(03-30-2018, 07:56 AM)wolverine_i_am Wrote: I know my thoughts might be unwelcomed here, lol. But isn't that still an excuse to not let go of porn? You're still seeking that porn chick and you're still torrenting porn. You could always look for porn later on when you marry your future wife, but right now your actions still seem unconscious, that you're still struggling to let go of porn.
You know, youre wrong in that case lol no-ones thoughts have ever been unwelcomed here, this is Jake2015's post not someone else's but I wont have any advertising or spam of cos haha
Thank you for reading my post bro and no no i see it like this. I didnt stop fap intentionally. I dont even have an issue with fapping or with porn. Not consciously anyway or rather not at the time im enjoying either or both.
I also didnt actually realise no fapping to be in DMSI, before I started DMSI tbh, but even if I did it wasnt such a big deal for me. I actually didnt realise fapping was a big issue within DMSI itself.
I have since stopping my fapping googled more about the benefits in the hope that these will be my benefits too which is great.
The fact that im not fapping isnt because I have tried to stop or have wanted to stop. i have had zero thoughts on it tbh, my issues have not been around or about porn that im aware of.
The fact that ive now stopped fapping and feel a decrease in desire to fap shows me that its DMSI that has executed and I followed through. Thats how im aware that im not stonewalling and also how I will know that porn and other things are being executed.
I am not fapping so great, and I have no desire to watch porn but that in my mind is different to me saving it for the future. I may not want to eat chocolate right now but im more than happy to save up for when I do want to eat chocolate whether that be as a treat, or with a partner or dare I say it from a partner.
So no the fact that im not watching porn for this long to me is indicating that perhaps this element has or will be executed...time will tell. For now though my focus isnt porn but its if that pornchat girl comes on however she isnt the focal point of my day, I simply have a habit.
Ah let me put it this way. I have had the habit of fapping. I would do it automatic at certain times. According to psychology, you could argue that there is a cue and thus I due to the cue automatically play out the habit. So in my cases it could be not being able to sleep, or perhaps no class, so waking late and enjoying some self loving before I got up and got on with my day.
This habit has stopped!! and I never once tried to stop it or even cared to stop it as it wasnt a big thing in my life, I did it once a day or once every other day or sometimes once every 3 days, and then there were times I may choke the monkey multiple times but thats rare. Why is it this way could be many health and age related factors I feel.
Edit: I have tried to stop fapping in the past actually, but after a few days or month I would get back onto it. My record was 6months due to oneitis to a girl (long story).
I also now have a habit of visiting certain websites pretty much in some order which isnt always followed. 5 websites, that I visit. 1 of them is this forum. I visit daily.
I have noticed my desire to go to pornchat/porn site has reduced. My desire to go on another similar site has also reduced. It hasnt gone but my desire to go and stay on these sites is basically from initially 30mins or 1hour to say now 5mins or 10mins. Sometimes its a quick jump in and jump out. if it wasnt for the mail options, i wouldnt hang around much either.
I havent noted it in my journal because it hasnt been obvious and I want to see if its me trying to make DMSI execute like a placebo or if its DMSI.
I havent stopped coming here and most of my time is actually spent here and that is because for me writing the journals allows me to note my findings/observations, keep a note of the primary ASRB, how many days left till I have a break etc and also a way to see if Shannon has said anything that could be of benefit to me as well as for me to pass it to anyone else if I can help.
The only other site in competition in terms of time would be the swinger dating site. Sure there are nude pics and topless pics of real people and by this I mean singles and couples, but I simply look to see who seems to my preference to send a generic intro message. Its more of a habit than anything else, same as fap but fap so far as gone.
If I consciously stopped doing this thinking right this is what im aware is in DMSI and I should stop it cos DMSI has it to stop me then I wont :
a) know whats been executed or not
b) know whether anything else was DMSI or not. I love the fact that im not fully aware of all that in DMSI and so I write my journals also in the hope that shannon may read and then to himself go in an evil maniacal laughter... "muhahahah that has been executed, well done Jake its working..." lol
this is getting long lol but im just letting my thoughts speak and thats how I see it.
For example, there have been times I have tried to stop a habit and have been unable to...many times actually. Or when I have stopped due to willpower, eventually some stress or turmoil brings me back to fucking it up....a prime example is fapping or my sleep cycle or my diet in terms of reducing sugar or not having sugar at all to now lets have that chocolate bar etc.
Will power is spent and is finite.
Another example that springs to mind is my self esteem. I have gone out and walked tall and strong only to then forget doing it a day or so later. I have perhaps today stopped thinking about my hair loss cos my hair is trimmed/groomed and short so it looks better, but when its longer and dishevelled I become fixated on the obvious clear thinning area which is what has been happening past few days as revealed in my journals.
DMSI will thus work for me I believe in the same way it has for fap, when no willpower is needed and it simply works and I simply stop doing what it is that is being executed and voila done.
I also have been a member of this porn site for around 8years I think. I go on there now simply to see if that pornchat girl gets back, simply because yes she ticks many boxes for me otherwise I would go on and off quicker simply due to habit.
If DMSI has a no porn element, perhaps the easier things to work on are those things that are least important to me, those things I have least issues with and least hang ups about such as fapping but other things I hold more dearly perhaps will take longer. I dont know but all im saying is that this is how I believe it is.
I value your feedback as I do everyones and nothing above was to sound offensive or condescending etc Im just throw that out because I dont take ANYTHING here to heart at all its online for peets sake besides I chuckle if someone gets heated up on here, we shouldnt let anything get us down on here, we can simply log out and log back, its the real world where I get challenged though, alas dont we all.
ammendum: Just forgot to mention also that this is why MLS 5.5G or E2 and even IYGSH 4G confused me or rather how others here confused me. Shannon and others would constantly remind me that these are merely tools and I would have to take responsibility and use them. I didnt get that because I havent tried to stop fapping. My subconscious is (hopefully) executing DMSI, and this has caused me to somehow, (perhaps reduced desire to fap) stop fapping, but I havent done anything.
In this same manner, procrastination is fear based, I cannot simply push through. I have done 1 time here and 1 time there, yet the fear either overpowers me or totally stops me, thus until this is cleared and healed all I can do is keep on trying which is what ive done throughout my scholastic/academic history.
My understanding of subliminals is that they will effect the subconscious so that its easier or rather more comfortable to natural do or dont do whatever is being asked. This is how I believe it has happened for fapping for me so far and thus assures me that my understanding is for me somewhat clear.
ive no idea why im spending so much time typing, but im waiting for fightgirl and mutual friend girl to come over as they want to come over to borrow my pots for whatever theyre cooking for us all tomorrow....so I seem to be passing or killing time here but ill stop now haha
OF3 5.75.7G 13/15Vol
1L-2O/3OF; (1L-2/2 5/6); (2L 19/6); (3L 27/6); (4L 9/7); (H4L 25/7)
W 19 May
MLS 5.5G: ≈70days x2, IYGSH: 54, E2: 78+48, DMSI 3.2: 56 & 22, UMOP1: 57+UMOP2: 33 = 90+10 US v12/15=100, OF: 45, OF2: 56days
1L-2O/3OF; (1L-2/2 5/6); (2L 19/6); (3L 27/6); (4L 9/7); (H4L 25/7)
W 19 May
MLS 5.5G: ≈70days x2, IYGSH: 54, E2: 78+48, DMSI 3.2: 56 & 22, UMOP1: 57+UMOP2: 33 = 90+10 US v12/15=100, OF: 45, OF2: 56days