Subliminal Talk
Shannon's Journal Discussion - Printable Version

+- Subliminal Talk (https://subliminal-talk.com)
+-- Forum: Men's Journals (18+ NSFW) (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals-18-NSFW)
+--- Forum: Men's Journals (https://subliminal-talk.com/Forum-Men-s-Journals)
+--- Thread: Shannon's Journal Discussion (/Thread-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion)

Pages: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 329 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445 446 447 448 449 450 451 452 453 454 455 456 457 458 459 460 461 462 463 464 465 466 467 468 469 470 471 472 473 474 475 476 477 478 479 480 481 482 483 484 485 486 487 488 489 490 491 492 493 494 495 496 497 498 499 500 501 502 503 504 505 506 507 508 509 510 511 512 513 514 515 516 517 518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537 538 539 540 541 542 543 544 545 546 547 548 549 550 551 552 553 554 555 556 557 558 559 560 561 562 563 564 565 566 567 568 569 570 571 572 573 574 575 576 577 578 579 580 581 582 583 584 585 586 587 588 589 590 591 592 593 594 595 596 597 598 599 600 601 602 603 604 605 606 607 608 609 610 611 612 613 614 615 616 617 618 619 620 621 622 623 624 625 626 627 628 629 630 631 632 633 634 635 636 637 638 639 640 641 642 643 644 645 646 647 648 649 650 651 652 653 654 655 656 657 658 659 660 661 662 663 664 665 666 667 668 669 670 671 672 673 674 675 676 677 678 679 680 681 682 683 684 685 686 687 688 689 690 691

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 11-09-2016

Quote:After some of the research and experiments I have done, I believe it is possible for a person to actually be able to influence another person, entirely through their aura alone, to perceive them as looking 1 to 3 points better on the classical 1 to 10 scale than they would normally be perceived to be - and possibly even more.

Thats great an all but this wouldn't help guys that look like the 1s,2, and 3s on in this scale? You need to be atleast a 8/10 to constantly fuk attractive women. 7/10 and 6/10 men can do well but they are inconsistent:

[Image: tumblr_mddd4uVvOK1r4qw78o1_1280.png]



Quote:If I am correct, this would mean that a user who rates a 7, 8, 9 or 10 could get an affected 10 to go after them... instead of just a user who rates a 10.

I don't understand? are you saying a guy thats a 7, 8, 9, 10 on the scale can get a 10/10 to go after the user for sex?

If so where does that leave the men from 1-6?

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Blink - 11-09-2016

(11-09-2016, 11:40 AM)posh Wrote:
Quote:If I am correct, this would mean that a user who rates a 7, 8, 9 or 10 could get an affected 10 to go after them... instead of just a user who rates a 10.

I don't understand? are you saying a guy thats a 7, 8, 9, 10 on the scale can get a 10/10 to go after the user for sex?

If so where does that leave the men from 1-6?

At most 3 points higher. A 1 would be able to be pursued by at most a 4, a 6 by at most a 9. That's how I understand it.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shannon - 11-09-2016

(11-09-2016, 12:06 PM)Blink Wrote:
(11-09-2016, 11:40 AM)posh Wrote:
Quote:If I am correct, this would mean that a user who rates a 7, 8, 9 or 10 could get an affected 10 to go after them... instead of just a user who rates a 10.

I don't understand? are you saying a guy thats a 7, 8, 9, 10 on the scale can get a 10/10 to go after the user for sex?

If so where does that leave the men from 1-6?

At most 3 points higher. A 1 would be able to be pursued by at most a 4, a 6 by at most a 9. That's how I understand it.

Consider this...

I am proposing that it is possible, AND THAT I BELIEVE I CAN ACTUALLY DO IT, to actually program a person's mind to project a field of energy that selectively affects the perceptions of other people through all of their physical sense, to significantly raise their perception of the projector's attractiveness physically and in other ways...

and the question you ask me is...

Quote:If so where does that leave the men from 1-6?

It doesn't take a freakin' rocket scientist to understand that IF I can actually do this for a majority of the users of this program, even ONE point of improvement would be a virtual miracle. In fact I suspect we have already accomplished this goal, but we won't know it because there's no real definitive way to measure it.

What I am proposing to do here is flat out mind bendingly incredible, and you ask me...

Nevermind.

Back to work.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Life - 11-09-2016

Yeah self esteem needs a boost if u think ur below a 5 I mean our own merits should be at least enough to achieve that

Edit: just saw the scale above I don't think dmsi would even be the right sub choice for them

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - JackOfHearts - 11-09-2016

That's scale is a so crude way to look at attractiveness. The most exaggerated stuff seems to be the hygiene. Those best looking guys at the top if they would stop going to the the bathroom for 1 week wouldn't become a 6 or a 7, most people wouldn't notice the difference, worst they may appear more attractive due to pheromone. Such an erroneous belief system the guy who wrote that rating must have.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Dilettante - 11-09-2016

@Shannon: thank you for addressing my top concern. The update you wrote is indeed great news and i'm glad you did not deviate from the goal but rather strengthened your commitment to it. Thank you and Godspeed sir.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - posh - 11-09-2016

(11-09-2016, 01:03 PM)Alpha360 Wrote: That's scale is a so crude way to look at attractiveness. The most exaggerated stuff seems to be the hygiene. Those best looking guys at the top if they would stop going to the the bathroom for 1 week wouldn't become a 6 or a 7, most people wouldn't notice the difference, worst they may appear more attractive due to pheromone. Such an erroneous belief system the guy who wrote that rating must have.

this is a better scale. Open new tab and zoom to read it.

[Image: 1474865558195.jpg]

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Have at ye - 11-09-2016

I always thought these scales were subjective.

So, for instance, one girl might consider you a something, and another a different kind of something. Anyway, thanks to the new tech, they will both start considering you much more physically attractive no matter how physically attractive they would have had considered you without the aura.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - mat422 - 11-09-2016

Posh if you're pulling this stuff from where I think you are just stop. That place is full of self-loathing individuals who see the world as a far too black and white place. It would benefit you to not continue to fill your head with their toxic beliefs.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - CatMan - 11-09-2016

Amen guys, I mean I'm still a virgin but I'm positive I'm a "6" minimum, conservatively. My issues have been mindset, fear etc. mental stuff, not physical, which means a lot less to women anyway. But once I finish cutting weight and get more jacked and defined I'll have that going anyway for myself. And indirectly, for them to increase their attraction too. Maybe I'll be a firm "7" by then in my book. But all of this rating stuff is subjective. I know guys who think girls I think are insanely hot are totally not hot at all to them and they wouldn't even get a "twitch" for, lmao.

This stuff is next to meaningless and just sets you up for bad limiting beliefs. This is usually some PUA product primer sales text/presentation to destroy your confidence and belief in yourself, to believe you are inferior and need to "make up" for something to get women and make them seem out of your grasp. Or it's from those jaded MGTOW neckbeard weirdos "women only care about looks/status/money". Please, *I* know for a fact how wrong that nonsense is because I'm living it...

All of this is coming from a very dark place of limiting beliefs and scarcity. A dark path I myself once walked at times.

Please consult your doctor and ask if long term E2 or long term ASC 5G may be right for you.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Aventus45 - 11-09-2016

(11-09-2016, 02:20 PM)mat422 Wrote: Posh if you're pulling this stuff from where I think you are just stop. That place is full of self-loathing individuals who see the world as a far too black and white place. It would benefit you to not continue to fill your head with their toxic beliefs.
r/redpill I assume.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - bits - 11-09-2016

Posh

Do yourself a favor and avoid the mgtow-like sites. My younger brother was heading down the same path with his hatred of women because he thought he had to be a model and he's below-average especially compared to my older brother who used to model professionally.

Extremely good looking guys have it easier in some ways but harder in others, but the thing those mgtow guys don't get is that women really only have 3 standards: have a penis, be fun, be trusted. In terms of looks, whatever you can control should be controlled. Alpha 360 is right about hygiene. Women aren't going to judge you if you don't have the golden ratio of shoulders to waist or if you don't have a perfectly square jaw. But they will judge you if you have a neckbeard and bad breath.

In the case of my brother he went from hating women and talking like Elliot Rodger to saying girls are just fun and silly in a span of about 6 months. How?

1. I "drugged" him with l-theanine and ashwagandha to control his social anxiety
2. forced him to get a job as a waiter to socialize and spend time around girls, all his time was with 3 of his guy friends
3. gave him x22 by hax pheromones to force him to be more social

surprise surprise, just spending time around girls and socializing was all he needed.

Most of the mgtow side of the manosphere are guys who failed with the "red pill"/pua side and it's not surprising they failed. Most PUAs are frauds and most redpill guys can only get girls if they go to foreign countries with poor living standards because women will tolerate anything for a better life.

The problem is these guys take flawed pua and redpill concepts like "you have to angry/hateful towards women" or "be a cocky asshole and lift" and then when that fails it mixes with the resentment and gives them even more flawed beliefs.

I'm not saying looks don't matter or they don't help, but you have to understand where this language of "incel" and "normie" comes from - shut ins who isolate themselves in their room for days on end and don't like interacting with the world. If you want to join them then fine go join them but if you're willing to step outside for a minute you'll see plenty of guys who fit under "genetic trash" with women. The only difference is they bother to leave the house.

RTBoss recently posted about reflecting back on his missed opportunities and his advice was simply 1) get a job or do activities where you're around women 2) don't be afraid to pull the trigger. That's what holds back 99% of these mgtow/redpill types. If you look at their own language to define "incel" and "genetic trash" - half of them have to do more with behavior and social experience rather than looks.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Illumi - 11-09-2016

Question for Shannon. Do i need a break if i were to switch back to V2.4? I dont mind not having a clean slate, i just want to avoid unneccisary reisitance.

RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Benjamin - 11-09-2016

Ahh Posh, where do you find all this crap. All it's going to do is fuck with your head and mess you up. I read red pill every day almost for a long time and all it did was increase my own anger and my issues.

Sometime on WM and even more on E2 i've totally lost interest in it and i'm doing much better from it.

I have a feeling that you may not actually have much experience but you're just using this red pill stuff to rationalize your own issues.

I'm not trying to be an asshole, Bits post was awesome too. Just trying to point out that despite what the people on those sites will say it will just cause you more issues.