Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[HD87]

@Shannon I read that you say Drs wards of and reverses psychic attacks, I was just wondering does the drs in OFv3 or stand alone deal with warding of black magic, spells, evil eye kind of negative energies too?

Sorry If this question has already been asked, I'd dint find it, also I hope asking this question doesn't go against the rules

[Amann]

Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.

If you are using OF, then you can't use any other subliminal with it.  That leaves you with BWE.

OFv3 has state shifting in it.  If you run BWE, the BWE may override the program's state shifting, or vice versa.

However, if you want to achieve deep relaxation, your best bet is going to be one of the states of awareness sets.  There's a simplified one, and one with a lot of different options.  If you use the BWE of Alpha, it will relax you without putting you to sleep.  Theta may or may not put you to sleep, and may make it impossible to focus, but it produces deeper relaxation.  Delta will almost assuredly put you to sleep, and produce the most profound relaxation.

Thanks Shannon. As it may interfere with OF v3...I'll leave it then. Though could it be used on off days? Or would it still interfere?

Absolutley agree Keith...if fear goes down one can relax more. Just wanted something to get into that state a bit more.

[Shannon]

@Shannon I read that you say Drs wards of and reverses psychic attacks, I was just wondering does the drs in OFv3 or stand alone deal with warding of black magic, spells, evil eye kind of negative energies too?

Sorry If this question has already been asked, I'd dint find it, also I hope asking this question doesn't go against the rules

DRS is designed to block and reflect back to it's source in real time 100% of the negative energy that comes to you.  It will do this to whatever degree is possible given the amount of focus your subconscious has on doing this, vs the amount of energy you have to power the shield and the amount of energy that is incoming.

The source and type of energy incoming isn't important; if it is negative and your personal energy field can be made to block and reflect it, then it will be blocked and returned to whence it came as long as you have enough focus on creating and maintaining the shield and enough energy to do so.

Naturally, this means that it will work best when that is the primary focus of the subliminal, and not an addition to support the primary focus.  It is also possible to overwhelm the shield if the incoming energy exceeds the shield's energy input.  You have seen this reported by some people who are under heavy attack when they try to switch from DRS stand alone to something that includes it as support only.

However, it typically requires less energy to reflect the incoming energy than to generate and direct it; so you will have that as an advantage unless you're facing certain specific types of attack, which are rare to say the least.

Furthermore, a group of people sitting close together can all listen to DRS stand alone and effectively generate an umbrella shield, where all of them are protecting themselves and everyone else with their personal shield.  This has an upper limit because physical bodies take up space, but you can do this up to around 17 people if you really pack them together tightly, or around 6-12 otherwise, depending on body type.  This type of shield will be a maximum of the number of people participating times the normal strength, presuming that everyone is sitting or standing within the reflective surface of everyone else's shield, and nobody is generating negative energy themselves.

DRS is a module, and all instances of it use this module.  As a stand alone, it is the focus of the program; as a support module it is not.  But they all have the same capacity and ability; only the level of focus on generating the shield vs doing something else differs.

[Shannon]

Hi @Shannon

What would be the best relaxation sub that you would recommend?

Saw sleep magic but don't want to fall asleep just create a feeling of deep relaxation.

Currently using OF so want to make sure that use of a relaxation wouldn't affect OF.

If you are using OF, then you can't use any other subliminal with it.  That leaves you with BWE.

OFv3 has state shifting in it.  If you run BWE, the BWE may override the program's state shifting, or vice versa.

However, if you want to achieve deep relaxation, your best bet is going to be one of the states of awareness sets.  There's a simplified one, and one with a lot of different options.  If you use the BWE of Alpha, it will relax you without putting you to sleep.  Theta may or may not put you to sleep, and may make it impossible to focus, but it produces deeper relaxation.  Delta will almost assuredly put you to sleep, and produce the most profound relaxation.

Thanks Shannon. As it may interfere with OF v3...I'll leave it then. Though could it be used on off days? Or would it still interfere?

Absolutley agree Keith...if fear goes down one can relax more. Just wanted something to get into that state a bit more.

It's going to have the same impact on says off as it would have during days on.  Remember, the program is still running in your head.

[HD87]

@Shannon I read that you say Drs wards of and reverses psychic attacks, I was just wondering does the drs in OFv3 or stand alone deal with warding of black magic, spells, evil eye kind of negative energies too?

Sorry If this question has already been asked, I'd dint find it, also I hope asking this question doesn't go against the rules

DRS is designed to block and reflect back to it's source in real time 100% of the negative energy that comes to you.  It will do this to whatever degree is possible given the amount of focus your subconscious has on doing this, vs the amount of energy you have to power the shield and the amount of energy that is incoming.

The source and type of energy incoming isn't important; if it is negative and your personal energy field can be made to block and reflect it, then it will be blocked and returned to whence it came as long as you have enough focus on creating and maintaining the shield and enough energy to do so.

Naturally, this means that it will work best when that is the primary focus of the subliminal, and not an addition to support the primary focus.  It is also possible to overwhelm the shield if the incoming energy exceeds the shield's energy input.  You have seen this reported by some people who are under heavy attack when they try to switch from DRS stand alone to something that includes it as support only.

However, it typically requires less energy to reflect the incoming energy than to generate and direct it; so you will have that as an advantage unless you're facing certain specific types of attack, which are rare to say the least.

Furthermore, a group of people sitting close together can all listen to DRS stand alone and effectively generate an umbrella shield, where all of them are protecting themselves and everyone else with their personal shield.  This has an upper limit because physical bodies take up space, but you can do this up to around 17 people if you really pack them together tightly, or around 6-12 otherwise, depending on body type.  This type of shield will be a maximum of the number of people participating times the normal strength, presuming that everyone is sitting or standing within the reflective surface of everyone else's shield, and nobody is generating negative energy themselves.

DRS is a module, and all instances of it use this module.  As a stand alone, it is the focus of the program; as a support module it is not.  But they all have the same capacity and ability; only the level of focus on generating the shield vs doing something else differs.

Thanks @Shannon so if the drs in OFv3 isnt obviously the main module therefore it doesn't focus much on the shield, so you think I can use drs standalone only at times when I think I will need it like before I expect heavy attacks together with my OFv3 that I am currently on,

I know you say not to listen to any other sub, but drs is part of OFv3, but I wanted a stronger one that is solely focused on it?

[Shannon]

@Shannon I read that you say Drs wards of and reverses psychic attacks, I was just wondering does the drs in OFv3 or stand alone deal with warding of black magic, spells, evil eye kind of negative energies too?

Sorry If this question has already been asked, I'd dint find it, also I hope asking this question doesn't go against the rules

DRS is designed to block and reflect back to it's source in real time 100% of the negative energy that comes to you.  It will do this to whatever degree is possible given the amount of focus your subconscious has on doing this, vs the amount of energy you have to power the shield and the amount of energy that is incoming.

The source and type of energy incoming isn't important; if it is negative and your personal energy field can be made to block and reflect it, then it will be blocked and returned to whence it came as long as you have enough focus on creating and maintaining the shield and enough energy to do so.

Naturally, this means that it will work best when that is the primary focus of the subliminal, and not an addition to support the primary focus.  It is also possible to overwhelm the shield if the incoming energy exceeds the shield's energy input.  You have seen this reported by some people who are under heavy attack when they try to switch from DRS stand alone to something that includes it as support only.

However, it typically requires less energy to reflect the incoming energy than to generate and direct it; so you will have that as an advantage unless you're facing certain specific types of attack, which are rare to say the least.

Furthermore, a group of people sitting close together can all listen to DRS stand alone and effectively generate an umbrella shield, where all of them are protecting themselves and everyone else with their personal shield.  This has an upper limit because physical bodies take up space, but you can do this up to around 17 people if you really pack them together tightly, or around 6-12 otherwise, depending on body type.  This type of shield will be a maximum of the number of people participating times the normal strength, presuming that everyone is sitting or standing within the reflective surface of everyone else's shield, and nobody is generating negative energy themselves.

DRS is a module, and all instances of it use this module.  As a stand alone, it is the focus of the program; as a support module it is not.  But they all have the same capacity and ability; only the level of focus on generating the shield vs doing something else differs.

Thanks @Shannon so if the drs in OFv3 isnt obviously the main module therefore it doesn't focus much on the shield, so you think I can use drs standalone only at times when I think I will need it like before I expect heavy attacks together with my OFv3 that I am currently on,

I know you say not to listen to any other sub, but drs is part of OFv3, but I wanted a stronger one that is solely focused on it?

If you have a limited number of units of energy, and you divide it, you are going to get less good results in some direction or directions.  Focusing on OF and having a shield that works to balance it's benefits with minimizing the distraction from OF is going to mean the shield isn't super powerful.  If you then start running DRS, you're going to be trying to focus completely on DRS.  Theoretically, that will shift all your energy to DRS and OF will start to lose momentum.

But that is only theoretical.  That's what would have been true before 5.75.7G.  Now, we're working with a different ball game.  So that possibility is still there, but there is now another possibility.  5.75.7G and later will dominate and destroy anything and everything that is 5.75.6G or lower.  At best, in this scenario, you're going to overload yourself and be exhausted.  This may mean that switching to DRS stand alone will fail to do anything but drop you like a rock from exhaustion (the likely best case scenario).  The inertia and force of the 5.75.7G subliminal or later may be such that it simply overrides the attempt, keeps going, and you run yourself into the ground trying to use more energy than you have.

So the answer is, I'm not sure in this case.  I haven't tried it.  But there's a good reason why I don't recommend trying to use anything with a 5.75.x G subliminal especially if it's 5.75.7G or higher.  I did an experiment while playing OFv3 for 1 loop per day on, 2 days on, 3 days off.  On Day 1 of bloom, I had my phone run another program (5.75.xG) for a little more than 1 loop.  The next day, my phone decided to run a different sub again for 23 minutes before I caught it.  23 minutes... and these 1.3 loops of "something else" left me so exhausted that I was unable to function for almost a week, even through caffeine.  

Not saying that would happen to everyone... but it underscores how demanding and powerful the new subs are, and how much of your total resources they demand to run.

So proceed at your own risk if you try to mix subliminals..

[josh84]

Hi Shannon with the drs in of, if the other person is drunk will it even bother them. because if someone is drunk they dont know what they are doing or saying so any shield sending back those negative vibes would they even notice it?

[DarthXedonias]

@Shannon Hey Shannon thanks for the other reply. It was actually quite informative and I will be screenshotting it. Also sorry for mention that other subject as I didn't even know it was under the category of "magic".

I did have some last few things to ask before I put up the thread. Would astral projection and remote viewing be more likely abilities to achieve with the subs? What in your opinion is the difference between both or are they the same thing?

I was thinking also of adding cyber kinesis / technopathy to that list which I think would be one of those exotic ones you talked about that would take years to develop like maybe pyrokinsis?

[Shannon]

@Shannon Hey Shannon thanks for the other reply. It was actually quite informative and I will be screenshotting it. Also sorry for mention that other subject as I didn't even know it was under the category of "magic".

I did have some last few things to ask before I put up the thread. Would astral projection and remote viewing be more likely abilities to achieve with the subs? What in your opinion is the difference between both or are they the same thing?

I was thinking also of adding cyber kinesis / technopathy to that list which I think would be one of those exotic ones you talked about that would take years to develop like maybe pyrokinsis?

Astral projection can be aided, but making it happen is not so simple as flipping a switch.  It usually requires the alignment of multiple significant factors.  Remote viewing is clairvoyance.  I can do that but that has certain risks I'd like to avoid, and figuring out how would take an uncertain amount of time.  Astral projection is not clairvoyance.  Clairvoyance sends a part of your awareness to another location, but astral projection is when an entire body or cluster of bodies eject from the physical body.

Cyberkinesis and pyrokineses, really?  You think that would sell?  Nobody who bought it would be patient enough to get the results.  On top of that, you have to always consider the dark side.  How is someone going to misuse this?  Because unfortunately, there's a lot of people who can't do anything without trying to make it negative, destructive, misuse it or weaponize it.  I'd rather not help them.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon with the drs in of, if the other person is drunk  will it even bother them. because if someone is drunk they dont know what they are doing or saying so any shield sending back those negative vibes would they even notice it?

It depends on how drunk and what the energy is/is doing.  In some cases yes, in some cases no.  Alcohol in high enough concentration acts as an anaesthetic for some senses.  But if they're too drunk to feel it, they're usually too drunk to send it.

[ncbeareatingman]

Shannon,when/ if you getta chance check out my latest post in my journal....some feedback....from yesterday...

[DarthXedonias]

Astral projection can be aided, but making it happen is not so simple as flipping a switch.  It usually requires the alignment of multiple significant factors.  Remote viewing is clairvoyance.  I can do that but that has certain risks I'd like to avoid, and figuring out how would take an uncertain amount of time.  Astral projection is not clairvoyance.  Clairvoyance sends a part of your awareness to another location, but astral projection is when an entire body or cluster of bodies eject from the physical body.

Cyberkinesis and pyrokineses, really?  You think that would sell?  Nobody who bought it would be patient enough to get the results.  On top of that, you have to always consider the dark side.  How is someone going to misuse this?  Because unfortunately, there's a lot of people who can't do anything without trying to make it negative, destructive, misuse it or weaponize it.  I'd rather not help them.

@Shannon Eh, I might be an outlier but I know I would be willing to dedicate myself to years to listen to one sub if I had to in this instance but I do see your point and the potential bad sides. So from what you've said so far it seem like the most easier and simple ones to put on that list is Telekinesis, Telepathy and Remote view. I did look at a few others that might , at least on the surface look more simple to accomplish. Wouldn't know for sure as you might know better. Those were Psychic surgery (kind of energy healing I guess since I've had heard of this one), Retrocognition, and Psychometry. I was thinking of adding some kind of psychic enhanced intelligence or supernatural intelligence but even though I saw that somewhere I'm not sure if that one is possible or if that is just plain high level IQ. I mean I had heard of some intelligent people who's intelligence was so high it seemed almost supernatural though I'm not even sure if psychic powers can enhance intelligence or boost it itself. Anyway, I might make the thread later tonight or tomorrow when I have time. If you have any other suggestions or input then it would very well appreciated as I have learned a lot from your replies already. If not thanks for your replies so far.

[Zeroxmachina]

Astral projection can be aided, but making it happen is not so simple as flipping a switch.  It usually requires the alignment of multiple significant factors.  Remote viewing is clairvoyance.  I can do that but that has certain risks I'd like to avoid, and figuring out how would take an uncertain amount of time.  Astral projection is not clairvoyance.  Clairvoyance sends a part of your awareness to another location, but astral projection is when an entire body or cluster of bodies eject from the physical body.

Cyberkinesis and pyrokineses, really?  You think that would sell?  Nobody who bought it would be patient enough to get the results.  On top of that, you have to always consider the dark side.  How is someone going to misuse this?  Because unfortunately, there's a lot of people who can't do anything without trying to make it negative, destructive, misuse it or weaponize it.  I'd rather not help them.

@Shannon  Eh, I might be an outlier but I know I would be willing to dedicate myself to years to listen to one sub if I had to in this instance but I do see your point and the potential bad sides. So from what you've said so far it seem like the most easier and simple ones to put on that list is Telekinesis, Telepathy and Remote view. I did look at a few others that might , at least on the surface look more simple to accomplish. Wouldn't know for sure as you might know better. Those were Psychic surgery (kind of energy healing I guess since I've had heard of this one), Retrocognition, and Psychometry. I was thinking of adding some kind of psychic enhanced intelligence or supernatural intelligence but even though I saw that somewhere I'm not sure if that one is possible or if that is just plain high level IQ. I mean I had heard of some intelligent people who's intelligence was so high it seemed almost supernatural though I'm not even sure if psychic powers can enhance intelligence or boost it itself. Anyway, I might make the thread later tonight or tomorrow when I have time. If you have any other suggestions or input then it would very well appreciated as I have learned a lot from your replies already. If not thanks for your replies so far.

This is kinda an aside, but do remember that MLS actively has pineal gland decalcification as one of it's functions, if you're looking for the sub that would assist you in these types of things the most right now, its probably that one.

[samba99]

Shannon,

hope you doing well,
Can we get little update on UMSv2? how is it looking so far? are you looking forward to any specific part of the program and the way it works?

you used to give alot more details behind the technology and the things you put into a program, that was very good for giving awareness as well as generating higher sales. I hope you share more as you used to back in the development of DMSI and beast