dmsi so far so good.... (Afzal/Dzemoos run)

[Sickologist]

Haha, says the guy who complained about not getting enough likes and that rowdy comments from guys like me and Dzemoo got too many likes. Don't try to deny it, my memory is legendary.

I'm posting my views and experiences to make the sub better, I don't give a shit if you or anyone else like it. Now you're trying to construct a conflict of simple labels that can be interpreted both positive and negative.

Seriously 360 (I refuse to add alpha), since that Dano character, you're the most ill informed, pretentious member on this page.

Sure, give me all sorts of warnings, I'm just trying to help the guy, but tough love is an underappriciated art.

[bits]

Edit: i decided to leave bye

Damn well best of luck to you dzemoo but I hope you change your mind, your journals have been very helpful not only since you've ran many programs but have given very useful tips on how you're able to get great by the various ways you've used them.

Thanks for everything you've posted here

[Blink]

Edit: i decided to leave bye

Damn well best of luck to you dzemoo but I hope you change your mind, your journals have been very helpful not only since you've ran many programs but have given very useful tips on how you're able to get great by the various ways you've used them.

Thanks for everything you've posted here

I think he meant leaving the discussion.

[JackOfHearts]

Haha, says the guy who complained about not getting enough likes and that rowdy comments from guys like me and Dzemoo got too many likes. Don't try to deny it, my memory is legendary.

I'm posting my views and experiences to make the sub better, I don't give a shit if you or anyone else like it. Now you're trying to construct a conflict of simple labels that can be interpreted both positive and negative.

Seriously 360 (I refuse to add alpha), since that Dano character, you're the most ill informed, pretentious member on this page.

Sure, give me all sorts of warnings, I'm just trying to help thecompletly guy, but tough love is an underappriciated art.

I'm not usually the one trying to deny things here. But well you should quote me still because I didn't say it like that and the way you are saying it now sounds completely different.

The reason I said that was because it was getting exaggerated that so much people here was liking someone who was at best very confused. And I use Shannon phrasing here because he is the only one you listen to. I wanted to be sure that people knew that he wasn't following AM principles.

I'm not trying to create a conflict with my last post. I'm just showing how ridiculous the rules you have created are. Things like don't teach me, don't tell me what to do, don't call me that, don't do that. There are so ridiculous that you can't even respect them yourself.
You are constantly breaking the rules you are setting for others without seeing it.

So much of sugarcoating you are doing for yourself with those rules. For someone who has said he doesn't like sugarcoating. You are creating those rules because you want to hide from something it seems, making yourself untouchable, "you don't know me so don't tell me that" Maybe we don't know you but who knows you really, with that kind of rules no one can tell you anything. People are going to keep tell you things whether you like it or not, that's not something you can control.

Dzeemo has attracted a lot of fame here it's undeniable, but we should know that he payed a big sacrifice in order to get it. I not sure everyone who liked his post want to do the same thing as he did. As it is like throwing the AM subliminal to the trash.

Now he is free to do as he likes, you don't like sugarcoating, so I tell exactly how things are. And don't tell it's not like that because he said it himself a lot of time already.

Now what I'm doing here is simple I'm just letting you know what he did that's all. No sugarcoating. I'm not going to call a dog a cat.

[Sickologist]

[AriGold]

Sicko, I'm not sure how this is helping the discussion or the community...

[JackOfHearts]

It's not a discussion anymore anyway. They will keep ignoring everything like nothing happened. They will ignore Shannon advice too. I'm done here.

[Benjamin]

Well I spose it's up to you if you want to rationalize all this as "I'm just speaking my mind" when you're abusing and attacking people and you have been warned. And hiding behind 'i'm trying to help them".

Stuff like this..

Seriously 360 (I refuse to add alpha), since that Dano character, you're the most ill informed, pretentious member on this page.

Isn't helping anyone. And that's just one little example and AFTER being warned.

Sure, give me all sorts of warnings, I'm just trying to help the guy, but tough love is an underappriciated art.

I assume that's directed at me. And yes I can do that and give a warning on your account next time that suspends posting privileges for a while at this rate.

[Sickologist]

Ben, read post 145 in this thread and that's what set me off. I'm tired of that kind of crap. Now that's a personal attack and abusing another member. But it's not as blunt as my posts, it's some attemot to hide the attacks behind saying stuff like "I'm not attacking you". Yeah, he was.

I don't attack people on their threads and I'm not hiding behind anything. I state my opinion, but at the same time I don't tell them their way is wrong. They're free too.

I know you're a straight-shooter Ben so I'm asking this, would you prefer me sitting idle while some guys try to shame me and Dzemoo, misinterpret what we're discussing, hold grudges against us, throwing false accusations and labels our way

or

Wouldn't you stick up for yourself too?

[JackOfHearts]

The difference is that I explained the reasoning behind, for example I said Dzeemo behave like a women there a reasoning behind it, it's explained why.
A man is constant in his behavior, he doesn't change his idea like a woman who change thought every time she feels like it.
On the other hand you said a lot of guys here behave like crab, which is another way to tell that someone behave like a woman. But here you don't provide anything to back up your words. There is nothing behind it.

What you are doing can be seen as an attack because you explain nothing, you just criticize me but there is nothing to back you up. That's not constructive criticism.

Also what you are saying on my pseudo here is disrespectful, that's an attack because there no helping behind this. Then you call it though love, that's simply hate to me. You don't like me and you made it very obvious.

You are also calling me pretentious but as far I can tell there is no reasoning to back you up either. I'm ready to be called pretentious if it is really the case. But you have to show me where otherwise that's just another criticism which can be considered as an attack.

There is more to say about your behavior but I will stop there. You are not here to learn from others anyway and you made it very clear. That's what I would call pretentious by the way because you think you can't learn from us but that your experience will benefit us.

Here again I'm explaining you why I use the word I'm using, that's called constructive criticism. Now you can see that as an attack if you want, but that's your opinion.

[Illumi]

You guys still going on about that? Really?

[Shannon]

Dzemoo is a very forward person, and his personality type says what it thinks. He is (or maybe was) in a time of transition from one point to another because of the healing modules in DMSI etc. That's why he was changing his point of view so much. Saying he changes like a woman is an attack on him for it. Not everyone deals with their experiences the same way. My issue was that he was making statements that shifted as frequently as from day to day (toward the end) and made them as statements of fact, when they were expressions of his confusion based on his inner changes. When you make a massive change, there is going to be a period of re-calibration and confusion. I just didn't want people blindly taking what he said as fact (because he frequently sated it as fact) when it was more and more frequently confused opinion.

But that just means he's changing and healing and growing. We can't attack him for that. You guys remember the experience of doing AM for the first time, how confusing it was and how sometimes you felt lost until you figured out the new way of doing things.

[Cozy]

Of course you heal when you've banged enough women. I just wrote about that on Chaos' thread. When you've banged enough women you will understand the following:

- They're just girls
- They love cock
- They want you
- Sex is fun, it can also be more
- Sex is the only way to really understand where you are and where you want to be
- You'll understand why women flake, asd, lmr etc
- Women are crazy
- You are more important to her than she is to you
- All idealistic/fantasy bs is washed away, you understand the game

There is no other method to acheive this.

I agree with this 100%, but only if you’re not running game. Think about it, as soon as you start being yourself , you lose that validation. Anyone can go out there and act their way to pussy, all that requires is the right amount of arrogance and the will to do so, but if you can get pussy by being yourself? Ohh shit. Then you’re really the man.

[JackOfHearts]

Sorry for my part then. I wasn't considering that as an attack. Won't happen again.