Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[dissonance]

Thor I’m curious and would love your opinion on why I have only gotten laid by using pua...

Cuz you are good looking ?

Aside some basic principles, PUA is so useless.

How come I never got laid before learning PUA then?

Sarge as i have said previously your good looking. Its not hard for guy who is an 8 to get laid with a girl who is a 5, 6 7 or 8.

How long have you been studying pua ? 3 to 4 years ? How come you were not getting laid then ?. Then DMSI 3.2 comes along then your getting laid.

DMSi i believe has cleared some crap out out of your head which was stopping you from taking strategic action to get laid. PUA is a gimmick. Do you think a fat balding guy in his 50s who has never groomed able to get laid with a girl half his age. Answer no because the moment that girl layes eyes on him she has already decided in her mind that i dont want to give him the time of day. So he will get blown out.

So no pua material in the world will help him. Unless he is celebrity.

The big breakthrough came when I learned the "push/pull" tactic. I use it on every date and it works to get makeouts and such.

It's a spectrum. The more tactics you use successfully, the more successful you will be with the girl. I know this for a fact. That fat balding guy in his 50's is, I believe, Johnny Soporno who dates pornstars so yes, it can and does work.


In sales it is the same, if you don't use the tactics right, you won't be successful on the same street where someone else who is using the tactics right will clean up. I know this because I've been that guy.


Having said that, there will always be girls/customers who will not buy no matter what, but it's not as simple as "you're good looking". I look better than my brother, for example, and yet he has a steady stream of women. So I don't buy that for a second.

I feel it's not because of the tactic itself. Its more about what character traits the tactics subcommunicate about yourself when you use them. DMSI allowed you to actually believe these character traits more and more about yourself, thus you did and said certain things that displayed these character traits more and more. In this case it was the Push/Pull "method" (which actually isn't invented by PUAs; its an actual social interaction thing people do in general, PUAs just slapped a name on it)

In my situation, i saw this more and more from DMSI. When I hang out with girls now on dates or whatever, I'm not afraid to compliment them, touch their hair, say their gorgeous, because I'm not afraid or guilty or feel creepy or un-entitled to my sexuality and sexual attraction and desire for them. Before DMSI, I didn't feel entitled/worthy or whatever. But now, I do (more at least), so I do make such compliments when I want, and that subcommunicates the trait of self-esteem/worthiness/entitlement to my sexual desires, etc or whatever.

At the basis, giving compliments could also be labelled as a "tactic", but it's actually just a basic form of human interaction and rapport to create connection, just like lots of PUA "tactics". But... on the other hand so many PUA "tactics" that the "gurus" create are so specific and contrived because it was something they did or said themselves for them specifically that fit their personality/persona. In this case, I feel that PUA is useless because it's not in the form of a human interaction and rapport that anyone can use, it's a specific "line" or "action" that's personally tailored to its creator.

Anyways I agree with you that some PUA "methods" and teachings are useful, but others are really not. I discovered this over the past few years. I realized sooo much is useless shit that is created specifically to fit a certain person or persona, or crowd. Over time though, I got better at determining which is useful and applicable to making me a more attractive version of ME and what isn't. I was/am a proponent of Bruce Lee's quote... “Research your own experience. Absorb what is useful, reject what is useless, add what is essentially your own.” However, DMSI is what allowed you to apply and use those teachings and methods or whatever better and better and more genuinely/effectively than before.