04-28-2011, 02:10 PM
This isn't some mumbo jumbo everything is nothing nihilistic "if I say it confusingly enough people will think it's deep" stuff. It's a point so simple, so obvious, that we completely miss it on a daily, hourly and minute by minute and second by second basis. But by understanding this point, you can begin to see the matrix itself.
Is it light? lol
also Shannon, whatever your answer is I'm sure it is very simple and mind bending in its matrix revealing power but I have got to say some of the stuff the guys have said, especially Jay, have been really cool as well. My genuine EXPERIENCE of looking into the fire and letting go of thought is that everything becomes transparent, empty, and yet all woven together, there is a dissolution of observer and observed.
I don't know what I am looking at if I let go of my beliefs. All I know when I look at the flame, I am looking at light, maybe I am seeing something in my mind and not really seeing whatever the flame is.
Also, it may not be the answer your looking for, and it may not have been any intended experience or response in your experiment, but everything is nothing-in the Buddhist sense, is about as far from nihilistic and mumbo jumbo as you can get.
Anyway I give up trying to get an answer but will continue flame gazing on occasion, as it is really fun, thanks for the suggestion and I do look foward to the final revealing of this koan
1. There is always some madness in love. But there is also always some reason in madness.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
2. A thinker sees his own actions as experiments and questions... Success and failure are for him answers above all.
3. I would not know what the spirit of a philosopher might wish more then to be than a good dancer.-F.N.
