Overcome Fear V2 - Four months in Colombia (back in Vancouver now)

[Ampersnd]

So update, I’ve had sex with four women, been on dates with 5 or 6 women. Gotten 15+ numbers.

I have been dating this one women and we been on four or five dates. We might end up making it official soon.

Things have been great I’m here until  May 7 then I’m coming back in September for 8 months.

I love overcome fear it’s helped me with allot of my issues and I’m not perfect yet but I am allot better then where I started from.

Awesome.

Fear is also definately at the core of women issues. I remember reading something that said basically most pua stuff is simply adding on complexity to the simple fact that we fear doing or saying certain things so we have to add this bullshit to try to get around that fear, for example the fear of actually expressing interest and what she might think.. so they tell us to act like we aren't interested and all kinds of other weird stuff that makes us robotic.

I've been realizing this more and more. It's a tap dance around your insecurities instead of facing and owning up to them directly. You're meant to drain the power out of your fears, etc. not create a false sense of security (lines, routines, body language "hacks") to avoid facing them. Some pick up frameworks are good for understanding male-female dynamics, why women shit test, etc.

In short, if you don't feel some buzz of sexual arousal when approaching an attractive woman, not only do you have emotional hangups, but you will probably mess up the conversation because the woman is moreso talking to a robot than a feeling person.

[Omni3]

In short, if you don't feel some buzz of sexual arousal when approaching an attractive woman, not only do you have emotional hangups, but you will probably mess up the conversation because the woman is moreso talking to a robot than a feeling person.

Bingo!!!

[Raykon]

What your saying is true, but I had to put in hours of texting with these women, and deal with many different obstacles on the way, and face to face on the date I was super grounded and confident and attractive. 

Yes beings foreigner does peak initial interest, but if your needy and in your head you will not be successful, and thanks man I will update more 

You must be doing something else beside OF V2 to get these results? 

Being in Colombia.

In this very thread I had predicted it would happen. I know the culture and I know how they react to foreigners. That’s not to say that our lucky friend isn’t attractive of course, or that OF didn’t help, but the chances of success are many times higher for a foreigner in Latin America. 

GOOD FOR YOU BRO, you might end up spending a significant amount of your future life there. That’s what I am doing 

And thanks for the update, reading about good results always feels good.

[Raykon]

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I 100% agree, I used to be a terrible texter most of my life because I overthought everything, overcome fear has allowed me to express my natural personality and vulnerabilities without fear of rejection or loss. I have become way more genuine and attactive because of this. I had already started to act his way before overcome fear because one of my friends who’s banged hundreds of women told me to stop with the manipulative pua stuff and talk to them like a friend. Or human being. That being said, overcome fear has made me even more natural and congruent and not worry about my messages and reread them over and over like I used to in the past.  

So update, I’ve had sex with four women, been on dates with 5 or 6 women. Gotten 15+ numbers.

I have been dating this one women and we been on four or five dates. We might end up making it official soon.

Things have been great I’m here until  May 7 then I’m coming back in September for 8 months.

I love overcome fear it’s helped me with allot of my issues and I’m not perfect yet but I am allot better then where I started from.

Awesome.

Fear is also definately at the core of women issues. I remember reading something that said basically most pua stuff is simply adding on complexity to the simple fact that we fear doing or saying certain things so we have to add this bullshit to try to get around that fear, for example the fear of actually expressing interest and what she might think.. so they tell us to act like we aren't interested and all kinds of other weird stuff that makes us robotic.

[Raykon]

I’m actually moving here for 8 months of every year and going back to Vancouver Canada every summer to run my Hao was and make money (Landscaping)

You must be doing something else beside OF V2 to get these results? 

Being in Colombia.

In this very thread I had predicted it would happen. I know the culture and I know how they react to foreigners. That’s not to say that our lucky friend isn’t attractive of course, or that OF didn’t help, but the chances of success are many times higher for a foreigner in Latin America. 

GOOD FOR YOU BRO, you might end up spending a significant amount of your future life there. That’s what I am doing 

And thanks for the update, reading about good results always feels good.

[Raykon]

Version 2 is more powerful, I also use a releasing technique that releases negative emotions when they arise and feelings of shame and sadness or anger. 

It’s a form of meditation specifically designed to releas negative emotions. 

I know it works because everytime I do it I start yawning like crazy and feel mentally and physically lighter after like the negativity left my body. 

I know a few succcesful life coaches that do this technique one of them taught me. 

It’s called releasing, I believe tapping also works. 

So update, I’ve had sex with four women, been on dates with 5 or 6 women. Gotten 15+ numbers.

I have been dating this one women and we been on four or five dates. We might end up making it official soon.

Things have been great I’m here until  May 7 then I’m coming back in September for 8 months.

I love overcome fear it’s helped me with allot of my issues and I’m not perfect yet but I am allot better then where I started from.

You must be doing something else beside OF V2 to get these results? 

I have been doing OF V1 for 4 months and don't notice anything.

[Raykon]

It’s interesting because I’ve banged four women but the one that I’ve been talking to the most (since the first week) 2 months now, and been on 4-5 dates and met her dad and grandma. She hasn’t put out yet, she’s making me wait. The most I got was making out and licked her boobs once. And briefly touched her pussy with my hand and had her bare butt showing.

My cousin who lives in Bogotá says good girls here will make you wait until they know your 100 Percent serious About a relationship with them. He said it’s normal. And to not worry. The sex is going to be so great. This is the one that we are talking about becoming official potentionally if we continue to date and things go well like they have, our last date was ten hours long. We both have a pitbull named after dragon ball z, mine is named Goku hers is named Yamcha.

And we both have two big dogs. We’re similar in allot of ways.

[Shannon]

It’s interesting because I’ve banged four women but the one that I’ve been talking to the most (since the first week) 2 months now, and been on 4-5 dates and met her dad and grandma. She hasn’t put out yet, she’s making me wait. The most I got was making out and licked her boobs once. And briefly touched her pussy with my hand and had her bare butt showing.

My cousin who lives in Bogotá says good girls here will make you wait until they know your 100 Percent serious About a relationship with them. He said it’s normal. And to not worry. The sex is going to be so great. This is the one that we are talking about becoming official potentionally if we continue to date and things go well like they have, our last date was ten hours long. We both have a pitbull named after dragon ball z, mine is named Goku hers is named Yamcha.

And we both have two big dogs. We’re similar in allot of ways.

A woman like the one you're describing who makes you wait for sex in a serious committed relationship is usually one who has self respect and self esteem.  She's also got self control and she's not very likely going to sleep around on you.  They're usually great wife material.  That said...

If she wants to wait until marriage to have sex is a lot different than if she wants to wait until a committed relationship for sex.  In my opinion, waiting for marriage to have sex, while good in theory, is usually a bad idea in actual practice because it removes one of the most important aspects of determining one's long term compatibility with someone, which is sexual compatibility, and delays it until after you can't easily choose someone else.  I believe it's very important to know how sexually compatible you are with each other before making a permanent commitment like marriage.  Marriages usually end because of either lack of money, or one person not having their sexual needs met by the other.  

So if she's waiting for a committed non-marriage relationship for sex, that's good.  If she wants marriage before sex... I would think long and hard on that one.

And just because she seems like a good long term relationship candidate doesn't mean the sex will be great, or even good.  Let go of that expectation, because it's possible that you are completely incompatible sexually for any number of reasons.  You can't know how good the sex will be until you've had sex with her several times at least.  So I suggest you take a neutral stance of "no expectations and no knowledge" on sex until you have first hand verification.

Best wishes.  I hope she is what she seems to be.  It would be nice to see you find a serious, happy relationship that satisfies you more than sex for fun does.

[Raykon]

So after our 6th date ( we had sex finally) it was great. We spent the last 40 of 48 hours together. She’s coming over again tonight and we’re going to have sex and cuddle and each dragon ball z (we’re not dragon ball fans) also she is also a rapper like me. She freestyles too.

I met her aunt (which is closer with her then her mom she said) two days ago. So I’ve met her aunt dad and grandma now.

[Shannon]

So this looks promising. Congratulations, man!

[Raykon]

I partied all night with some new friends I made and the next day (today) at 2pm I ended up getting laid unexpectedly. It was very random what happened and I don’t want to go into the details because it’s too personal but let’s just say I had one of craziest experiences of my life.  Overcome fear is fucking insane!!!!!!!!!

That’s six women now that I’ve had sex with since coming to Colombia, I’ve been here three months and have one more month to go.

[GreekGod22]

Glad to see folks are getting laid on OFv2. Makes me even more convinced to start the sub in the near future.

[Shannon]

I partied all night with some new friends I made and the next day (today) at 2pm I ended up getting laid unexpectedly. It was very random what happened and I don’t want to go into the details because it’s too personal but let’s just say I had one of craziest experiences of my life.  Overcome fear is fucking insane!!!!!!!!!

That’s six women now that I’ve had sex with since coming to Colombia, I’ve been here three months and have one more month to go.

What are Colombian women like in general?

[Raykon]

Colombian women are completely feminine, beautiful , they have allot of personality & they are very sexy. They are also very kind and polite.  They all know how to dance and allot of them sing.

I partied all night with some new friends I made and the next day (today) at 2pm I ended up getting laid unexpectedly. It was very random what happened and I don’t want to go into the details because it’s too personal but let’s just say I had one of craziest experiences of my life.  Overcome fear is fucking insane!!!!!!!!!

That’s six women now that I’ve had sex with since coming to Colombia, I’ve been here three months and have one more month to go.

What are Colombian women like in general?