10-11-2018, 08:34 AM
(10-10-2018, 04:31 PM)kingpill Wrote: The way I see it:
Vibe/Energy>Inner Game>Outer Game>Social Proof/Style>Looks
Again, my experience disproves this having been approached and "opened" by women constantly for most of my life (not lately tho, hmm). Anyhow, my theory is that my vibe and energy draws them in, but my verbals (or lack therof) turns them off. I'd say this:
Energy/Vibe (is also inner game imo) is needed FIRST then Verbals (which is part of outer game) and KINO is very important too (other part of outer game). But that's all you need.
If any of those things are a turn off, the whole seduction is lost. That's been my experience. I've never had social proof (recluse loner who hot girls hit on in high school. I slapped hot girls asses in high school too just to prove to myself I could do it and no consequences like you'd expect if the typical loner suddenly started slapping asses). My vibe's always been good (lots of approaches), verbals always been terrible, losing every woman after a few seconds of convo. So that tells me that is where the problem lies.
Like I said style never mattered (poor growing up and had the "poor kid" style), rarely bathed or showered till I was 25ish. Started approaching women at 24 and got very good responses. Better than I get nowadays. Lots of people freak out at that fact, but it is a fact nonetheless. Must have approached a hundred or more women in my 24th year as I just got into pickup and never had better responses since then. You might say "yeah so your verbals were good!) Yeah cause I was into PUA and had some routines I ran.