Please Help Me Choose (Stop Smoking 5G vs. US 4G & UM 4G)

[Davidoff]

and the responses have been that either people don't want to use it, or they insist on ignoring the instructions.

This would be my reason: once I discovered this Subliminal Pandora Box (your site with all your products), time starts to become very valued in connection to my/our future. Even if I was interested in some assist to stop smoking for good and something for motivation, I feel that I want to go with LTU with all my heart because it suits perfectly to my personal continuous growth especially in this moment; and I'm not a stubborn, but that's what I need more right now, to assist me with my Life Changing "campaign" that includes doing meditation, going to gym + cardio, getting richer in the upcoming months from my Internet Marketing career, eating healthier, fixing some other problems, buy my own house and stop with renting apartments (I'm 25 years old) etc., doing cold showers for all the benefices etc.., LTU was just on time!

Because I have such a big desire and ambition that grow bigger and bigger, especially in the last year, now I feel that I'm transforming already and the idea of loosing the cigarettes was just a matter of time on my list, therefore this rock in my way called Nicotine, should be 'killed' by my ambition and my strong decision.

But you gave me doubts now, because I know that it might be possible that if things would be too hard for me too handle and I will be in the middle of LTU, I will say in my mind that I did a bad call and that I should've go with SSF... And also, there's one more thing I still don't know about SSF. Since it refers to smoking, if I will smoke weed with no tobacco, isn't that going to alter the programming somehow?

I feel very bad right now, because I am disappointing you. And I want to try to go without SSF, just cold turkey and replace cravings with the thought that I could have a small MJ joint with no tobacco, waiting me just before going to bed in the end of the day.

To be honest, I become very irascible right-right now (a symptom of withdrawal) just from this simple thought. Because you gave me all the reasons in the world and explained it to me why I should go with SSF, but another part of me that was sticking with my self-growth plan, is still excited about blending myself with the LTU program. I am so mad, because I know that deep down inside me I want to go with LTU, even if I know that SSF is starting to work for a start (actually how many smokers from all this world have the same opportunity as I have right now? To know exactly about your product and technology.. but Many are skeptical, many don't know.. and I should be very happy..)

And this makes me so upset.. I wanted LTU because it has Self-Discipline in there among some other related things, and it's something to help me want to help me with my productivity and motivation.

One of the biggest problems smokers have is that "quitting" doesn't mean they actually stop. If you stop smoking, you are no longer a smoker. You're either a nonsmoker, or an ex-smoker. But these days, "I quit smoking" doesn't mean a damned thing. Just ask any smoker over 18 how many times they have quit smoking, and you'll see my point. Quitting means you stop. What 99% of smokers do is pause for a while, not quit.

You are very right in here. I have a few friends who are exactly this type that you describe, saying that they will quit soon, or that they should, or just quitting for a few days just to get back. From a personal perspective, I never wanted or said that I want to quit, I actually enjoyed it, but I realized more and more how pointless that was.

I am trying not to think about this as that I am doing a sacrifice/quit/give up on something, but more thinking that I am acquiring something, (re)gaining something, which is energy, stamina, better skin, smell, taste, breath, penis up awake in every morning like a hammer since I quit smoking, and I feel healthier. Based on these things is what motivates me enough to not touch them again.

A part of me wishes to go with SSF for the sake of your effort and because I feel like disappointing you for not doing it, because this is a very sensible topic, and I'm sure that you put more than hard work in it. It's strange because right now I am on the supraliminal of Stage 1 of SSF and I am still undecided. When I will be on my 3rd month and Stage 3, let's say I won't smoke nor have cravings.. I wouldn't be motivated enough to keep listening, knowing that it covers only this topics of stopping smoking, although it is very naive because stopping smoking is something very tricky! While on LTU, I would be much more motivated to listen to it "all day long", excited about it and also pumping a lot of self-driven placebo effect during all this time, besides the real gain of using the subs.

It's like I'm asking for your permission, that's how much undecided I am... I have to finish a hard project in 3 days with limited time, and here I am writing all these, making me more frustrated because I wrote way too much, that I should pay someone just to read all this...

My program is designed to get you to stop smoking... and make that a permanent change. Stopping without making it permanent is not stopping, it's pausing. That's one of the biggest things I learned about how smoking works while I was doing my development: Getting a smoker to stop smoking is only part of the task. Turning them into a permanent ex-smoker is an entirely different thing.

If all we were trying to accomplish was "quitting", then a month or two would be fine for most people. But we don't want to pause the addiction, we want to erase it forever. That requires a lot more time. That's why each stage is to be used for 32 days straight, without interruption.

This makes me think.. because what you are talking about is on a whole new level..
I asked many ex-smokers who stopped for 7 months, 1 year and 2 years ~ and most told me that that burden inside the chest similar to a craving will last about 1 month and a half. But they say that sometimes they feel like the would like to burn one up, but they don't. Will SSF also make me not even think about wanting to burn one up? Is it going to erase it forever if followed accordingly to the instructions?

Another important thing is that for most smokers, quitting cold turkey is very stressful, and stress is what? A primary trigger to smoke. That's why the program is designed to be used while you smoke as you please. It will turn the addiction off, and you'll stop without stress, and then over time, the program will erase all the social hypnosis that causes a "smoker who quit" to start up again, and replace it with new beliefs that turn a "smoker who quit" into "a non-smoker".

Oh.. this just answered my above question.

If you've successfully quit smoking already, it's probably not a good idea to start smoking again and allow the program to quit you again... just keep going with the program as you are, having stopped. But you need to start over on Stage 1 and run this program for 32 days per stage as if you just started using it for the first time. This is a very important program, and it needs to be used properly.

I have the SSF 5.0 version and it states the following in instructions:

5. Play Stage 1 of the program through speakers 24 hours a day, 7 days a week for 2 weeks (14
days) straight in your bedroom, so that whenever you are in your bedroom, you are being
exposed automatically.

7. When you have finished the first two weeks, switch to the next stage and repeat the process.

In there it says that each stage should have 2 weeks, for a total of 12 weeks, not 32 days. Is the 32 days for the version 6.0?

And by all means, please do keep a journal. I would appreciate having some feedback on the forum for those who are interested in the program from a point of view other than Patti's. :-) Nobody seems to want to post about this program.

I don't know Shannon.. the reason why I was also able last summer to "quit" for 3 weeks somewhat easy was because I wasn't thinking about cigarettes at all, I simply didn't thought of them and I was ignoring cravings, but I did had them too.

Everything was good and smooth until yesterday and today especially in the moments when I was/am writing this thread. It would do more harm to me to keep a journal, I would have to think about cigarettes so often and so detailed.. it's already bad right now.

I am sorry to disappoint you Shannon, but I think that keeping a journal would do more harm than good for me, because as you see I am talking too much already and if I would do a journal on SSF, it would make me think about cigarettes much more... and every memory can lead to certain thoughts which furthermore can give birth to impulse thoughts of smoking a quicky. And I know that a 6 month journal from me, well detailed, could help so many other people..

As a final conclusion, I think that Stop Smoking Forever is working, and everyone that isn't interested in all the other sub. programs for the next 6 months, should go with it all the way. I explained above why I want to go with something else.. however, if I will fail, I will go with SSF 6 months.. and it depends when, in case of if, because if I'll start with LTU and have 1 month+, I'll have to finish it... I'm very confused and frustrated about these choices of SSF vs LTU, that it makes me go insane already and it starts to trigger the withdrawal symptoms

Does it mean that if I don't want to go with SSF that I don't want to stop smoking so badly? And that is obvious how much and serious I am about my self-growth project that I prefer LTU over the SSF? I still wonder... I'm out.. it's already getting worse to think about these choices. Funny thing is how right now I have Stage 1 SSF on repeat... knowing very well that it assists me, yet taking it for granted like a fool.

I'm sorry Shannon I don't know.