07-26-2013, 03:56 AM
(07-25-2013, 10:26 PM)TheGraduate Wrote: Not sure which program is better but one thing that I know is true is that you can use a sub to push you in the direction of your goal, but you better have a real life action plan otherwise you ain't going anywhere.
True, in fact, I'd go a bit farther and say you'd better have a purpose in life beyond the goals of the subs or you will end up analyzing every little detail that happens to you.
"Hmm, that girl looked at me! Must be [insert sub here]"
I've done it, and I think it's the wrong mind-set to have.
Which brings me to:
(07-25-2013, 07:54 PM)ohmygee Wrote: Both subjects only approach girls at clubs.
Guy 1 - Indian, musclar build, dominant/aggresive personality.
Guy 1 did AM11 > SM2 > (no subs for ~6 months) > SM2. Guy 1 always has some sort of substance in his system when at clubs, alcohol, MDMA, phenibut, a combination of the 3. Guy 1 has never been approached when I've been with him. I HATE his style of "game". Goes up to a girl, introduces himself, stays in the ineraction for a few seconds, leaves. He thinks it benefits him by doing so, because if she see's him again she'll be more interested in him, or some stupid mental masturbation along those lines. I'm sure he had a lucky experience that cemented this style of game in him as successful. I dont approve.
He goes clubbing 1-2x a week.
2 girls in his social circle have slept with him but it took them a long time to get him at the right moment before making a move. Lay count unknown.
He still has anxiety even though he probably wouldn't admit it. His life is on hold, all he does is party right now. Honestly, he's my best friend and I'm disappointed with how he's using his time right now. But thats not my decision, so I bite my tongue.
Guy 2 - White, lean athletic build, passive personality.
Guy 2 did AM11 > SM2 > AM5 > WM2. Guy 2 is usually sober. He got laid his first night of WM2 from a girl that approached him. He's constantly approaching, staying in interactions, and escalating.
75% he's had sex at the females house, 25% his house. He's proved to me that logistics arn't as important as I believed. Its still helps a lot though. He goes clubbing 2-3x a week.
He says he has social freedom, and by the amount of girls I think he's slept with. I believe him.
Conclusion, if you have the option do WM2 over SM2.
Sorry man but the conclusion I make here is that Guy 2 has got his shit together, which is why his lay count is higher.
Guy 1 didn't seem interested in improving himself before doing another run of SM2, whereas Guy 2 decided to further improve himself before settling on WM2.
Guy 1 is trying to manipulate girls into sleeping with him (which shows underlying insecurity/doubt), Guy 2 seems more relaxed and comfortable around women.
Now, was that because of WM2? Maybe, but it's all conjecture at this point. I think perhaps the type of guy that uses WM2 is going to get good results whereas the type of guy that uses SM2 is not, and that's just a theory of course.
What was Guy 2 like before WM2?
