01-06-2019, 09:03 AM
(01-05-2019, 06:06 PM)firsthelix Wrote:(01-02-2019, 06:53 AM)Shannon Wrote:(01-02-2019, 06:07 AM)firsthelix Wrote:(12-20-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:(12-19-2018, 02:35 PM)josh84 Wrote: Thanks shannon, i will try changing the volume on vlc media player on the next cycle, tonight is the last night of trickling stream hybrid and will drop vlc media player volume to 75%. After the 2 day break will move onto ocean surf hybrid and will try between 50 and 75% and see if the lower volumes will work better for me.
Just seeing that 12 of 15 volume is recommended and others having volume up loud is why i had been doing it that way but will decrease volume for the cycles from now on and see how it goes.
Would 10% decrease be equal to one notch on a phone?
A volume of 12 is recommended for Jake. Not for everyone. There is a high correlation between a volume of 10-12-13-14-15 for Beast, but I haven't tested DMSI, etc. I am recommending 12/15 to Jake because it is known across several different programs (Beast, MIR, ARA, USLM, SE, DNWS, GPR) to be the sweet spot for execution from resistant personalities when you are using a cell phone.
You will have to use a volume meter to know what the equivalent volume is for VLC, and you have to take into account volume at the source (speaker) and distance from speaker to ear. Even that isn't perfect because some phones have speakers positioned at different distances from their microphones, which may translate into a different volume than 12.
Interesting! How does that translate for iPhone users with no volume indication?
Reason #374 not to use Apple products? The only thing you can do at that point is to use an app like FrequenSee and estimate volume based on dB, but even that is not ideal because the speaker's proximity to the microphone is different on all phones.
Thanks for your reply!
Only lately did my impression increase that volume levels are that crucial. If that is the case, you might wanna be interested to make your products as effective for either phone device, meaning there should be instructions how to achieve the same level of effectiveness for any kind of phones. iPhone is a reality, whether you like it or not and a big part of your "market" uses Apple products in one way or another. With other words, you can't provide everybody using iPhones switching to Android just because your products can't be made to work as effective as on Androids.
Just my 2 cents...
Volume affects the results. It is not a simple interaction, however, and I had not mentioned any specific volume previously because
A) I was seeking a way to auto-adjust the volumetric effects internally within the mind (apparently not possible for some reason) and
B) I knew that people would jump on it as being more than it is.
As it stands, I cannot hope to test my programs on every make and model of phone, or influence manufacturers to stop making stupid decisions about how they do their software or hardware. So instructions for every make and model of phone or playback device is just not reasonable.
As it stands, any loss of effectiveness on an iPhone is Apple's doing, not mine, since theoretically (given their pedigree) Apple phones should be providing superior hardware for audio playback. I don't know if that is the case since Jobs died, but I do know that Apple products are typically designed to force a situation where simplicity and aesthetics outweighs choice in execution and common sense decisions of design, like showing you how many ticks you have on the volume.
I create subliminals. I don't create iphones or OS-X or Android builds. If your phone can't play my subliminals effectively as a result, it is neither my fault nor my concern. You are responsible for the hardware you play it on, and if you want to play it on a phone designed to be trendy instead of functional, then you will have to deal with that or play it on something else. Or, perhaps you can do some research and find out how many "clicks" that phone has.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!