Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Determined]

That nofap stuff is highly personal. However, some people don't even want to try it before making up their minds. I too was thinking before that jerking off once in a while was okay. Until I tried nofap for more than 60days. Now I can't just go back at all and now I know how harmful it was for me. That was really self-destructive...The benefits outweigh by far the few minutes of delusional pleasure you would get by fapping. Just the fact that life became infinitely more pleasurable is priceless. I do more in less time and everything is fun. I have that stupid smile all the time and everything seems more and more enjoyable.
Idk about the benefits of nofap regarding sex and women as I couldn't care less at all, but my mood is great and life seems more easy.

So I think people should try at least. As it is very personal you don't know what you might get from it.

I agree that you never really know what the benefits are, until you do it for at least 2-3 months. I'm 4 months in now, and life is just much more amazing.

The problem with science and medicine is that you can't trust what they are saying. They invented the myth that masturbation is good for you and that not masturbating increases your chances of prostate cancer. But these propaganda are designed to trick you and to prevent you from your true potential.

I'm not picking on you Wolf so please don't feel that way, but so much of what you just said is wrong.

Firstly, the original study was relating ejaculation and prostate cancer. Somehow, people spun that to include "masturbating" and the narrative was born.

Secondly, I just did a bit of researching; the studies relating masturbation and prostate cancer actually indicate that men in their 20's and 30's who masturbate frequently actually increase their risk of early prostate cancer while men in their 50's decrease it.

As an add on to the NoFap discussion, this would be much easier if people stopped demonising masturbation. If we're going to be honest here, we all played with ourselves because it feels good. Our initial instincts directed us to put our hands in our pants and have a fondle. Developmental psychologists have identified that it's normal for pre-pubescent boys to play with their private parts. So stop demonising masturbation because that's not the issue.

The real issue is porn. If you're fapping and you're not horny, then you have a problem.

Masturbation itself is a normal, healthy activity. Where it goes wrong is when people abuse it (just like anything else in this world). Even Casanova wrote a few pages in his biography extolling the virtues of masturbating.

The real issue is self control. No one's forcing you to watch porn and masturbate. You're making a choice. Scientists and Doctors aren't openly advocating for everyone to engage in masturbation because it's healthy. That's just a cop out. If doing a NoFap and conserving semen helps you break that pattern, then more power to you.

To summarise: Admitting that you (or anyone else) engaged in masturbation because it feels good and because we instinctually play with ourselves is a necessary first step. Demonising it because you look back and want to blame something instead of taking personal ownership is something else entirely. There's noting inherently wrong with masturbating. Where people go wrong is when they abuse porn, or willingly choose not to pursue women.