07-19-2016, 09:44 PM
(07-19-2016, 09:20 PM)Benjamin Wrote:Quote:Funny you mention Igor, he is who I wanted to learn from once I have money. Might have to reconsider after reading that though. I've learned some from Ross Jeffries but I've never been through a true covert hypnosis course to actually learn it on a deep level. If you seemed weird are you sure you were doing covert hypnosis and not instant induction hypnosis? Instant induction is when you actually hypnotize someone and say weird stuff like 'deeper and deeper' and all that stuff. Covert hypnosis is like you say "Man that would suck, if it were my cat I wouldn't be a dick to it like that guy" and you could do anything like scratch your nose when you say suck and my and dick. Actually, maybe that's NLP and not even covert hypnosis... Now I'm wondering if I even know what covert hypnosis is, ha.
Igor seems good at what he does, i'd much rather him over Ross Jeffries.
Ross Jeffries is like 100x more weird. I can't stand him and his 'energy' really.
I don't know really, I was just trying some of the stuff I learnt but it seemed bringing it out too early, similar to Ross Jeffires talking about connection and stuff comes off as weird. Not sure how it'd go after alot of practice.
The way I do dirty talk I mainly learnt from listening to alot of nlp stuff and hypnosis cd's in the past and then practiced it and somehow I can do it really well now.
I'm not an expext, I didn't practice it enough.. but the thing is if you don't have a baseline of confidence don't think you're actually gonna be able to go out and use something that is way different than your normal way of speaking.
Yea I figured the better I got at it the more confident I'd be talking to strangers.
I agree Ross Jeffries is weird as hell and he's hard to learn from. I learn what I can free online but idk how some of these super crazy guys are so good at it and you can't even tell at all that they're doing anything.
I guess like Tony Robbins says you gotta get to unconscious competence, and that's when you're so good at or familiar with what you're doing that you do it without even thinking about it. That's probably when a person can just talk and not sound or feel weird but use covert hypnosis flawlessly at the same time.
I'm almost 100% certain that some of the rsd guys use covert hypnosis even though they make fun of hypnosis and nlp. I don't think they do it all the time, but I do think they know it well and use it where it fits. Especially julien, he moves his hands so damn much when he talks and he can do something as simple as move one hand in one direction on certain words and our subconscious will get the message.
Like a simple example of what I mean he could be moving his hands all over like always and could for a very basic example say something like "Always give as much value as you can. Be a value giver, you always want to give, never take. That's one of my number 1 rules that I like to tell guys, just give value, always give. Over the course of my years with Tyler improving my pickup, that's the number 1 thing I've learned."
While he's moving his hands all rapid, he could for example move his left hand to the left only for the words: Take, My, & Course and our subconscious minds would pick up on that message he covertly sent us which would be "take my course"
Some infields I'll see them grab a girl by the back of their head, barely rock them, and look deep into their eyes and I'm pretty sure that's an instant induction technique, and IDK i could be 100% wrong but I just feel like they know covert hypnosis and use it sparingly. There's just stuff I see sometimes where I think they must know covert hypnosis, and other stuff, like juliens rapid hand movements where it's be like impossible to consciously recognize what the hell he did if he was doing something, but the way he moves his hands so much, if he did know some covert hypnosis, he could easily be throwing out countless covert messages.
Idk how I even got into all that lol but I just always get this vibe like they study covert hypnosis and are pretty good at it.
If there was something else I was gonna say, I forgot about it in that ramble lol, I think there was something but oh well, I can't remember. Guess I hypnotized myself into a trace there and forgot what I was even saying, or if there was even anything else I was going to say, maybe not.