08-01-2017, 08:13 AM
(08-01-2017, 05:01 AM)mat422 Wrote:Quote:I'm going to have to disagree with you here.
If something doesn't yield external results, it does not work (for the person using it).
The reason why so many different things work for so many different people is because people are different. What works for one might not work for another. But still, if something gives external results, it DOES "work". Whoever is analyzing it is irrelevant. The external results are the objective reality.
Now, I agree some people may not be self-aware enough to know what, exactly, is causing the results. Like in the case of the jerk, "treat women like shit!" is his motto, but maybe the reason it works is because he and the girls are having fun while he does it, and that is what is really turning them on. Not him treating them like shit, but his self-amusement and including them.
But my question is how does anyone know they are self aware enough to figure out what is really generating the results? That's what I'm getting at when I say the human mind is subjective. For example Shannon uses predictive models to aid in his subliminal creation, without those he stated we would still be at 3G tech I think. How can you personally know that the results you're witnessing are what you attribute them to? That's my constant thought process on this stuff.
I hear you. That's a big part of it (predicting). If you can predict with reliable consistency, you've got a "winner".
If what you use (i.e "jerk game" or whatever) can be used, then not used, off and on, and you can see consistent results everytime it is "on", you've got a winner (or at least, you're close.). Do you really need to find out the TRUE reason behind it if it works? That's another can of worms. lol
(08-01-2017, 05:01 AM)mat422 Wrote:Quote:Wow man, I agree 100% with this. Very aptly put.
In sales I've been told I'm a natural and can get away with things others can't. I think that is a sure sign one is dwelling in "it". Whether it be sales, music, women, doesn't matter.
I also think that, along with identifying flaws and capitalizing on strengths, it is more or less about having the courage to be what you know you are, and not hiding it from others. Not imposing, but not hiding. Interacting, yet not dictating. Being, not forcing.
EDIT: Oh, btw, have you ever read "The Alchemist"? It's a great book. In it he talks about the objective reality I'm trying to describe. He calls it "the wind" I believe. I need to read it again but yeah, great book for that.
Definitely something to having the courage to be who you are. But I think this goes back to things like fear. I always had the belief that the potential is there, it just needs to be released. The inner self is always pushing forward and naturally gravitates towards growth. It's just fear and doubt that holds us all back.
Never read The Alchemist, but I'll definitely take a look at it. Seems right up my alley. Right now I'm reading this book Mind power . It's really old, like 19th century, but I figured it could hold some wisdom.
You could be right. Fear also has a powerful effect on other people. It's one of the few emotions I've seen translated to others from myself. Enthusiasm or happiness? Not so much.
Anyhow, I've not read that book of yours. I'm very skeptical on those kinds. I have a bunch of them (including the kybalion) but I wasn't able to use them to my advantage.
Anyhow, hope you like the Alchemist.