AM 6 Begins

[LionKing]

Yea the right moment to bring it up is when you choose to become vulnerable. Vulnerability is strength that is perceived by many as a weakness.

Actually the way I've been going about it now is to be as vulnerable as I can right from the start. That's my "game" atm, only talking this way to girls I find really attractive and then being very open with that.

But this exclusivity-honesty issue is what breaks my open/honest/vulnerable "strategy", because that's not something I can be open with right from the get go. So after she gets to see who I am a little better, but the question is: is there a "moral limit" somewhere. I'd bet some would say its before sex, but really I think the getting to know each other only starts after that, when the pressure is off of her. That's the first occasion I think she might have a good feel of what I'm about, when we've typically seen each other 2 or 3 times. "When a relationship starts to form" feels like somewhere after our 2nd or 3rd hookup.

Its just that my upbringing is raising its head somewhat, saying that there might be a moral issue with that. There isn't for me, but I can't help projecting that there might be for some girls. After 1-3 hookups has been ok in the past, as in they've been ok with it and continued to see me. And I don't lie before that, btw, I just don't bring it up. Its just that when I'm so open about everything else and deliberately not bringing this up, it almost feels like I'm lying. I think they must see that I'm pretty open about sex, but still it bugs me.

Blackdragon advises placing hints that you're seeing other girls and delaying the actual verbals as long as you can and deflecting the first times she asks it, but I don't like it. I had one girl start to develop feelings for me, and when I told her I'm not looking for a relationship she said she knew that quite well, but that she still somehow made herself believe it might be happening. Haven't seen her since. And this was a girl who saw me with a few other women in clubs and knew our group of guys always talked to girls. Anyway, that creates internal conflict for me and takes the fun out of it.

EDIT: I think the most troublesome belief behind my moral worries is "I have nothing to offer (to women)". But I'll continue in my journal, go Jackpot!