06-14-2015, 06:38 PM
(06-14-2015, 10:53 AM)CatMan Wrote: Well, if anything SM3 and WM2 are PUA sets, and much more than just that. I rid myself of the PUA interest during AM6. You should run that man, it clears up a lot of this PUA crap once and for all. You realise how small time it is on AM6.
I've spent thousands of dollars on PUA *****. It's all the same, sales letters and sales videos playing off your insecurities and manipulating you, never telling you the REAL story and way to get change and only giving you some vague stuff and half the picture, because they want to keep you as a customer and upsell you and/or keep you buying crap. So there's always some new program or ebook or bootcamp nonsense, and it's all rehashes of either Mysterys stuff or Ross Jeffries stuff, it's always the same. You can tell after doing as many programs as me, you can see there ALL essentially rehashes of those two who were the originators. When the programs failed, I tried personal coaching with many of them and that cost a fortune. PUA is *****, and I thought most of them came off as fake, very low confidence, hugely dependant on bedding women and getting external validation from them, going for party girls who are at clubs and are drunk because they're softer targets. The whole thing felt dehumanised and very scummy. None of it worked for me. I just got a refund for DSP from Vin DiCarlo, and did the same for Pandora's Box. I'm getting a refund for Speed Seduction and the other course from Ross Jeffries too. All of this crap...it's all nonsense that doesn't work in the real world. "Normal" people don't need to run canned lines or patterns or stories or other ***** on eachother...it was tough to learn and seemed incredibly overcomplicated and never worked anyway. It seemed very fake and orchestrated, and that's only WHEN I could actually remember the big complicated things to do.
So I finally exhausted every avenue with PUA, and before that, the "be yourself" mantra left me dysfunctional already as being myself WAS the problem but I had no idea what was driving women away from me in droves. I didn't know what to do after the PUA thing finally died out in my mind and I realised it's *****. I tried mones, I think I got a few nibbles of success finally, and now I'm trying subs. I started with subs using ASC 5G, moved to AM6, now I'm onto SM3. I can say there have been some changes, but so far still to be honest, girls and sex have evaded me, the jury is out on whether this path will prove to work for me. I'm only on stage 2, next week I start stage 3 where the sexual attraction is due to start, so it's early yet. But at least there have been a few positive changes otherwise, which is more than I can say with PUA.
The only thing PUA crap changed is my bank balance...
I was the same way, but never did a boot camp, but I have been through it all, just rehashed stuff. Once I found out who David DeAngelo actually is and found out for the most part PUA is just kind of in a sense a get rich quick scheme, I stopped putting delusional focus on it, but I wouldn't take back anything I've learned.
Now I just be myself, and use pua stuff I learned when it's necessary, like in the past maybe a girl wouldn't text back, so I'd text her again, wait, then, again, wait, then again and all of a sudden she's like not into me at all when a little earlier she was super into me. Now I know what the problem was, and not to do that. That's just a super duper basic example, I've learned a lot in the last 10 years, and I will always look into pick up and learn from people better than me, but I'll never be delusional about it again thinking I'm going to find some method that let's me say a few words with just the right body language and any girls panties will just magically drop.
I actually like pua, I just hate how my view on it was, like I was not myself for a long time, but now I'm normal again with insane knowledge too. People like VinDicarlo though, f**k no. Pure 100% marketing. If it aint RSD it aint for me, basically.
For Ross Jeffries I can see not liking him, but his "routines" are more for making his products more complete, and trying to help people understand something complex in a short period of time. NLP is DEFINITELY something you should know, that sh*t is no joke, seriously. Ross Jeffries just gives the tip of the ice berg, but just like pua you don't want to get weird with NLP either, you just want NLP and PUA to just be salt to flavor the meal. Neither should be a focus, but it's good to know both because both are extremely powerful tools if you know when to use them and when not to.
I hope you have a good experience with SM. I'm running biabws right now, and it's like magic. Seriously, I'll probably run it until I want to settle down and get married.
