(10-25-2021, 10:46 AM)tolgaocal80 Wrote:(10-25-2021, 10:36 AM)Johannesbrst Wrote:(10-25-2021, 08:08 AM)Cozy Wrote: On the contrary I think your talents are being wasted on DMSI.
There’s a great set of books by an author called Esther Vilar called ‘the manipulated man’ and ‘the polygamous sex’ that basically outline how girls will deliberately suppress their desires (unlike men) from an early age in order to force men into a one-sided sexual dependency and maintain control and power over them, and they’ve been doing this since the beginning of history. Yes there’s a sex drive in everyone, but there’s also a survival drive that’s much stronger, and guys have had way easier for too long.
My point is that you’re trying to not only overcome this guys resistance but also the resistance of any other beautiful girl who’s already decided she’d rather keep a guy on a leash than have one night stands irresponsibly, which is also reinforced by centuries of conditioned societal accepted norms.
Maybe it’s possible but at what cost, full on mind control?
Back when DMSI was just about an aura it made sense, but now it seems like, with all due respect, you’re fighting against fundamental laws of nature.
That argument rests on a large simplification, namely that all men are involuntarily bound to be controlled by their sexual desires. Shannon has long time ago when developing AM realized that this is a huge factor on becoming a self-sufficient man, to no longer be ruled by the primal instincts, but instead achieve mastery over yourself. This in turn is what makes women crazy over the Alpha Male, as he can't be controlled by them.
You have a point that this is generally how people work, and it's kind of depressing that the relationship is so much coloured by manipulation and the fight for control and power, but it's not insurmountable. And if a man can overcome and master his sexual desires, I believe a man can develop the sexual presence that make women trow all their ideas of "keeping their power" as it's just simply a to good deal to pass on, sleeping with this man. Just as the character Don Corleone said - "I'm going to give him (her) an offer that he (she) can't refuse" - maybe not by the threat of violence, but that potential emotional experience (and we know women are not reluctant to go for those) that being with a irresistible (hence the name) man can give them.
I believe if a man don't need but desire sex, women, power, relationships, friend.. that is what turns them on, not only women but every people around them. this is what alpha males do.
No needing to say, manipulation is not even on the table, who uses AM and obtain results, will know exactly when and how is happening a manipulation, it is really obvious when you realize once.
Finding an AYP makes much more sense to me. Changing yourself to meet someone else’s standards definitely sounds like manipulation to me. If you desire these things that’s great, if you’re pretending to desire these things to turn women on, you’re most likely being manipulated. What’s more important? Your personal freedom or praise from women? Wouldn’t you rather be your own man instead of someone else’s subjective opinion of what is a man. Or maybe just a tool that’s more like a second father than a romantic partner.
Which side of the coin would we rather fall on guys.
