Online dating success...

[rubman]

I've been thinking about this...

What about a subliminal about attracting people to your profile and making them aware that you are interesting/charismatic?

I see in forums a lot of frustrated people (vast majority men) who complain about not receiving mails back. I think this would be a good idea!

[massagemaggie]

I have had huge success from online dating.

Sounds like it would be a very marketable sub, or program even though other ones should have the same effect, secondarily. Things like alpha male and various self esteem programs. However, I imagine a lot of people want a quick fix solution to get girls to respond, rather than to fundamentally attract women who are actually interested in them as a person. In one way it is a numbers game, but it does not take many people to have a varied, busy and highly satisfying dating and sex life. It just takes some of the right kinds, and more than that is a waste of time and typing.

re: being interesting and charismatic -- you can't really fake it and make women somehow see it, you just have to BE it.

I've noticed the vast majority of messages are just not in my league.
"hey whats up?"
sometimes they'll extend it to "your so sexy, want to chat?"

"wow you are so beautiful, i love your pic, are those real?"

There are mass ones that have obviously been pasted have have nothing to do with my profile or desires. And of course the profiles and pictures themselves.

Not looking for a guy posing topless, or who does not have the self esteem to write something about himself in his profile.

"well im not really good at talking about myself"
"my friends say...."

If you're not on the ball enough to create a profile there is not going to be much success, period.
Every woman is looking for something else. I dismiss needy men loooking for validation, ones who make a fuss about how faithful they are right away, and ones looking for straight out sex.

Men need to know what they're looking for (hot girls to date casually? to F$#? to have a relationship with? marriage?) and then go after it definitively. They're usually too busy whining about how they can't get laid to even be focused on what they do want and allow it to happen.

I recently moved to Canada, put an ad out in the platonic section of Craigslist looking for someone to hang out with and have pints, good conversation, and maybe bike rides or walks.
Only one out of about 100 responses was intelligent and well thought out. I responded to him alone, we met immediately and his actual intelligence and charisma succeeded in making sure I was open to him in many ways. No time wasting or idiocy.

[Spiral]

I like the idea. I didn't have the best success because I felt in some way I had to impress (needieness..) a women I guess and I feel like it's completely different online than in real life. it is.

But I struggle to find the connection with anyone online... but then it's been several months since I've talked to a woman online. I'm much for setting up a meeting in real life rather than online. You can be playful in humerous but like maggie said you have to know what you want and be honest with yourself and allow things to happen. Do not be too forward but you have to be willing to take the lead in everything when it come to setting up the meeting, making the call, etc. Just the way online dating is set up. Ryan I think got it to where he was pursued by women by having a nice picture, a very in depth and funny profile (which isn't necessary) and good humor. He also was able to sense the connection through the internet. So being intuitive helps.

But I'd be inclined to give this subliminal a shot if Shannon decides to make it.

EDIT: take all this with a grain of salt. for I know nothing lol

[rubman]

massagemaggie:

Yes you are right... If a person is as interesting as a brick not a lot can be done... but I was referring to those who are openminded individuals, fun and honest and not looking strictly for a f***...

I see everyday all those "nice" guys with bad luck online. Maybe it could be something to add to AM or WM.

BTW, I have huge success online thanks to LM and BIABW when I use it

Spiral:

So true... in the past I had very bad time with online dating... no dates, nothing. Until I Started using some selfhelp methods, meditation, etc... When I started loving myself enough, I really started have more success online. Still there are the Stupid Diva ones to avoid, oh hell. xD

Yep, When you are overloaded with good vibes, everything changes for good!

[Benjamin]

HAHA wow.. I can only imagine what messages a woman would get on that site Maggie. "I love your pic are they real?"

HAHAHA..

Wow.

I've had a bit of success on these sites, ended up with a few women for a while from it, and met a few that were not good. One her pictures looked ok, but when I met her I was like "ahhh" and I felt bad if I just left straight away so spend some time with her.

To give you an idea of her great personality, I asked her what she likes to do and she said "not much.. I really just like to drink beer".



It is funny how people post all the same crap in their profiles "I have a gsoh" "i'm down to earth" (nearly everyone says that) "fun loving" and other crap that means nothing.

Oh and a quick tip, the ones who make a big thing about honesty in their profile are the most dishonest.

If I lived in the city I would have much more luck, I live in a small place so there is not a huge amount to choose from online unfortunately. There is only occasionally that I find someone near me and am like "wow I have to message them".

Unfortunately when I experiment with new things I shouldn't use women close to me, I was learning conversational hypnosis a while ago and just freaked them out as it is a little weird, but I wanted to try anyway.

But I agree with Maggie, I think that AM and SM would be more suited than doing a subliminal just dedicated to online dating.

And I am curious Maggie, why put it in the platonic section?, I see alot of women saying they want friends only on online dating sites when I know it isn't true, i've even seen some who when their profile is new they have 'looking for intimate encounter' (POF) and a week or so later it's changed to 'friends'. I assume this is one way of weeding out certain guys.

-Ben

[massagemaggie]

It may have been confusing: I was talking about my dating from plenty of fish over the years.

The platonic section thing was an ad I put in because I actually wanted to meet people to hang out with, and I enjoy male company. It wasn't a front for an ulterior motive.

You simply have to do a lot of weeding, you're right. Whether it's fast and intuitive or hard laborious work and time consuming effort is up to you I think. I'm pretty good at it, which is great for my job since I meet strangers all the time and have to go to people's homes and hotel rooms.

[Ryan]

You know... I had this idea not too long ago and posted it in for subliminals, Shannon hasn't implemented it yet. But. I think it's a brilliant idea. I can tell you from my success with SM and WM my success online only increased to points of receiving messages and dates without even initiating or doing a damn thing. I cannot say it's because of my photos because yes I have worked on making them the best possible. However, one week a photo can get average result the next it can get the most results. It's a matter of how my mindset is at the present moment and how 'magnetic' I am. I can see the law of attraction works for it as a manifestation and I can say that if you geared the manifestation strictly to online dating and messaging it would boost the results.

My strategy is and always will be. Stand out 100% I do this by writing an arrogant, cocky and manly profile that has to do with me explaining the battle of the sexes and how i am just a male that wants to get into his urges and have lots of sex, use them for sex, and never call them again. Not so disrespectful but I put in a lot of humor to make it very very sarcastic and clever. I also make fun of myself like crazy calling myself a lonely little dude with a huge ego, or a tiny penis, or things like yes I'm pathetic.

It's just all in good fun and you should make it that way.

My best and most successful message would be provocative.

"Hey there, I happened to come across your profile and what I'd really want is to take you out for a drink, perhaps if we click, afterwards, I suppose I'd like to take you to the nearest motel room and screw your brains out"

Many will respond negatively but you can easily defuse it if you play it right (act like you did nothing wrong and she is overreacting/NOT A BITCH) through your sarcastic, fun, joking nature and overall you paint yourself as a man who doesn't care and is just having fun not taking himself or anyone serious. It will attract a lot of fun, humorous women too.

Ryan

[Sean]

A recent experiment showed that even SERIOUSLY unattractive women will get 10x the number of emails as an attractive man will on a singles site. A pretty girl like Maggie will get HUGE numbers of messages. Maggie's success should not make any of the guys on here feel like they're doing anything wrong.

[DrDestiny]

I have had huge success from online dating.

Sounds like it would be a very marketable sub, or program even though other ones should have the same effect, secondarily. Things like alpha male and various self esteem programs. However, I imagine a lot of people want a quick fix solution to get girls to respond, rather than to fundamentally attract women who are actually interested in them as a person. In one way it is a numbers game, but it does not take many people to have a varied, busy and highly satisfying dating and sex life. It just takes some of the right kinds, and more than that is a waste of time and typing.

re: being interesting and charismatic -- you can't really fake it and make women somehow see it, you just have to BE it.

I've noticed the vast majority of messages are just not in my league.
"hey whats up?"
sometimes they'll extend it to "your so sexy, want to chat?"

"wow you are so beautiful, i love your pic, are those real?"

There are mass ones that have obviously been pasted have have nothing to do with my profile or desires. And of course the profiles and pictures themselves.

Not looking for a guy posing topless, or who does not have the self esteem to write something about himself in his profile.

"well im not really good at talking about myself"
"my friends say...."

If you're not on the ball enough to create a profile there is not going to be much success, period.
Every woman is looking for something else. I dismiss needy men loooking for validation, ones who make a fuss about how faithful they are right away, and ones looking for straight out sex.

Men need to know what they're looking for (hot girls to date casually? to F$#? to have a relationship with? marriage?) and then go after it definitively. They're usually too busy whining about how they can't get laid to even be focused on what they do want and allow it to happen.

I recently moved to Canada, put an ad out in the platonic section of Craigslist looking for someone to hang out with and have pints, good conversation, and maybe bike rides or walks.
Only one out of about 100 responses was intelligent and well thought out. I responded to him alone, we met immediately and his actual intelligence and charisma succeeded in making sure I was open to him in many ways. No time wasting or idiocy.

Hi Maggie . You are beautiful ( and i'm going to assume that they are real )

[massagemaggie]

A recent experiment showed that even SERIOUSLY unattractive women will get 10x the number of emails as an attractive man will on a singles site. A pretty girl like Maggie will get HUGE numbers of messages. Maggie's success should not make any of the guys on here feel like they're doing anything wrong.

I probably gave the wrong impression.
When I said success with the sites, I meant in terms of satisfaction rather than number of messages. If you're not satisfied with the results of online dating.. maybe you are doing something wrong. Nothing is wrong with YOU inherently, but it's a fantastic tool and maybe it's not being used to it's full potential by you. And yes, as a man you'll have to use it differently than I do as a woman.

It is a fact that men are going to have to take initiative online and do the message sending. It's rare that I am inspired to send a message, but I do when the profile is compelling enough and I get that intuitive feeling. And to get a response, there has to be a compelling reason to respond.

[Ryan]

You know...practically every woman I've met online told me I was one of the very few to actually meet her. Maggie, how is that with you? Obviously, you have much more confidence, but how many men have you actually met on the site and what made you compelled to meet them?

Obviously, the majority of men on this website send exactly the same messages. The funny thing is...I created many fake female accounts and would literally sit there getting a chat pop-up and refresh to display about 10 unread messages every 5 minutes. It literally got overwhelming I couldn't look at it anymore. But during this, I also messaged back to guys, same typical responses. I got to the point where I would literally copy my response to their questions and paste them in everyone's messages because they would all ask the same question, it would usually go something like this.

My response to their first message of usual "You're beautiful how are you?":

Me: "Hi"
Them: "How are you doing today?"
Me: "Great"
Them: "I see you live in (or from) .... what do you do for fun?"
Me: "Ahh shop"
Them: "Oh cool, I like shopping too"

When I would stop responding here... I'd get more boring questions like "do you like this....?", "any plans for the weekend?", those were also 2 very popular questions within the first 5 e-mails.

Practically every single conversation went exactly the same way. So like I said, I could literally copy my responses to their questions and paste them between messages I was responding to. It seriously was like every man on these sites had the same exact list of questions/conversation tips to e-mailing a woman. It was literally boring the hell out of me and made me wonder...

I would end up asking every guy how many women they've met and how the site was working for them. The majority would say "ahh only fatties respond", "I've gone out with about 2 women and they were nothing I wanted" (when asking why? their number one response was...she was crazy, or looked nothing like her pictures). I would ask "when was your last date?" most would respond maybe a month ago. I asked many how long they were on the site and most responded with "6 months". Out of that 6 months, the majority said they only went on 2 dates during that time and weren't satisfied. One guy, told me he's been on it for 2 weeks and already went on 5 dates. But he honestly didn't stand out to me whatsoever so I don't know if he was being honest.

Ryan

[Sean]

Ryan and Maggie,

What kind of online profiles worked for you? It will be interesting to see both perspectives.

[Ryan]

Mine is very long



Wow! All of my months of hard work, slaved over a computer screen wondering what the hell I should type for my internet dating profile, and here it is. I think you may have just won the lottery!

I’ve pretty much mastered this whole ‘online dating’ scheme. “I’m kind of a big deal”. And yes, I know, I’m a total douche, just keep reading and I’m sure at the end you won’t know whether I’m your arch enemy or you’re future lover. However, it’s no fun when everyone can figure you out.

Mostly, I use this so called ‘online dating’ site for a social outlet from my many hours spent in doors watching a lot of TV or writing my AMAZING book on online dating. Typically, it’s all about chatting online, getting her number and then heading out for a fun time.

A fun time typically includes meeting up at a public place: perhaps coffee, drinks, mini-golf, hookah, or paint classes and if we hit it off…usually ends up ripping each other’s clothes off in my bedroom.

Many may call me arrogant, a player, an ***hole, a bad boy, and the list goes on. However, this type of name calling only feeds my ego and slight narcissistic tendencies that brought me to write such an arrogant profile in the first place.

It amuses me all the countless virgin males on this site messaging girls the same boring and unoriginal messages to these shallow women to only receive some sort of response like “You’re a loser stop messaging me” or is it only me? Don’t answer that.

Look, I’m pretty much a genius. My therapist told me so. You can go ahead and message all the other socially inept dudes on this website and talk about all of your horrible dating disasters with jerks/***holes/douche bags like me and how you want such a nice guy that’s going to give you EVERYTHING you ever wanted. Like a Disney movie where Prince Charming saves you from some fire spitting dragon and ends up getting lucky as the two of you wind up kissing passionately and making love under an apple tree. Isn’t Prince Charming just another guy?

The male brain is wired like this, ladies…you ready? Wait for it.

Men NEED sex to function.

Or else our penises actually shrivel up and turn to dust. True story. And that causes a whole heap of problems.
The thing that I hate the most is the dudes out there that actually try to hide that fact. Like they aren’t actually online hoping to score one of these days, as if…actually our Mothers once taught us at an early age it’s best to put on fake Mr. Nice Guy mask to treat a woman like she is a Princess and maybe you’ll get what you want after all. Actually, the world is a little corrupt in that regard, you ladies have the advantage. Bravo! You should all bow down and thank modern porn.

Or the ones that actually tell you they just want to be your friend or chat online with hopes of you one day falling for them because they are such a nice guy. However, only to discover they were put into the dreaded friend zone and get to be your “boyfriend counselor” from now on.

Then there’s another breed, similar to me but not quite as cool who believe they should act like some Jersey Shore wannabe because apparently women love jerks, yes? Ladies, I feel you, it’s not so much that you like jerks, but you just are sick of all the desperate, lonely nice guys out there that cannot satisfy you in bed. I don’t blame you.

Yes I really just went there.

But in all fairness, I absolutely adore you women. You’re beautiful creatures after all, while some may take that too far, I’ve met my fair share of rare gems. You know, someone who is interesting enough to smoke a pack of cigarettes on the porch with me, talking about all of her past, lame sexual experiences and fantasies. Or the type of woman who can stay up with me watching horror movies all night and not getting too afraid that she has to leave the room and ignore me the rest of the night.

And mostly, I love a woman who has sass, class and ass. What I mean by that. She’s sassy in that she has a little spice to her. She can stand up for herself, can give me sh*twhen I deserve it, and isn’t just another stuck-up goody-goody. Class: she’s a total sweetheart and is more concerned with having a good time rather than how many guys check her out and approach her. And she’s honest in her intentions. She has standards and respect for herself. An ass: something to grab on to.

I cannot believe I’ve actually resorted to writing such an arrogant profile as this, god I’m such a douche.
Now is the time where you decide whether you want to slap me or rip my clothes off. I’ll give you that option. However, think twice before you send me some whacked out hate mail trying to sabotage my ego. It’s not that fragile, ladies. I may get depressed and go cry in my room for a few hours, but as soon as I flip on a good cartoon I’m all laughs and right back to it.

If you believe you can deal with the unpredictable nature of who I am and ready to get in a whole shitload of trouble. (NOTE: Please be ware that I’m looking for more of the advanced product). Shoot me a message and we’ll go rock the **** out.

Ryan

[Tiesto]

LOL! What an awesome profile you got there Ryan! I've never seen anything like it! They can't help getting curious about you after reading that.