I took a lot of time to make this comment. Because I think maybe I can lend something to this thread. So I wanted to concentrate and write something hopefully of value.
I agree with a lot of what AriGold is saying.
AM, isn't about women, it's exactly the OPPOSITE of women. As, most guys are too obsessed with women to begin with, that's their problem. AM gets you to self mastery, self validation, and no more chasing women for sex and validation for your identity. I can speak as an authority on this as I've been chasing women for validation for my identity my whole life. Up until subs, it was probably one of the biggest reasons for my failures with girls. You know, the whole "getting the hot girl so people will be impressed, and so you will be fulfilled, because alone you aren't enough" garbage thinking so many men have. That's the garbage AM removes. So, by DESIGN, it isn't supposed to be about women. Even what's in there to deal with women seems superflous to the AM goal and waters down the program a bit. But, obviously, that was no doubt put in there due to pressure from guys complaining about not getting women, on a program designed to focus on YOU...and NOT women. A bit funny when you think about it...but anyway. So I think Shannon decided to placate a bit and put in some stuff there, but make it purely in the background and mostly near the end of the program, after the main programming has been done. And focusing on the main goal being self mastery/self validation, which when internalised, ends up giving you attraction indirectly anyway.
And Dzemoo, you seem to have the belief that women can be the only ones who have options. When a man develops himself, he becomes attractive and "has options" too. That isn't only women who have that. It's just easier for them to, because men are visual creatures and if a girl is half-cute, and has a decent bodyfat% below 20%, and since by nature the men approach the women so she will be approached often if she meets that criteria, she can have lots of options. But, since women judge men based off internal characteristics more than attractiveness (not to say they don't judge attraction, obviously it just seems to be lower priority), and because even if they're into a guy they typically will NOT make the first move, it means a man needs to develop himself in order to "have options". I've seen tons of guys have options with cute girls. I don't, yet, but I've seen it often enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt it can go both ways, guys can have options too. So, don't beat yourself up and think they're all ethereal. Trust me, it's better to be a guy, at least we can increase our value at ANY time. Women, if they aren't attractive, they have little to increase their value with sadly. Moreover, even if they ARE attractive, their attraction still has a time window of effectiveness, closing a little every year past the middle of puberty or so, until she's virtually ignored by the massive majority of males. So, overall, it isn't all that being in their position, they peak high and early and quickly falloff if they peak at ALL. Whereas we're on much more solid, stable ground overtime on a solidly upward curve, if starting lower and slower.
I will say also, that porn and masturbation have been shown to promote this thought of pedestalising and thinking women are ethereal and out of reach and being prone to external validation. I don't know how it happens, maybe because both are done virtually either through a screen or by fantasising. So, since you never really PHYSICALLY interact with women in these scenarios, maybe your subconscious thinks of them as unable to be reached or not real which creates this kind of belief system. I don't know, I'm not an expert on the subconscious...but thankfully...I know someone who is lol
...I just know that as soon as I've cut out both of those addictions, things have started to change. Which falls in line with what the research and studies from Dr. Wilson, and others quitting both addictions have shown. And, they're the only two variables that have been changed since finishing SM3.
These subs are the best thing going. AM6 for me got rid of my terrible external validation obsession and chasing girls so much. Now it's amazing how much of a change I have, and how little they impact my life. Not only do they impact my life little compared to before, but I'm HAPPY too. It's easy to be single, but to be HAPPY and single is amazing, I've never had this. Before subs, I lusted after them and thought they were amazing and based my identity off of them and their opinion of me and my worth as a man was tied to that. And wanted options, until I realised that could also just be a sign of scarcity mentality and fear of losing them and so if I had tons around, then it wouldn't matter or something. Also, a sign of external validation, wanting to be the guy with all the chicks which would impress people and other girls, and myself. Sounds like external validation to me, so no go. I quickly realised that I don't want "options", I ultimately want "quality". I don't need a harem or options at all to validate me now either. I can be happy and fulfilled alone, or happy and fulfilled dating an epic girl. Either way, I'm good now. I've never been able to say that before.
I would say, maybe another run of AM6 can fix this thinking for you. I got it done in one round of AM6, but yet I still seem to have fears about girls, no doubt due to past experiences. So, Shannon recommended OF 5G to address this, and said it's the reason SM3 failed me. I'm planning to do 4,000 hours of OF 5G, before returning to AM6 and another big 3,600 hour run, and maybe even trying a magnet again for 3,600 hours after all of my development work I've done. I hope to be ready to be able to get serious benefit out of it then. My last sticking point is fear it seems, as I've dealt with the external validation thing already. So, I'm very excited to see what the future brings as I continue my transformation, I'm getting closer to the man I wanted to be when I started in Sept. '14! It seems thankfully I no longer have external validation problems with girls. And, if ***I*** can get rid of that, anybody can
. After that magnet run if I do it, I'll probably be where I dreamed of being when I started subs, or maybe even beyond!
We're all gonna make it, friend!
I agree with a lot of what AriGold is saying.
AM, isn't about women, it's exactly the OPPOSITE of women. As, most guys are too obsessed with women to begin with, that's their problem. AM gets you to self mastery, self validation, and no more chasing women for sex and validation for your identity. I can speak as an authority on this as I've been chasing women for validation for my identity my whole life. Up until subs, it was probably one of the biggest reasons for my failures with girls. You know, the whole "getting the hot girl so people will be impressed, and so you will be fulfilled, because alone you aren't enough" garbage thinking so many men have. That's the garbage AM removes. So, by DESIGN, it isn't supposed to be about women. Even what's in there to deal with women seems superflous to the AM goal and waters down the program a bit. But, obviously, that was no doubt put in there due to pressure from guys complaining about not getting women, on a program designed to focus on YOU...and NOT women. A bit funny when you think about it...but anyway. So I think Shannon decided to placate a bit and put in some stuff there, but make it purely in the background and mostly near the end of the program, after the main programming has been done. And focusing on the main goal being self mastery/self validation, which when internalised, ends up giving you attraction indirectly anyway.
And Dzemoo, you seem to have the belief that women can be the only ones who have options. When a man develops himself, he becomes attractive and "has options" too. That isn't only women who have that. It's just easier for them to, because men are visual creatures and if a girl is half-cute, and has a decent bodyfat% below 20%, and since by nature the men approach the women so she will be approached often if she meets that criteria, she can have lots of options. But, since women judge men based off internal characteristics more than attractiveness (not to say they don't judge attraction, obviously it just seems to be lower priority), and because even if they're into a guy they typically will NOT make the first move, it means a man needs to develop himself in order to "have options". I've seen tons of guys have options with cute girls. I don't, yet, but I've seen it often enough to know beyond a shadow of a doubt it can go both ways, guys can have options too. So, don't beat yourself up and think they're all ethereal. Trust me, it's better to be a guy, at least we can increase our value at ANY time. Women, if they aren't attractive, they have little to increase their value with sadly. Moreover, even if they ARE attractive, their attraction still has a time window of effectiveness, closing a little every year past the middle of puberty or so, until she's virtually ignored by the massive majority of males. So, overall, it isn't all that being in their position, they peak high and early and quickly falloff if they peak at ALL. Whereas we're on much more solid, stable ground overtime on a solidly upward curve, if starting lower and slower.
I will say also, that porn and masturbation have been shown to promote this thought of pedestalising and thinking women are ethereal and out of reach and being prone to external validation. I don't know how it happens, maybe because both are done virtually either through a screen or by fantasising. So, since you never really PHYSICALLY interact with women in these scenarios, maybe your subconscious thinks of them as unable to be reached or not real which creates this kind of belief system. I don't know, I'm not an expert on the subconscious...but thankfully...I know someone who is lol
...I just know that as soon as I've cut out both of those addictions, things have started to change. Which falls in line with what the research and studies from Dr. Wilson, and others quitting both addictions have shown. And, they're the only two variables that have been changed since finishing SM3. These subs are the best thing going. AM6 for me got rid of my terrible external validation obsession and chasing girls so much. Now it's amazing how much of a change I have, and how little they impact my life. Not only do they impact my life little compared to before, but I'm HAPPY too. It's easy to be single, but to be HAPPY and single is amazing, I've never had this. Before subs, I lusted after them and thought they were amazing and based my identity off of them and their opinion of me and my worth as a man was tied to that. And wanted options, until I realised that could also just be a sign of scarcity mentality and fear of losing them and so if I had tons around, then it wouldn't matter or something. Also, a sign of external validation, wanting to be the guy with all the chicks which would impress people and other girls, and myself. Sounds like external validation to me, so no go. I quickly realised that I don't want "options", I ultimately want "quality". I don't need a harem or options at all to validate me now either. I can be happy and fulfilled alone, or happy and fulfilled dating an epic girl. Either way, I'm good now. I've never been able to say that before.
I would say, maybe another run of AM6 can fix this thinking for you. I got it done in one round of AM6, but yet I still seem to have fears about girls, no doubt due to past experiences. So, Shannon recommended OF 5G to address this, and said it's the reason SM3 failed me. I'm planning to do 4,000 hours of OF 5G, before returning to AM6 and another big 3,600 hour run, and maybe even trying a magnet again for 3,600 hours after all of my development work I've done. I hope to be ready to be able to get serious benefit out of it then. My last sticking point is fear it seems, as I've dealt with the external validation thing already. So, I'm very excited to see what the future brings as I continue my transformation, I'm getting closer to the man I wanted to be when I started in Sept. '14! It seems thankfully I no longer have external validation problems with girls. And, if ***I*** can get rid of that, anybody can
. After that magnet run if I do it, I'll probably be where I dreamed of being when I started subs, or maybe even beyond!We're all gonna make it, friend!
