Shannon's Journal Discussion Thread, Vol. 5

[Shannon]

Of course you guys don't care. But time is money. The longer I have to work before getting paid, the less I am getting paid per unit of time. And between that and inflation and our artificially low prices and the lack of income basically standing in my way of fixing the basic issues causing these problems... well I may not have a choice in when or if it gets pre-order.

[CatMan]

Of course you guys don't care. But time is money. The longer I have to work before getting paid, the less I am getting paid per unit of time. And between that and inflation and our artificially low prices and the lack of income basically standing in my way of fixing the basic issues causing these problems... well I may not have a choice in when or if it gets pre-order.

LMAO!

I laughed at that too. They misinterpreted your "but I'm sure you guys don't care about that" section of your post.

My idea before for you and UMS was to work to the point of having two stages done, then release the first one. That way, you're giving yourself a solid buffer of time, so it isn't nearly as rushed as LTU was. That was awful.

I tried to hook you up with another revenue stream with OF V3. Going forward, maybe we can come up with something else. It seems you need a bridge between where you are, and UMS V2. As that's going to be quite a project. We'll think of something.

Sorry about your steak. I've noticed a lot of stuff has slipped in quality during this fiasco of ours. People try their best, but most things aren't the same for a variety of reasons. Maybe give them another shot.

[Shannon]

Of course you guys don't care.  But time is money.  The longer I have to work before getting paid, the less I am getting paid per unit of time.  And between that and inflation and our artificially low prices and the lack of income basically standing in my way of fixing the basic issues causing these problems... well I may not have a choice in when or if it gets pre-order.

LMAO!

I laughed at that too. They misinterpreted your "but I'm sure you guys don't care about that" section of your post.

My idea before for you and UMS was to work to the point of having two stages done, then release the first one. That way, you're giving yourself a solid buffer of time, so it isn't nearly as rushed as LTU was. That was awful.

I tried to hook you up with another revenue stream with OF V3. Going forward, maybe we can come up with something else. It seems you need a bridge between where you are, and UMS V2. As that's going to be quite a project. We'll think of something.

Sorry about your steak. I've noticed a lot of stuff has slipped in quality during this fiasco of ours. People try their best, but most things aren't the same for a variety of reasons. Maybe give them another shot.

The issue is that instead of 4-5 days, OFv3 took a month.  And that was partly the figuring of the script, and partly the figuring of the new build and partly building the new monstrosity.  

Upgrading UMS v2 to FRM 5.0 isn't really a big deal; I just copy and paste the new script.  The issue is that now I have to go back and re-calculate the configuration for it, and that's nothing to sneeze at.  Neither is calculating the config for the key script, or anything else that requires configuration in this new gen.  Add to that the difficulty I have been having with the models lately, and the fact that taking pre-orders for the whole set will mean I have to build at least 2 subs per month, a la LTUv6, and we are now looking at either I only build it as a single stage or I spend the next 4 months building it.

I don't see a good way out of this.

[CatMan]

Of course you guys don't care.  But time is money.  The longer I have to work before getting paid, the less I am getting paid per unit of time.  And between that and inflation and our artificially low prices and the lack of income basically standing in my way of fixing the basic issues causing these problems... well I may not have a choice in when or if it gets pre-order.

LMAO!

I laughed at that too. They misinterpreted your "but I'm sure you guys don't care about that" section of your post.

My idea before for you and UMS was to work to the point of having two stages done, then release the first one. That way, you're giving yourself a solid buffer of time, so it isn't nearly as rushed as LTU was. That was awful.

I tried to hook you up with another revenue stream with OF V3. Going forward, maybe we can come up with something else. It seems you need a bridge between where you are, and UMS V2. As that's going to be quite a project. We'll think of something.

Sorry about your steak. I've noticed a lot of stuff has slipped in quality during this fiasco of ours. People try their best, but most things aren't the same for a variety of reasons. Maybe give them another shot.

The issue is that instead of 4-5 days, OFv3 took a month.  And that was partly the figuring of the script, and partly the figuring of the new build and partly building the new monstrosity.  

Upgrading UMS v2 to FRM 5.0 isn't really a big deal; I just copy and paste the new script.  The issue is that now I have to go back and re-calculate the configuration for it, and that's nothing to sneeze at.  Neither is calculating the config for the key script, or anything else that requires configuration in this new gen.  Add to that the difficulty I have been having with the models lately, and the fact that taking pre-orders for the whole set will mean I have to build at least 2 subs per month, a la LTUv6, and we are now looking at either I only build it as a single stage or I spend the next 4 months building it.

I don't see a good way out of this.

I hear you. Hopefully a lot of the awkwardness in creation was simply dealing with new technology, learning as you go. Now with more experience, the production time should be less.

One option is to use the programs inside the script, to sell as stand-alones as you go. That's a possibility, more PITA factor, and with respect, always results in added problems and delays and doesn't really seem to add up to more programs to sell in the meantime.

Really though, my approach would probably boil down to taking the time, doing it right, selling it stage by stage after having two stages ready to give yourself good lead time, and just upping the price to balance out the extra work. If they don't want that, then forget adding 5.75.7G tech and greatly streamline it. They can't have it both ways. Me knowing you as the perfectionist you are though, the option I just gave above is probably the best one and most likely to come to be.

[Qiel]

Of course you guys don't care.  But time is money.  The longer I have to work before getting paid, the less I am getting paid per unit of time.  And between that and inflation and our artificially low prices and the lack of income basically standing in my way of fixing the basic issues causing these problems... well I may not have a choice in when or if it gets pre-order.

LMAO!

I laughed at that too. They misinterpreted your "but I'm sure you guys don't care about that" section of your post.

My idea before for you and UMS was to work to the point of having two stages done, then release the first one. That way, you're giving yourself a solid buffer of time, so it isn't nearly as rushed as LTU was. That was awful.

I tried to hook you up with another revenue stream with OF V3. Going forward, maybe we can come up with something else. It seems you need a bridge between where you are, and UMS V2. As that's going to be quite a project. We'll think of something.

Sorry about your steak. I've noticed a lot of stuff has slipped in quality during this fiasco of ours. People try their best, but most things aren't the same for a variety of reasons. Maybe give them another shot.

The issue is that instead of 4-5 days, OFv3 took a month.  And that was partly the figuring of the script, and partly the figuring of the new build and partly building the new monstrosity.  

Upgrading UMS v2 to FRM 5.0 isn't really a big deal; I just copy and paste the new script.  The issue is that now I have to go back and re-calculate the configuration for it, and that's nothing to sneeze at.  Neither is calculating the config for the key script, or anything else that requires configuration in this new gen.  Add to that the difficulty I have been having with the models lately, and the fact that taking pre-orders for the whole set will mean I have to build at least 2 subs per month, a la LTUv6, and we are now looking at either I only build it as a single stage or I spend the next 4 months building it.

I don't see a good way out of this.

I vote for the staged UMS. I'm interested seeing the manifestation of staged UMS. Staged 5.75.7G, with super minimal loop and maximum power. What else could I ask. It's like using gameshark in real life, so please take your time and don't rush. Please make it as ripe as possible like OF v3. Thank you very much.

[ncbeareatingman]

I understood completely what you meant and didnt misinterpit anything, what I was saying was its ok with us ,if you take your time, Me coming from a place of compassion, about you,as you've worked so hard,so much lately and in the last 6 months,etc, that its OK to do what you need to to do self care ,NOT I dont give damn,kind of I dont care....like the other fella said so well 'make it(UMSv2) as ripe as you need to,like you did with OFv3".
I understand your need to balance time,energy,resources and the need for income,that is a given.
Compassion and Understanding was where I was coming from and some other Men ,here as well,Im pretty,shure,Shannon.

I hope you can get the much needed rest ,you indeed, need,after that major over load of the very powerful Brand spankin' new OFv3. The Aura of Love is VERY special. Peace,Love and Light to ALL!!
The journey continues

[Shannon]

I understood completely what you meant and didnt misinterpit anything, what I was saying was its ok with us ,if you take your time, Me coming from a place of compassion, about you,as you've worked so hard,so much lately and in the last 6 months,etc, that its OK to do what you need to to do self care ,NOT I dont give  damn,kind of I dont care....like the other fella said so well 'make it(UMSv2) as ripe as you need to,like you did with OFv3".
 I understand your need to balance time,energy,resources and the need for income,that is a given.
Compassion and Understanding was where I was coming from and some other Men ,here as well,Im pretty,shure,Shannon.

I hope you can get the much needed rest ,you indeed, need,after that major over load of the very powerful Brand spankin' new OFv3.   The Aura of Love is VERY special. Peace,Love and Light to ALL!!
The journey continues

I know it was a compassionate expression Keith, and that is appreciated. Im just saying that taking all the time might kill my ability to keep things afloat at this point unless I offer pre orders, and that doesn't solve the issue in the long term either.

[Raz]

@Shannon, how would you classify this soundscape? Is this sitting at the edge of liminal to subliminal? Can you use this somehow?

Cheers and thanks for OFv3!

[Weichi]

2 Days with OFv3 Masked, So far smooth, there was no sign of resistance, no emotional turmoil like the initial use of OFv2.

Same here.

Sane here, a litle bit emotional but not too much.

[Qiel]

2 Days with OFv3 Masked, So far smooth, there was no sign of resistance, no emotional turmoil like the initial use of OFv2.

Same here.

Sane here, a litle bit emotional but not too much.

Different here. Feel emotionless. But I really like the feeling.

[SouthPaw]

Hi Shannon you were saying you wanted to make a few aura subs. Please make an aura of sexiness sub. It's one of my favourite subs.

[Shannon]

@Shannon, how would you classify this soundscape? Is this sitting at the edge of liminal to subliminal? Can you use this somehow?

Cheers and thanks for OFv3!

This is entirely "liminal".  I would classify it as "experimental/strange".  I have no way to use it.

[Shannon]

Hi Shannon you were saying you wanted to make a few aura subs.  Please make an aura of sexiness sub.  It's one of my favourite subs.

At the moment I have to build UMS v2 and Natural Lyric & Songwriting.  I also would like to work on an experimental, but who has time?  Especially considering that after that last build I have to presume that each one will require 2-4 weeks, most likely more than less.  When we catch up I'll be building more aura subs.

[ncbeareatingman]

Once you've recover sufficiently recovered mentally,energywise....here;s something to think about Shannon.....

Shannon the answer's right in front of YOU, Man... I know yu're tired,burned out,etc. understood but check this out Man

UMS
build the bloody thing
MAKE IT a MONSTER

Bamm,solutions to money problems solved and dissolving along the way
Hell make that Mf'ker so bad ass it not only becomes UMSv3 'er somethin', but ,you'll need a damn cigarette to smoke after listening to it!!
( for those that dont get the humour, here's another one from the '90's , TV show in Living Colour " Yo Mama so Fat after sex she smoked a TURKEY!!")
Ha!!