Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Darkness]

[quote='Darkness' pid='203490' dateline='1534428888']
@Have at ye

Another is the he is that nice. And unfortunately subconsciously women perceive it as weakness. Hence when you care too much, show too much emotion. She assumes you’re a bitch. If you ignore her to the extent of extinction. She respects you because she’s like “oh, he HAS backbone, cute”

On her end it could be self esteem issues or worse, he needs to what he isn’t: more abusive.

Unfortunately very few women actually like honesty/sincerity. Or else we wouldn’t need these subs change or suppress certain traits in us.

TBH I believe that females only perceive being "nice" as weakness if you're being, well, servile - especially when your motivation is either "I need to be nice to have sex with her" or "I need to be nice because I'm totally worried she'll leave me if I'm not", or suchlike. Basically, anything that says "I'm playing nice because I'm a well-behaved kid and if I'm nice and obedient, then mommy will give me treats maybe!" Also, it can come off as totally creepy and needy because of that factor. [\quote]

Niceness when it’s caring too much, which isn’t the this for that scenario will still turn her off. Also take into consideration the tactic of finding commonality to ingratiate. That’s kind creepy, because it’s a manufactured affinity not an unconscious hence sincere.

What’s needy exactly?
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I wouldn't say that the answer is "being abusive", but I guess what you're driving at is "having a backbone". There's a difference.
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Having a backbone, also requires one to go from lack of sympathy to down right apathetic and remorselessly firm. Whether it’s standing up to her when she bullshits you and tries make feel bad for enforcement of boundaries just to see if you fall for fake woe is me routine. Thus lending you to having be abusive by disregarding her crying through indifference.