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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - rayrocanaldo - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 10:32 AM)maxx55 Wrote:
(08-19-2016, 08:46 AM)rayrocanaldo Wrote: There is two things I dislike about DMSI. It's the goal phrasing for getting sex & the gender neutral thing ( towards every person of the gender I am attracted to thing ).

The original Aura Of Sexiness could already be used by anybody of any sexual orientation. It was already gender neutral. It said on the website : " This title can be used by either gender, and can be used successfully by anyone of any sexual orientation. " AOS was already gender neutral. No need to make it gender neutral, the thing is gender neutral already. I think it makes the sub less effective cause The original AOS was effective as **** without it. You can check the testimonial section for testimonials of AOS.

Next is the goal phrasing. You can get the sex indirectly by working on the aura. Remember how frenchmagnet got sex with 70% of the beautiful women he knew in a group. The goal phrasing should be about building the hottest, sexiest & most alluring aura of irresistible sexiness possible not on getting sex. I think focusing on trying to get sex, makes it less effective. Anyways thats my 2 cent. What do you guys think.

If at any point Shannon thinks a focus on the aura would yield better and more blatant results then by all means he should change the goal of the program and start over again.

I just think 2.3 and 2.4 will probably show whether the goal has the right aim or not.

I think he should focus on the aura. Developing the aura is what this program is all about.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - apollolux - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 11:03 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ ... ]that logic cookie. Mmmmm, that sh*t tastes good, don't it?

DAT SALT THO.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 12:05 PM)apollolux Wrote:
(08-19-2016, 11:03 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: [ ... ]that logic cookie. Mmmmm, that sh*t tastes good, don't it?

DAT SALT THO.

You don't load a logic cookie with sugar. That's what's wrong with this society in the first place.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - K-Train - 08-19-2016

Chaosvrgn you were making good points bruh, even without the "logic cookie" stuff and the "nagging wife" thing. RTBoss, you're right, Chaosvrgn isn't a valid tester but then again...neither is Shannon because Shannon has continued to use BAMM 2.0 all this time.

Now I will say that from a scientific standpoint the results of a "valid tester" will be favored over that of an "invalid tester" such as Chaosvrgn and Shannon however both individuals got results and their data is useful either way.

Come on guys, let's not tear each other apart here unnecessarily. Chaosvrgn I know you only have two gears, 0 and 100, but...can you make a 99? Please? Tongue


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - 4Kingdoms - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 11:07 AM)RTBoss Wrote:
(08-19-2016, 11:03 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: You're right. I'm not a "valid tester."

Thanks.

Valid/Invalid... does it really matter? Most valid testers got ZERO results.

Chaosvrgn was an "invalid" tester and he got results almost each and every time he ran each version. I want to know... why?? I know Chaos will say it's because he made the move when he saw the iois.

I never had the "dragon breath". I didn't have the hunger. I didn't see women's skin change from pale white to pink/red. Once I knew what to look for... nada. I'm a "valid" tester. So is Swisston. Swisston knows what to look for, I asked him and he gave all the right answers!!

Do I need more healing? 31 days of OGSF 4g, 5 days of Overcoming Fear 5g, 32 days of OGSF 5g, 42 days of E2, and 31 days of DMSI v2.2.

After reading how v2.2 helped guys heal even when they didn't feel they needed healing, I still believe v2.4 should be made with healing.

Shannon, you should sell them separately and give a discount if you purchase them as a set.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - chaosvrgn - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 12:52 PM)K-Train Wrote: Chaosvrgn you were making good points bruh, even without the "logic cookie" stuff and the "nagging wife" thing. RTBoss, you're right, Chaosvrgn isn't a valid tester but then again...neither is Shannon because Shannon has continued to use BAMM 2.0 all this time.

Now I will say that from a scientific standpoint the results of a "valid tester" will be favored over that of an "invalid tester" such as Chaosvrgn and Shannon however both individuals got results and their data is useful either way.

Come on guys, let's not tear each other apart here unnecessarily. Chaosvrgn I know you only have two gears, 0 and 100, but...can you make a 99? Please? Tongue

Not in this situation. Here's why:

I understand why Shannon developed the concept of a "valid tester" (which, mind you, didn't exist when were all running v1). I was a professional marketing analyst for ten years -- analytics and the scientific method was my life. So, if Shannon comes along and says: "chaos, I cannot include your data in the aggregate because the results are tainted," I'll perfectly understand.

That's not what happened here. THIS is what happened:

RTBoss: v1 wasn't THAT good.
chaosvrgn: I disagree, I thought it was great. And it was very effective.
RTBoss: You don't even have the right to voice your opinion because you aren't classified as a valid tester. Your experiences are irrelevant. They mean nothing.
chaosvrgn: Um. Well, even if I'm not "valid" -- as if that makes my experiences untrue -- the journals support my statement.
RTBoss: VALID TESTER! I'M A VALID TESTER!!!!
chaosvrgn: Your testing status doesn't... change the facts...
RTBoss: LOOK AT MY VALID TESTER BADGE! You will never get this, you will never get this, LALALALA!!!!

I'm cool with Shannon not being able to use my experiences in the same manner as the valid testers. And RTBoss could've simply said: "People, take note -- chaos' results are tainted," I would've agreed and linked to my journal when I stated that over and over.

However, when you tell me that I don't have the right to speak because I'm not part of some special class, you're going to get my fist down your throat.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Illumi - 08-19-2016

So v2.3 coming out sometime today ya?!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Illumi - 08-19-2016

You guys and your egos smh


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - 4Kingdoms - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 01:07 PM)chaosvrgn Wrote: However, when you tell me that I don't have the right to speak because I'm not part of some special class, you're going to get my fist down your throat.

http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5838-post-127567.html#pid127567
(08-19-2016, 10:36 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: As a hardcore introvert, sometimes I just wanna go out and feel invisible and do my thing. v1 won't allow that. At all.

After reading about your past, I believe you earned six figures?? And how outspoken you are on this forum. I seriously doubt you are a hardcore introvert!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - K-Train - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 01:07 PM)Kurohawk Wrote: So v2.3 coming out sometime today ya?!!

I hope so!

Chaosvrgn Wrote:Not in this situation. Here's why:

I understand why Shannon developed the concept of a "valid tester" (which, mind you, didn't exist when were all running v1). I was a professional marketing analyst for ten years -- analytics and the scientific method was my life. So, if Shannon comes along and says: "chaos, I cannot include your data in the aggregate because the results are tainted," I'll perfectly understand.

That's not what happened here. THIS is what happened:

RTBoss: v1 wasn't THAT good.
chaosvrgn: I disagree, I thought it was great. And it was very effective.
RTBoss: You don't even have the right to voice your opinion because you aren't classified as a valid tester. Your experiences are irrelevant. They mean nothing.
chaosvrgn: Um. Well, even if I'm not "valid" -- as if that makes my experiences untrue -- the journals support my statement.
RTBoss: VALID TESTER! I'M A VALID TESTER!!!!
chaosvrgn: Your testing status doesn't... change the facts...
RTBoss: LOOK AT MY VALID TESTER BADGE! You will never get this, you will never get this, LALALALA!!!!

I'm cool with Shannon not being able to use my experiences in the same manner as the valid testers. And RTBoss could've simply said: "People, take note -- chaos' results are tainted," I would've agreed and linked to my journal when I stated that over and over.

However, when you tell me that I don't have the right to speak because I'm not part of some special class, you're going to get my fist down your throat.

Interesting, I didn't really think of it this way. Well, I believe that would be a checkmate good sir.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Sickologist - 08-19-2016

@ K-Train, it's already been lurking beneath the surface for some time. It won't end here either, which s a good thing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - Shawn - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 10:04 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Theoretically, a "Natural Seduction for Everyone," would lack these extra instructions and would rely completely on the autopilot and state-shifting tech. As we've seen with v2.1 and v2.2, the autopilot tech doesn't seem to be kicking in for inexperienced men -- hence the whole, "I don't know what to do with these IOIs" issue.

Regarding this I can tell that I also couldn't do anything with the attraction on NSFM. But the IOI's were much more subtle there. A look here, a look there, some smile there. No butt displays or something like that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - K-Train - 08-19-2016

(08-19-2016, 01:24 PM)Sickologist Wrote: @ K-Train, it's already been lurking beneath the surface for some time. It won't end here either, which s a good thing.

Really? Shit, I must have been blind to it cause when I seen Chaos' post I was like daaaaaamn, well this escalated quickly!

Also quick report: still getting residual hits from V2.2 even after stopping over a week ago. The healing module allowed me to do something I've never done: go back into a store and slip a chick my number. That's something I almost never do. In fact, I'd say its been about 4 years since the last time I did that. So add +1 to the people who love the healing module.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion - rayrocanaldo - 08-19-2016

I think I'll resort to using the original DAOS 4G until I see everyone on the forum getting mad results with the new DMSI & until it includes things like multiple auras of energy & a huge focus on developing the hottest, sexiest, most irresistible, most beautiful & most alluring aura possible.