Dzemoo said...
I have had women ranging from downright ugly to stunningly beautiful. I've dated them all, had sex with them all, and I have photographed the hot ones professionally for a time. I see a HUGE difference.
7-8 get hit on more because guys are too scared of the 9-10. This leaves the 9's and 10's to the real alphas (extremely rare), the extremely wealthy, the extremely famous, the extremely powerful and the real assholes. And I have seen that in many cases, wealth, fame and power lead to asshole.
The factor of what she looks like is only one of many that need to be considered in what a woman is and why, and I did oversimplify that point. I wasn't trying to write a book, just get that aspect across.
To really know the value of any given female, you must know her. And to know her, you have to spend time with her, observe her and talk with her. I have met some 4's who were so full of themselves and thought they were all that and I have met a 10 who was very balanced for ego and humility, very intelligent, well educated, wise, strong, and self capable entirely independent of her stunning looks. (Just one, so far.) That a woman can be arrogant and egotistical even looking physically unattractive, or a quality woman even looking like a goddess, is not the question. The point I am trying to make is that you should broaden your horizons some and consider looking outside the box as to what your options are and what value they have and why. Maybe you do that already; I can't know that. But it's what I'm trying to say. Don't follow the herd. Get to know her, and make your decisions based on what value she REALLY has, not just what value she has as a trophy or arm candy.
You have the choice of doing your own thing, or following the advice of someone else. If you follow the advice of someone else and it is bad advice - and I'm not saying Julien's advice is good or bad here - then you run the risk of making a mistake if it is bad advice.
You have never met a woman who has proven your PUA experience wrong because you are only attracting women who fit your belief system. They are the only women who match your concept of reality and therefore they are what you attract because they are what you are limiting yourself to believing is true, and like attracts like.
When I was younger, I attracted, time and time again, females who were using me, cheating on me, lying to me, stabbing in the back, abusing me emotionally, etc. I must have had 12+ in a row do that same pattern of behavior. And I was one day talking to someone about how I was tired of being treated that way by women, and she said something to me that shocked me to my core. She said, "We're not all like that. That's your fault."
That was my slap in the face. How could it be my fault? I was innocent! I was being mistreated! I was being cheated on, lied to, abused! How could hat possibly be my fault?
It took me 2 years to really understand that what she had said was true. Until the time when I finally "broke" and refused to be treated that way anymore - or, put another way, until the time I finally stopped insisting on the past and realized that I had too much value to allow myself to be treated that way anymore - I attracted women who did that in response to me. Why? Because that was what I had been taught women were supposed to do. That was my understanding based on how my mother taught me to treat women, and the women I attracted based on that teaching, along with my fears and my choices along those lines.
Once I finally was hurt enough to move out of the rut I was in, and overcome the fears and limiting beliefs that kept me there, I have never since attracted such a woman. What changed? I changed. My beliefs. My self respect. My sense of self worth. My willingness to accept poor treatment. My level of need for someone else to fulfill me or take care of me.
All those women who are of the type who mistreated me are still out there, but I don't encounter them. I encounter women who now match my current beliefs and "vibe" if you will. They now match me, and they are attracted to me as a result. Women who are genuine, kind, caring, loving, thoughtful, considerate, intelligent, worthwhile, sexual, and have qualities like faithfulness, honesty and integrity.
And the only thing that changed was me.
The effect is like a radio. When you have a radio tuned to 99.4 FM, and the only thing they play on 99.4 FM is rap, don't get mad at the radio or expect that all channels will have rap just because you don't like rap. And also don't overlook the fact that yes, you can change the channel if you don't like rap!
So once I attune myself to a different set of beliefs and realizations and expectations as to what is true, those inner changes naturally adjust my outer reality to match because now I am acting in a different reality based on what I am attracting based on those beliefs and expectations.
You want to meet good women? All you have to do is become what matches the "channel" of the women you want, and accept nothing less.
I had to laugh at this one. This is a self limiting, fear based belief if I ever saw one. Let's explore this a bit.
First, there is a perfect state of alphaness. It's that state in which you become tranquil. Tranquility happens when you no longer have friction with the environment around you. You no longer have needs or fears concerning the things that touch on or tie into this state. It is a state of self sufficiency that allows you to exist without concerns. You know that all is well, because all needs are being and will be provided for; either you will do it or someone else will, but you know that you can do it if nobody else does (or if you do not allow them to).
Does this eliminate all fear? I don't know. If it does, I'm not there yet. But I can tell you, I have a lot less fear than anyone else I know, with perhaps one or two exceptions - and they are also very alpha in the ways I am describing.
You can only get better with time but you can never master it? I think that's funny. You may not know anyone who has mastered it to whatever degree you consider mastery, or maybe you know someone who has but you can't see it because of this limiting belief, but that does not mean it is not possible. I think this belief is just an excuse to hide from the challenges you face in mastering yourself and therefore your alphaness.
The easiest way to fail at something is to give up, and the easiest way to justify giving up is to convince yourself that "it's not possible".
You may not have realized that when you hold a certain set of core beliefs, that everyone you have prominent in your life will either be a direct result of your beliefs (they are at the same vibrational rate or level of belief, if you will) or you are viewing them through the "lens" of that belief system and it's limits.
Therefore, it is easy to look at your friends and say, "Well, they have the same reality I do!" Of course they do. They're at the same level of belief and they have the same attunement, which in effect puts them on the same "channel" of reality, and experiencing that same "channel" you experience!
That's why it's common for people who use AM and really make the changes to have a drastic shift in the people who they're friends with, and whom they have in their life.
Quote:I think you simplify this a lot, less hot women or fatter women are not less shallow or superficial, i had women who are not that hot and women who are superhot and honestly, i dont see that much of a difference. There is something called cinderella effect the 7-8 get hit on more often than the 9-10 because guys are not that afraid to appraoch them and the most guys think less beautiful women are more humble and better poeple but from my expierence they are not.
I have had women ranging from downright ugly to stunningly beautiful. I've dated them all, had sex with them all, and I have photographed the hot ones professionally for a time. I see a HUGE difference.
7-8 get hit on more because guys are too scared of the 9-10. This leaves the 9's and 10's to the real alphas (extremely rare), the extremely wealthy, the extremely famous, the extremely powerful and the real assholes. And I have seen that in many cases, wealth, fame and power lead to asshole.
The factor of what she looks like is only one of many that need to be considered in what a woman is and why, and I did oversimplify that point. I wasn't trying to write a book, just get that aspect across.
To really know the value of any given female, you must know her. And to know her, you have to spend time with her, observe her and talk with her. I have met some 4's who were so full of themselves and thought they were all that and I have met a 10 who was very balanced for ego and humility, very intelligent, well educated, wise, strong, and self capable entirely independent of her stunning looks. (Just one, so far.) That a woman can be arrogant and egotistical even looking physically unattractive, or a quality woman even looking like a goddess, is not the question. The point I am trying to make is that you should broaden your horizons some and consider looking outside the box as to what your options are and what value they have and why. Maybe you do that already; I can't know that. But it's what I'm trying to say. Don't follow the herd. Get to know her, and make your decisions based on what value she REALLY has, not just what value she has as a trophy or arm candy.
Quote:And just because you dont fear something it doesnt mean you cant take damage by it. Like julien says the moment you lean back and relax and get used to the comfort its the moment you should fear the most. And from my experience its true. You are right i never met a women where pua has proven to be wrong, all i see is that pua rules always apply. And everytime i want to leave it behind and start thinking like you described, i get teached that it isnt like that. I think i will probably marry soon, a women from a strong religious background, probably islamic where the girl has the be virgin untill marriage. Where the girl had to wear a headscarf and wasnt allowed to party and hang out with guys. And where the girl learned from her parents that the man is the boss.
You have the choice of doing your own thing, or following the advice of someone else. If you follow the advice of someone else and it is bad advice - and I'm not saying Julien's advice is good or bad here - then you run the risk of making a mistake if it is bad advice.
You have never met a woman who has proven your PUA experience wrong because you are only attracting women who fit your belief system. They are the only women who match your concept of reality and therefore they are what you attract because they are what you are limiting yourself to believing is true, and like attracts like.
When I was younger, I attracted, time and time again, females who were using me, cheating on me, lying to me, stabbing in the back, abusing me emotionally, etc. I must have had 12+ in a row do that same pattern of behavior. And I was one day talking to someone about how I was tired of being treated that way by women, and she said something to me that shocked me to my core. She said, "We're not all like that. That's your fault."
That was my slap in the face. How could it be my fault? I was innocent! I was being mistreated! I was being cheated on, lied to, abused! How could hat possibly be my fault?
It took me 2 years to really understand that what she had said was true. Until the time when I finally "broke" and refused to be treated that way anymore - or, put another way, until the time I finally stopped insisting on the past and realized that I had too much value to allow myself to be treated that way anymore - I attracted women who did that in response to me. Why? Because that was what I had been taught women were supposed to do. That was my understanding based on how my mother taught me to treat women, and the women I attracted based on that teaching, along with my fears and my choices along those lines.
Once I finally was hurt enough to move out of the rut I was in, and overcome the fears and limiting beliefs that kept me there, I have never since attracted such a woman. What changed? I changed. My beliefs. My self respect. My sense of self worth. My willingness to accept poor treatment. My level of need for someone else to fulfill me or take care of me.
All those women who are of the type who mistreated me are still out there, but I don't encounter them. I encounter women who now match my current beliefs and "vibe" if you will. They now match me, and they are attracted to me as a result. Women who are genuine, kind, caring, loving, thoughtful, considerate, intelligent, worthwhile, sexual, and have qualities like faithfulness, honesty and integrity.
And the only thing that changed was me.
The effect is like a radio. When you have a radio tuned to 99.4 FM, and the only thing they play on 99.4 FM is rap, don't get mad at the radio or expect that all channels will have rap just because you don't like rap. And also don't overlook the fact that yes, you can change the channel if you don't like rap!
So once I attune myself to a different set of beliefs and realizations and expectations as to what is true, those inner changes naturally adjust my outer reality to match because now I am acting in a different reality based on what I am attracting based on those beliefs and expectations.
You want to meet good women? All you have to do is become what matches the "channel" of the women you want, and accept nothing less.
Quote:And shanon there is no perfect state of alphaness where you dont have these issues, you can only get better with time but never master it.
I had to laugh at this one. This is a self limiting, fear based belief if I ever saw one. Let's explore this a bit.
First, there is a perfect state of alphaness. It's that state in which you become tranquil. Tranquility happens when you no longer have friction with the environment around you. You no longer have needs or fears concerning the things that touch on or tie into this state. It is a state of self sufficiency that allows you to exist without concerns. You know that all is well, because all needs are being and will be provided for; either you will do it or someone else will, but you know that you can do it if nobody else does (or if you do not allow them to).
Does this eliminate all fear? I don't know. If it does, I'm not there yet. But I can tell you, I have a lot less fear than anyone else I know, with perhaps one or two exceptions - and they are also very alpha in the ways I am describing.
You can only get better with time but you can never master it? I think that's funny. You may not know anyone who has mastered it to whatever degree you consider mastery, or maybe you know someone who has but you can't see it because of this limiting belief, but that does not mean it is not possible. I think this belief is just an excuse to hide from the challenges you face in mastering yourself and therefore your alphaness.
The easiest way to fail at something is to give up, and the easiest way to justify giving up is to convince yourself that "it's not possible".
Quote:But I agree that it might be that through pua i only attract manipulativ and dishonest women and therefore think that all women are like this, on the other hand i see the same things happening with my friends who are no puas, the only difference is they cant defend themselfs.
But thanks for your detailed answer anyway
You may not have realized that when you hold a certain set of core beliefs, that everyone you have prominent in your life will either be a direct result of your beliefs (they are at the same vibrational rate or level of belief, if you will) or you are viewing them through the "lens" of that belief system and it's limits.
Therefore, it is easy to look at your friends and say, "Well, they have the same reality I do!" Of course they do. They're at the same level of belief and they have the same attunement, which in effect puts them on the same "channel" of reality, and experiencing that same "channel" you experience!
That's why it's common for people who use AM and really make the changes to have a drastic shift in the people who they're friends with, and whom they have in their life.
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The scientist has a question to find an answer for. The pseudo-scientist has an answer to find a question for. ~ "Failure is the path of least persistence." - Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ Logic left. Emotion right. But thinking, straight ahead. ~ Sperate supra omnia in valorem. (The value of trust is above all else.) ~ Meowsomeness!