, it just feels like a natural biological process -- that I have this enhanced aura. I'm also not getting any major, super noticeable IOIs. I think. It dawned on me that the IOIs are happening so much that they've become normal and I don't consciously perceive them.

Like other people, I'm thinking about women less and less, particularly on my non-resistance days. On those days, I'm in an awesome flow state. Money, abundance and power just flows into my life.

(09-24-2016, 04:30 AM)Sickologist Wrote: The low-key aura is too boring for the type of women we are looking for, basically I've noticed that paople see me as this social, well rounded kind of alpha dude that they can tell anything. It's better than nothing, but it's not good enough. That would work for some people, but I want blatant sexuality again. I want women to look at me like "holy shit, that guy is HOTT!" like they did on 2.3. This is definitely not heading in the right direction, it has to be said. Even AOS+BITBWS was better than 2.4. I've also lost the edge I had after running this sub, it's too social, just can't dig it. Women don't want dirty sex with harmless social guys they can joke around with, aka puas.

We need different versions that people can pick and choose from. I'm thinking about it now, I'll make a post somewhere to discuss my thoughts on that.

(09-24-2016, 04:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: Primarily, what you're complaining about is the fact that 2.4 has healing modules, and 2.3 doesn't. I'm of the opinion right now that the healing effects are going to drag you off course for the goal of the program as much as is necessary to focus on those things that will get you to the goal of the program.

2.4 has two major goals. To get you to where you can and will fully execute the script and achieve the goals of the program, and to execute its script and achieve it's goals. You're not going to achieve the latter on all cylinders firing until you have achieved the former. And just because you don't consciously think you need it, doesn't mean it's not true. The difference between the results you get speaks for itself.

This is why I was thinking about putting out 2.5, actually. I knew someone would be saying things like this soon.

(09-24-2016, 04:59 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: When you created 2.4 with healing you also improved many things. If you were to release 2.5; does that mean it would be exactly like 2.4 without the healing??

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If you do release 2.5, that means you'll be headed towards releasing two versions of 3.0.1!!

Back to square one. One stage - one size fits all... hoping they have the patience to see it to the end.

Two stager - Something for everybody, for a price!! If you do end up making a two stage DMSI. Sell them separately at full price for each and purchase both at a discount.

(09-24-2016, 04:59 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7954-post-133505.html#pid133505

(09-24-2016, 04:30 AM)Sickologist Wrote: The low-key aura is too boring for the type of women we are looking for, basically I've noticed that paople see me as this social, well rounded kind of alpha dude that they can tell anything. It's better than nothing, but it's not good enough. That would work for some people, but I want blatant sexuality again. I want women to look at me like "holy shit, that guy is HOTT!" like they did on 2.3. This is definitely not heading in the right direction, it has to be said. Even AOS+BITBWS was better than 2.4. I've also lost the edge I had after running this sub, it's too social, just can't dig it. Women don't want dirty sex with harmless social guys they can joke around with, aka puas.

We need different versions that people can pick and choose from. I'm thinking about it now, I'll make a post somewhere to discuss my thoughts on that.

(09-24-2016, 04:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: Primarily, what you're complaining about is the fact that 2.4 has healing modules, and 2.3 doesn't. I'm of the opinion right now that the healing effects are going to drag you off course for the goal of the program as much as is necessary to focus on those things that will get you to the goal of the program.

2.4 has two major goals. To get you to where you can and will fully execute the script and achieve the goals of the program, and to execute its script and achieve it's goals. You're not going to achieve the latter on all cylinders firing until you have achieved the former. And just because you don't consciously think you need it, doesn't mean it's not true. The difference between the results you get speaks for itself.

This is why I was thinking about putting out 2.5, actually. I knew someone would be saying things like this soon.

When you created 2.4 with healing you also improved many things. If you were to release 2.5; does that mean it would be exactly like 2.4 without the healing??

---

If you do release 2.5, that means you'll be headed towards releasing two versions of 3.0.1!!

Back to square one. One stage - one size fits all... hoping they have the patience to see it to the end.

Two stager - Something for everybody, for a price!! If you do end up making a two stage DMSI. Sell them separately at full price for each and purchase both at a discount.

(09-24-2016, 06:31 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(09-24-2016, 04:59 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-7954-post-133505.html#pid133505

(09-24-2016, 04:30 AM)Sickologist Wrote: The low-key aura is too boring for the type of women we are looking for, basically I've noticed that paople see me as this social, well rounded kind of alpha dude that they can tell anything. It's better than nothing, but it's not good enough. That would work for some people, but I want blatant sexuality again. I want women to look at me like "holy shit, that guy is HOTT!" like they did on 2.3. This is definitely not heading in the right direction, it has to be said. Even AOS+BITBWS was better than 2.4. I've also lost the edge I had after running this sub, it's too social, just can't dig it. Women don't want dirty sex with harmless social guys they can joke around with, aka puas.

We need different versions that people can pick and choose from. I'm thinking about it now, I'll make a post somewhere to discuss my thoughts on that.

(09-24-2016, 04:46 AM)Shannon Wrote: Primarily, what you're complaining about is the fact that 2.4 has healing modules, and 2.3 doesn't. I'm of the opinion right now that the healing effects are going to drag you off course for the goal of the program as much as is necessary to focus on those things that will get you to the goal of the program.

2.4 has two major goals. To get you to where you can and will fully execute the script and achieve the goals of the program, and to execute its script and achieve it's goals. You're not going to achieve the latter on all cylinders firing until you have achieved the former. And just because you don't consciously think you need it, doesn't mean it's not true. The difference between the results you get speaks for itself.

This is why I was thinking about putting out 2.5, actually. I knew someone would be saying things like this soon.

When you created 2.4 with healing you also improved many things. If you were to release 2.5; does that mean it would be exactly like 2.4 without the healing??

---

If you do release 2.5, that means you'll be headed towards releasing two versions of 3.0.1!!

Back to square one. One stage - one size fits all... hoping they have the patience to see it to the end.

Two stager - Something for everybody, for a price!! If you do end up making a two stage DMSI. Sell them separately at full price for each and purchase both at a discount.

2.5 would be without healing, yes.

I was thinking that 3.x series would have to be 2 stage anyway, based on the incessant complaints no matter what I do with regard to healing. Then the people most dissatisfied will constantly switch back and forth, and if they don't get results, it's their own fault.

Of course, I'll get blamed regardless.

(09-24-2016, 07:39 AM)Snoop Wrote: The problem I can potentially see with the two stage sub is how would someone know that sufficient healing has occurred to move to the next stage. With the single stage, I am assuming that the results would automatically show up as sufficient healing is achieved. People need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day and the probability is that you won't get instant results either.

(09-24-2016, 07:54 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote:

(09-24-2016, 07:39 AM)Snoop Wrote: The problem I can potentially see with the two stage sub is how would someone know that sufficient healing has occurred to move to the next stage. With the single stage, I am assuming that the results would automatically show up as sufficient healing is achieved. People need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day and the probability is that you won't get instant results either.

I'm sure like E2 http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/emotional-pain-relief-healing-aid-2-0/ there is something in the script that allows the listener to "know" it is time to move on; could be put into the Healing version of DMSI.

(09-24-2016, 07:39 AM)Snoop Wrote: The problem I can potentially see with the two stage sub is how would someone know that sufficient healing has occurred to move to the next stage. With the single stage, I am assuming that the results would automatically show up as sufficient healing is achieved. People need to be patient. Rome wasn't built in a day and the probability is that you won't get instant results either.

(09-24-2016, 07:54 AM)4Kingdoms Wrote: I'm sure like E2 http://www.subliminal-shop.com/product/emotional-pain-relief-healing-aid-2-0/ there is something in the script that allows the listener to "know" it is time to move on; could be put into the Healing version of DMSI.

(09-24-2016, 08:05 AM)Snoop Wrote: Some people are so impatient that they will switch subs intermittently just to see if results will show up potentially srewing up their run regardless. My preference would be to have everything in one sub so the results show up when healing is truly achieved.