Alpha 5.0

[mat422]

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Oh man! I think I'm in the same boat man! Some things you're saying are really speaking to me:

This is good. It means what we are going through isn't as overwhelming as we might think it is.

I think I'm the same way with women. I have no desire to get good with them because trying to get good with them implies that I'm bad with them, which re-enforces my belief that I'm bad with them, and the more I do to learn how to be good with women, is actually me just telling myself that I'm bad with women, despite evidences to the contrary when I don't try.

In your case, it's probably like this:

"I'm not alpha enough, so I need to do this sub. Because I'm doing this sub, I'm not alpha enough, and will only be alpha enough after doing this sub" however, the main focus is that you "are not" in the present moment.

What is your definition of good with women? Maybe establishing that first will help you break it down into small parts instead of this whole mess that overwhelms you. Just some thoughts. Sometimes when you create ridiculous expectations of yourself it gets paralyzing.

Pretty close. I've gotten a lot more accepting of my situation than I was in the past and I've learned I just have to do what I have to do, regardless of it seeming not alpha. But it does make me wonder how other people out there can be confident and stuff without subliminals. I see their reality and mine, both of them are vastly different. I just can't figure out why it's so hard for me to have that reality as well.

YES! I've thought this too. That the only way to be good with women is to stop trying to be good with them and start believing that I am and just letting that person start living.

But let me guess. You don't believe it right? Catch 22 huh? In order to get good with women you have to believe you are good, but you feel like you can't have that belief until you actually are good. You sound like you're on the right path though.

Well here, I definitely understand what you're saying, it's the same for me. And I gotta say, put yourself where you naturally flow and just flow with it. For example: for me I've noticed that if I'm in normal situations and normal socializing with women, things go GREAT. But the instant I try to turn it into something, it crashes. I believe this is because I am doubting it and feel I have to do something when I actually already have it, which is her interest.

Don't know if I'm making sense, you've definitely articulated yourself better than me, but basically I'm talking about trusting yourself. Learning to trust yourself and who you are/what you want despite anything else, and then acting on it.

It was my belief that these subs help you to induce that inner trust, but if your analysis of the situation is correct, then it could be next to impossible to ever see any results as long as those results are dependent on the sub.

I definitely get what you are saying. People are really in tune to those subtle feelings you create in yourself. Non-verbal communication and stuff.

I've thought of similar things regarding inner trust. I think what you are describing though is beliefs. Think about it, individuals who are good with women believe themselves to be, it's that belief that allows you to trust yourself. You can't force yourself to believe something, I've tried. Otherwise it will feel like a lie and how can you trust yourself if you feel you are lying to yourself? Thing is, they might feel like lies, but if you think about it even more it's just our interpretation. I mean in your case you believe you aren't good with women, but that's just a belief right? Sure you may have experience to back up that belief but in the end that belief is what manifests your reality.

Theories, concepts, that's all I got unfortunately. I'm great at articulating this stuff. Living it though, that's a whole separate thing for me I haven't really gotten the hang of yet. All I can say is, it's down to accepting those new beliefs into your life and starting to live that reality. Unfortunately for me I feel like I have a hard time accepting those new beliefs. My guess is fear. I think some individuals just have more sensitivity to fear. It's like the deep end of a pool when kids start learning to swim. You've got the kids that jump right in and then you've got kids that avoid it because they fear it. I think fear is a very powerful force that can hold you in place, the most frustrating part is it's a very primitive behavior that doesn't respond to logic or reason.

Keep moving forward.