DMSI 3.3.2 discussion panel

[Shannon]

If you "don't believe in resistance" while resisting the execution of the majority of programs, what does that logically get you?  A free pass to blame someone or something else for the lack of result?  It's not you resisting because there's no such thing?  Maybe if you accepted the idea of fear based resistance, it would lead to something that you're afraid of, like discovering how to execute?  Logically, if I set in front of you a set of instructions and you refuse to execute them, you are resisting the execution of those subliminals.  

YOU ARE RESISTING WHEN YOU REFUSE TO EXECUTE THE SCRIPT.

So, notwithstanding self delusion and/or self deception, resistance logically does exist, it is logically within plain view of all of us, and it is logically a response to fear (at some level) of the results of executing.

Your point of view on this can only come from irrational thinking and some degree of self deception.  Self deception is a form of resistance that is used by the irrational subconscious to defend itself from a perceived threat.  Deception being the reverse of truth, and there being a polarity here where a thing is either true or false, we can safely presume in response that the deception is an attempt to defend from the truth.  And logically, the truth is, executing the script would achieve something that some deep and instinctual part of you believes is a threat to it's existence, and therefore something to be feared and resisted at any cost.  Therefore, it must deceive your conscious mind into believing that "there is no such thing as resistance" because you can't change what you believe doesn't exist.

This is kinda weird.
You're talking with the assumption that resistance does exist as you describe it but the thing is only you seem to know about it. I do not see any explanation. It's like saying that the sky is green because I said so and calling it a fact.
What you're calling a fact is hardly one. I mean, to anyone else this is more a hypothesis than a fact. Especially with something as abstract as the subconscious mind.

If you do not see any explanation then you are having a problem following my logic.  The explanation is:

1. When properly presented to the subconscious mind, an instruction will be executed.
2. We established how to properly present a statement to the subconscious mind in 1, 2, 3, 4G.
3. We then discovered that as we presented it better and better, the execution became less and less in some cases.
4. Following the evidence led us to conclude that the refusal to execute (resistance) was resulting from fear.
5. Various different approaches have been tried to deal with this, including increasing power, polymorphism, and many others.  Most approaches have had some benefit, but did not by themselves (or completely) resolve the problem.  
6. The logical thing to do is build a staircase of small steps to the solution.  When each step is built, we observe what happens and then use that information to build the next step and make progress.

That is how we arrived at 5G, 5.5G, and now 5.75G.

There is no question that resistance exists.  If you are not executing the script, you are, as I demonstrated above, resisting by definition.  That has been clearly and plainly established, and that is why I say, if you can't see it, the problem is in you not following the logic.  

It's black or white: the subconscious will always execute an instruction it understands which is properly presented and is possible to execute unless it perceives a threat from executing or achieving the goal of the instruction.  If it's not executing, then one of the following must be true:

A) The instruction is not being understood.
B) The instruction is not possible to execute.
C) The subconscious mind perceives a threat from executing it and achieving the goal of the instruction.

We established that my scripting methods satisfy requirements A and B in previous generations, leaving us with option C, which we have repeatedly demonstrated in case after case is the real issue.

Therefore, if the instruction is not being executed, then it is triggering fear, and consequently, resistance.  If you can't follow that, the problem here isn't me or my research.

Furthermore, we have DMSI 3.3.2 and ARA and LFC and Awakener and all are 5.75G.  ARA gets rave reviews.  LFC gets rave reviews.  Awakener works extremely well.  And DMSI 3.3.2 people are still struggling on.

All of them use the same skeleton script, and all of them have FRM 4.8 enabled.  Only DMSI is being resisted.  Logic tells us therefore that the goal of the program is not triggering resistance if it is being executed, and is triggering resistance as a result of fear when it is being resisted.  I don't know how to make it any plainer than that.

This is curious you're talking about being rational and stuff, but you can't call a fact something only you seem to know and understand with certainty. If I ask a resistance-believer on this forum to prove me resistance exists, nobody would be able, but a fact is, quoted from the dictionary, a thing that is known or proved to be true. Is resistance proven? What are the proofs? Let's not be dogmatic.

I suspect we are dealing with an irrational thinker here.  It is plainly obvious to anyone who comprehends what I said in my first response, and above, that my facts are indeed facts.  The real reason that nobody can prove the existence to you is the same reason Flat Earthers refuse to believe all the facts presented to disprove their argument also, which is: you choose to refuse to accept any argument that disagrees with your argument.  That is an irrational response, and a choice to refuse to see what is there, and the only reason to do it stems, ultimately from fear.  This is Type 4 (Self Deception), Type 5 (Self Delusion) and Type 14 (Refusal To See Reality) resistance.

By refusing to accept any evidence as valid, you always have an excuse to maintain your position, and therefore "can't be persuaded".  I've already laid out plenty of reasonable, logical evidence.  The rest is up to you.  But this argument only shows that you are too scared of the truth to allow yourself to see and agree with anything that would prove you wrong.  Which means it's useless to even argue my point.

I hope you see where I am coming from. I was more interested in what led you to that whole concept of resistance rather than if resistance (to the extent you believe in) exists or not. I wanted to understand you and your actions, as parts of the concern I shared. If my memories serve right, you plan to release a book someday on your work. So I think you should be able to explain to others what led to the actions you took and the beliefs about how the subconscious struggles with your products. So far one "proof" about resistance seems to be "Shannon said so, so it must be true".

If you're a rational person you should know this is not an acceptable answer.

I believe I have explained what led me to my whole concept of resistance many times on the forum, including at least once in the last two exchanges with you here.

As for the book, it's not going to be a book that is released to the public, and this argument we are having is at least half of why.  People would not understand it, and in not understanding it, they would use and implement it in unsafe ways.  The other half of why is that this knowledge is too dangerous in the wrong hands.  That book will be passed down to my protege.  One and only one copy will exist.

Your personal inability and/or refusal to see or accept what I have said, and the logic behind it, isn't my problem.  You assume that "the subconscious struggles with my products", when the reality is that some people hold beliefs that contradict their achievement of the goals because it would require them to face their fears.  Some of these fears are common (apparently sex is one of those) and some are not.  That is why some people execute a given program, and some do not.  Your personal experience is not the end-all be-all of "what is".  Neither is your point of view.  A rational person would have known that already.  

Anyway, from  your answer, I get that what lead you to this concept is the years and years on working with subliminal programs and wanting it to work for everybody. So I think a forum post would probably not be enough for you to explain what led you to that, and for me to understand you, so maybe we should leave it as that. But I still wanted to understand.

What is there left to understand?  Everything I have done, every change I have made, every thing I do, every method I use, every technology I have developed, all of them have resulted from experiments and using what does work vs what does not work.  

That, of course, is not going to be understood.  You can't see the script, so you're going to try to counter my argument with, "But if what you're doing works, then why aren't all the subs achieving their goals?" The answer is that what doesn't work is how to solve the root of the problem.  The only thing we have been doing since 2012 really is trying to figure out what the root of the problem is and solve it.

The root of the problem is that as you create more and more powerful and effective subliminals you reach deeper and deeper parts of the subconscious, which have (in some cases) less and less ability to understand things with anything but emotion and instinct.  The source of fear comes from a part of your awareness that is so primitive that it's like trying to convince a lizard to do what you want.  The key is that that part of you is trying to preserve itself (and you) because it understands things in such basic terms that any threat is apparently seen as "life or death".  And apparently, certain changes are classified as a threat.

Ultimately, the challenge is in understanding how to effectively communicate with that part of you that actually generates fear.  It is a vastly different challenge than what you might think.  

Soooo, about your approach, I think we'd just have to wait and see. I was concerned because results really dropped as soon as you went all-in against resistance but you seem to be so sure about that path. I tried to understand your line of thought but failed so I think all that's left for me to do is wait and see.

Results dropped as soon as I went all in against resistance because it triggered a fear that the defenses that "keep you alive" (read: prevent change) would be breached.  Because what I was doing was able to create that change.  Which is logically why effort and response and fear had to be generated to act against it, to stop that success.  There is no other reason for that response.

I think that you should stick with subliminals that work for you.  There's really no point to you using mine of you're not interested in the process of helping to develop them.  There will be no need for that once this is finished.  At that time, I'll just build out the library in 6G and you can take it (if it works for you) or leave it (if not).  But it seems to me that you're just interested in trying to make subtle attacks on me and my methods here.  Logic dictates that rational people use what works for them, unless they're trying to help develop something that doesn't work into something that does.

So pick one.