Have been gone for awhile

[DarkPlouf]

Plouf, whether you realise it or not, you're actually agreeing with me with what you say.

"It's about finding what's works for a given user" which is exactly what taking responsibility for your own results is.

If you really read my above post you'd see it's an outline of how beliefs are created. There's nothing to "debunk" there.

For all the people you've mentioned I'd say they used the wrong tool for the wrong job. Finding what works is using the right tool for the right job. Everyone is different.

RTBoss, if getting his wife in the mood was his aim, then poetry of the silent Eros would have been better suited. Even then he said he received all the other benefits from DMSI, so he isn't exactly a non responder. The fact that his wife never initiated sex, I'd say there's more going on under the surface than what DMSI is doing. More than likely she needs to have H/C of her own.

Alright, I get what you're saying now.