Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Benjamin]

Only Shannon can answer that, but as far as the “pay for sex loophole”, I hope that gets seriously addressed because he’s right, one way or another you pay for sex.

There is no "pay for sex loophole".

In that case, how are you going to ensure users don’t pay a hooker for sex but still pay for drinks on a regular date? To me that seems like one and the same thing and I’m sure the subc could interpret paying for drinks in hopes of getting laid as paying for sex.

Is paying for drinks on a regular date sabotaging DMSI to avoid executing it and/or achieving the end goal? A big part of your problem, Sarge, is that you generalize too much with what you believe. You take the "paying for sex" thing too seriously and too literally.

Going out on a date, if your goal is sex, then you will do what is necessary to get to sex. If that means playing into her desires to be wined and dined, then most guys will do that. But in the real world, women aren't just vaginas on legs, and no relationship of any kind is "free". You have to "pay" for friendship, you have to "pay" for love, you have to "pay for sex", you even have to "pay" to masturbate. You're just paying in different ways, and with different things.

Friendship costs time, energy, effort and patience. Sometimes money. Same with love. You wouldn't believe how many hours I have spent taking care of loved ones, both familial and romantic. Sex costs in achieving the state of being who she wants to have sex with (hygiene, gym, socializing, condoms, lube, car, job, fun, etc.), and masturbation requires time, effort, energy, privacy, and for most guys these days, an internet connection and a phone or computer.

DMSI is aimed at preventing you from sabotaging DMSI's goals by wasting time in fantasy, doing useless things, masturbating or ***** a hooker IN ORDER TO PREVENT YOURSELF FROM ACHIEVING THE GOALS OF DMSI. As long as that is not the reason for doing it, or what it will result in, DMSI doesn't care and neither do I.

But you don't deserve a refund on DMSI for buying it and then doing everything in your power to sabotage it, and you don't deserve to blame me for that choice of actions. So my job is to make sure you achieve the goals of DMSI instead of jerking off in a closet because you're scared of real vagina, so I don't have to listen to you guys complain that "DMSI doesn't work" and then have you demand a refund because you chose to jerk off in a closet because you're afraid of real vagina.

Going out on a date and paying for it does not help you sabotage DMSI. On the contrary, it is likely to help you achieve the goals of DMSI. The key here is to prevent self sabotage.

A big part of your problem Shannon is you throw these little tantrums and use me as your punching bag. F*ck off, it was a legitimate question. I’ve been on a ton of dates this week, I’m not hiding in a closet masturbating, take that shit out on someone who is. I don’t know why you have such a problem with me aand I don’t care, I deserve respect as a paying customer. I don’t harass or insult you, I expect the same courtesy.

Because you constantly post stupid crap, and try to give advice to people about women when you're totally clueless, making things worse for impressionable people. There is way too much of that going on right now on the forum from several people. Which is exactly why anyone who has any idea doesn't bother to post or discuss it anymore.

And now you talk to Shannon like this, when I can't comprehend why he botheres to try to explain things to you anymore cos it's always the same response from you. Shannon is less harsh than me, but i'm giving you time off again, i'm sick of it.