04-08-2016, 09:53 AM
(This post was last modified: 04-08-2016, 09:53 AM by dissonance.)
(04-08-2016, 06:17 AM)chaosvrgn Wrote: Most of the people at T-Nation and Bodybuilding.com gravitate between zealots for steroids or going completely natural and anything that threatens that status quo is ridiculed. There's hundreds of positive SARMS reviews, they just refuse to admit it. It's like going to a self-help forum and mentioning IML and subliminals. You'll get a bunch of people that haven't actually tried them complaining.
However, they're completely right that you shouldn't run steroids until you've worked out for a year or two. That being said, Ostarine is a SARM (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_..._modulator) not a steroid. Two very different classes of chemical.
I'm not sure why they keep saying you'll lose your gains. YOU WILL NOT LOSE YOUR GAINS. It's scientifically and physically impossible. He's suggesting that when you come off the Ostarine, suddenly the muscles you built are going to just melt away? No -- the gains are permanent, as long as you keep exercising, but the same thing goes along with steroids. Now, you COULD lose that extra pump that was sustaining your workout, but the strength will go nowhere.
Everyone seems to think that steroids automagically turns you into the Incredible Hulk or something. Here's a very basic explanation from LiveScience:
"When we lift weights heavier than what we're used to, we create tiny micro-tears in muscle fibers. The body's natural repair process repairs the tear and then overcompensates by adding bigger cells to build a stronger fiber — this is called muscular hypertrophy. Over time, this repeated process of teardown and re-build will result in muscle growth.
Natural testosterone is the body's main ingredient for this process, but anabolic steroids can serve as a supplement."
Ostarine works in a similar manner without the nasty side effects. There are hundreds of scientific studies on SARMs. They work.
If you're really serious about this, however, I'd recommend doing one of two things (or both):
1. Hiring a personal trainer to develop a fitness and lifting plan for you.
2. Joining an MMA gym. Not just Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, but something with Muay Thai. Go look at Muay Thai fighters -- they're generally ripped from the incredible amount of conditioning they have to do. It's also a bit more interesting and dynamic than lifting weights.
3 (BONUS): And if you're gonna try the Ostarine, just try it. I'd workout without it first though so you can get a baseline. That's how I know Cardarine works for a fact.
Ahh okay, great to know. Yeah, I got the vibe they were a bit biased as well. Thanks for the suggestions, I'll definitely consider them. Right now, I still have anxieties that would prevent me from getting the most out of such a venture as joining an MMA gym, but once I overcome them, it sounds like it could be a really great outlet for myself.
Oh and about that stuff he said about the PCT, is that true? What's a good PCT that you recommend that is good for Ostarine? I think I'm gonna do 6 or 8 week cycles so that I don't have too much suppression. Also, what's a good dosage for me starting out? I have about 8 months of concrete workout experience (total; not continuously, so I lost some size/strength in breaks). And how do you "measure" the dosage? The products on Sarmsx look like they're all in droppers? How do I measure accurately such specific mg dosages for the Ostarine?