Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Kol]

@Shannon

My last update in my thread contains some questions and suggestions. Im mindblown by this sub. Its the first post on page 10.

Thank you in advance and thank you for your great work.

[Shadow2200]

@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...

• Prevent unwanted conception.
  
• Improve anti-STD programming.
  
• Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  
• Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  
• Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  
• Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  
• Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  
• Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  
• Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  
• Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.
  

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

Hello Shannon. Hope you've been keeping well, even though you're rushed off your feet doing research and building new subliminals.

I want to share a possible success story so you may be able to get some information from the usage of 3.2, for further development of 3.3. More background information can be found https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...-2-Journal-

I have started dating a girl at work the last month and got my first kiss. I am not sure where it is going now, as there may me an issue of how much relationship experience we have.

I was wondering whether there was in something in 3.2 which might affect how much experience the user is seen to have. The girl who is interested in me has only been in one serious relationship.

There was some posts from users about issues with younger girls.

So maybe in 3.3 have something about the affected person being ok with the users experience or lack of experience in relationships.

I am not sure if this is covered in 3.2, but two girls in the department have been instrumental in informing the girl was interested in me originally. It makes things a lot easier having a little support team trying to help you in dating one of their colleagues in their department.

The effect on the affected is basically designed to trigger irresistible sexual arousal, party by creating an energy field that causes the affected to perceive you that way. If that means they assume a specific amount of experience for you to be that exceptional, then that's what will probably happen. The aura does have a reset button so to speak, but if she is assuming you will do X and you don't, you may not end up where you want to be.

It is obvious that DMSI is likely helping (interest and assistance), but isn't triggering her enough to move on her own and may not be overcoming her internal assumptions and limiting beliefs. A lot of women assume that if a guy doesn't do what they expect, he's not interested, or he's not what they thought (assumed) he was. I have seen women shoot themselves in the foot and kick themselves right out of perfectly good relationships dozens of times by assuming things like this and then either being closed minded or never realizing how they were self limiting and destroyed their chances.

V3.3 is going to see a lot of work on the aura and should help with this significantly.

Shannon i did have a question being your subs are so strong and well made it's pretty easy to tell what some of the improvements might need to be. For example i remember the topic of noticing the aura needed some teaks like a month after the problem was released. So giving how powerful these new versions are over the old ones it id sure only take like a 1 to 3 months max before a update or additions. So there's no huge gaps between new versions. Do you expect it will be quite some time before 3.4 is released?

[Shannon]

@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...

• Prevent unwanted conception.
  
• Improve anti-STD programming.
  
• Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  
• Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  
• Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  
• Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  
• Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  
• Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  
• Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  
• Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.
  

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

Hello Shannon. Hope you've been keeping well, even though you're rushed off your feet doing research and building new subliminals.

I want to share a possible success story so you may be able to get some information from the usage of 3.2, for further development of 3.3. More background information can be found https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s...-2-Journal-

I have started dating a girl at work the last month and got my first kiss. I am not sure where it is going now, as there may me an issue of how much relationship experience we have.

I was wondering whether there was in something in 3.2 which might affect how much experience the user is seen to have. The girl who is interested in me has only been in one serious relationship.

There was some posts from users about issues with younger girls.

So maybe in 3.3 have something about the affected person being ok with the users experience or lack of experience in relationships.

I am not sure if this is covered in 3.2, but two girls in the department have been instrumental in informing the girl was interested in me originally. It makes things a lot easier having a little support team trying to help you in dating one of their colleagues in their department.

The effect on the affected is basically designed to trigger irresistible sexual arousal, party by creating an energy field that causes the affected to perceive you that way. If that means they assume a specific amount of experience for you to be that exceptional, then that's what will probably happen. The aura does have a reset button so to speak, but if she is assuming you will do X and you don't, you may not end up where you want to be.

It is obvious that DMSI is likely helping (interest and assistance), but isn't triggering her enough to move on her own and may not be overcoming her internal assumptions and limiting beliefs. A lot of women assume that if a guy doesn't do what they expect, he's not interested, or he's not what they thought (assumed) he was. I have seen women shoot themselves in the foot and kick themselves right out of perfectly good relationships dozens of times by assuming things like this and then either being closed minded or never realizing how they were self limiting and destroyed their chances.

V3.3 is going to see a lot of work on the aura and should help with this significantly.

Shannon i did have a question being your subs are so strong and well made it's pretty easy to tell what some of the improvements might need to be. For example i remember the topic of noticing the aura needed some teaks like a month after the problem was released. So giving how powerful these new versions are over the old ones it id sure only take like a 1 to 3 months max before a update or additions. So there's no huge gaps between new versions. Do you expect it will be quite some time before 3.4 is released?

I don't know exactly how things are going to work out. I do know that:

I'm done with my rest of 2 days after today.
I'm going to build one more sub before I start working on DMSI 3.3.
DMSI 3.3 will probably take between 1 and 2 months to build, given what I want to put in it.
After 3.3 comes out, I want to build a number of other programs and observe results of 3.3 for a while before I work on it again.

[Oversoul]

How would we know when 'reality bending' is happening?

Can somebody give examples please?

[DarthXedonias]

How would we know when 'reality bending' is happening?

Can somebody give examples please?

I can give a "little" bit of insight into this though it will be hard to explain when I realized Reality bending was happening. I noticed this mostly on 3.1. I noticed i might be doing something normally then all of a sudden i would have this kind of "rush" like feeling going through my mind. I would automatically say in my mind, "Something is happening". When the rush type feeling would go away I would think something was different. Like I could look at my surroundings and have this feeling that things looked "different". Either that or my perceptions of my surroundings changed.

This did get to ridiculous and almost psychic like levels in some ways. I remember I got the rushing feeling one time while I was fixing something at work and mind you I'm in a corner somewhere so I can't really see anyone else working near my area. I get that feeling and automatically its like something in my head said, "She's coming". The she was a young girl who just graduated from High-school who was heavily getting affected by 3.1 (before reversal resistance kicked in). Like 3 seconds after I had said that she turned the corner and engaged me in conversation. It was quite interesting. I haven't really gotten those same intuitions on 3.2 sadly. Granted I think that might be due to the fact that the part of my subconscious that fears the results of the program was artificially nullifying any attraction I had towards any woman.

[Shannon]

How would we know when 'reality bending' is happening?

Can somebody give examples please?

Reality bending is a technology designed to cause the goals of the program to be achieved as quickly and smoothly and successfully as possible.

If you execute the script, and it works, you achieve the goals of the program. Quickly. Regardless of how "unlikely" it is to happen.

So as an example, go read the forum quotes about DMSI 3.1 and 3.2. Off the top of my head, Thor was a pretty good example.

[Williamx25]

@Shannon I used MLS 5.5G for 3 months, i would insist on this sub for 3 more months but i have a super important deadline in 18 days and can't afford to wait for the sub to take effect. I brought UM/OP, that's what i need now, i can't take a break, what can i expect?

You can expect that there will be severe turbulence between those two programs. For a period of time, they will both be running in your head and you will probably experience confusion, exhaustion and overload with possible headaches and very probably inconsistent results. Once that fades, whatever sub you're using will dominate and start functioning normally.

Talking about disruption, I tried those sleepheadphones for the first time. I went to sleep at 23:00 PM and I woke up at 04:00-04:30 AM The sleepheadphones felt a bit uncomfortable and I took the sleepheadband off and went back to sleep... I was at 5.5 loops so I stopped listening in the middle of a loop... I woke up at 09:00 AM and I want to listen further to make my full 8 hours of listening because that was the plan. Is this possible? Or should I just wait for tonight to do another round? Will this disrupt anything?

Could someone give me advice on this? Will the program be disruptive now or without effects because I missed a half loop? How should I proceed from now on :angel:

a few seconds disruption to just less than a minute is fine and should be fine but anything more than a minute then you've taken a break and so stop. This was the advice I got many weeks or months ago.

So continue tonight as normal for todays listen.

Also I tried sleepheadphones and they were very painful and I hated them so never used them.

Okay so if I quit my listening session in the middle of the night with 5 and a half loops already done I shouldn’t continue to listen for the full 8 hours right? I should just leave it at that number of loops for that night and wait until the next night starts.

It’s 1:48 AM atm in my country and i’m going to sleep. Have my sleepheAdphones on, and I hope it will be more comfortable during this night. If I take it off again during my sleep while in the middle of a loop then I should just wait for the next night to start over again. Am I right?

It would be really inconvenient to listen for 8 hours daily while awake... You have to watch your earbuds constantly, if they don’t fall out suddenly, or when you interact with people, working, listening at lectures. It would really suck if this method won’t work for me. The overnight 8 hour sleep loops.. Good night everyone

[MasterEnki]

@Zane

I am wondering what kinda brain damage she’s suffering from?

37yo woman has some difficulty speaking, she can only say shorter sentences, that are other missing words. But she usually always says key words. For example about a week ago when I was seeing her at the local cafe (her carer is okay with cafe lunches with her), she said “Bed... Together” while pointing at me. Another time she was saying “My house... Me... You... Sleep”.

Recently, at one of our cafe lunches, she was saying “You... My house”, and I asked her what do you want to do together, and she replied “Upstairs... Cuddle” (her room is upstairs). It seems like she wants to sleep with me (she is fairly [/quote]consistent with her message).

37yo woman also has below-average IQ, and is noticeably slower in her movements and often takes several seconds to answer simple questions (her answers are consistent though). She tends to ask me the same questions over and over, so her memory may not be too great. She’s asked me if I live with my parents several times now (I live by myself at the moment).

Also, I think the care taker is taking things to extreme.. No kissing..? WTF?

Agreed. It is quite extreme.

State legislation says that one of the many exceptions to consent includes ‘Mentally impairment’, meaning that if a person who is ‘mentally impaired’ consents to sex, then it is automatically rape.

Her carer said to me “she has trouble saying ‘no’” and that this point voids her consent. I think her carer is over-reacting, but the group home policies consider kissing as a romantic / sexual act, and according to the group home policies, romantic relationships and sexual relationships are treated the same (referred to as ‘personal relationship’). The group home errs on the side of over-protected, rather than under-protected.

Very recently, my state has new legislative requirements for group homes focused on preventing sexual harassment, abuse, assault and/or rape. State consent laws were made ‘tougher’ a few months ago.

“Only an enthusiastic ‘Yes’, means ‘Yes’.” is the current legislation. But all grey areas are treated as an automatic ‘no’ / non-consent (such as brain damage, intellectual disability, drunk, high, coercion, blackmail, and many others).

MeToo has lead to hysteria, paranoia and mass fear. At the local shops there are government sponsored billboards that show women crying, with short messages about sexual abuse / violence. One of the government sponsored ads said “9 in 10 women have been sexually harassed, but only 1 in 4 adults report it”.

All this is likely why the carer is so over-the-top / over-protective. It frustrates me greatly.



@Shannon

Thanks for the reply.

We don’t know it was a manifestation.

It could. Just like it could be nothing at all.

Fair points. 37yo woman could be a ‘random’ that came into my life due to some subconscious belief(s) that I can’t seem to ‘pin down’ consciously.

The annoying thing about manifestation is being ‘in the dark’ the whole time, and not knowing who, when, where, nor how I will meet her / the primary manifestation(s).

I wish there was a way of consciously knowing these things beforehand. Or at least, knowing approx, when I will meet her.

I guess manifestation is just being patient and living my normal life in the meantime.


Edit:

I don’t know what it was. I do know that you’ve told that story at least three or four times now, and I think you would do best to leave it in the past and move on to the present.

She is still in my life. Her carer said that she still may recover / one day be able to consent. I still have a chance with 37yo woman.

With that said, I’m open to meeting someone new, that doesn’t have the same logistical complications. Just have to wait until I meet someone else who wants to sleep with me.

If one woman has asked to sleep with me, it is plausible that some others want to sleep with me also.

[anansi26]

Shannon does the new UM/OP deal with social life in any way?If not what sub would you recommend?Sorry if you answered this question already.

[Benjamin]

I am wondering what kinda brain damage she's suffering from?

Also, I think the care taker is taking things to extreme.. No Kissing..? WTF?

That really does sound pretty crazy. From your description she doesn't sound like she's challenged or anything.

My first thought is that there's something strange up with the carer. Who knows.

EDIT: Ok, I just read your post above this which I hadn't before I wrote the reply. I can see where they are coming from now that you described how she is.

[Zane]

I am wondering what kinda brain damage she's suffering from?

Also, I think the care taker is taking things to extreme.. No Kissing..? WTF?

That really does sound pretty crazy. From your description she doesn't sound like she's challenged or anything.

My first thought is that there's something strange up with the carer. Who knows.

EDIT: Ok, I just read your post above this which I hadn't before I wrote the reply. I can see where they are coming from now that you described how she is.

Well the 9nly this I would say that if u want to spend time with her like walking around and watching movies then it's OK.. I think this woman just wants to stay in close to you and spend time with you..

[Jake2015]

@Shannon I used MLS 5.5G for 3 months, i would insist on this sub for 3 more months but i have a super important deadline in 18 days and can't afford to wait for the sub to take effect. I brought UM/OP, that's what i need now, i can't take a break, what can i expect?

You can expect that there will be severe turbulence between those two programs. For a period of time, they will both be running in your head and you will probably experience confusion, exhaustion and overload with possible headaches and very probably inconsistent results. Once that fades, whatever sub you're using will dominate and start functioning normally.

Talking about disruption, I tried those sleepheadphones for the first time. I went to sleep at 23:00 PM and I woke up at 04:00-04:30 AM The sleepheadphones felt a bit uncomfortable and I took the sleepheadband off and went back to sleep... I was at 5.5 loops so I stopped listening in the middle of a loop... I woke up at 09:00 AM and I want to listen further to make my full 8 hours of listening because that was the plan. Is this possible? Or should I just wait for tonight to do another round? Will this disrupt anything?

Could someone give me advice on this? Will the program be disruptive now or without effects because I missed a half loop? How should I proceed from now on :angel:

a few seconds disruption to just less than a minute is fine and should be fine but anything more than a minute then you've taken a break and so stop. This was the advice I got many weeks or months ago.

So continue tonight as normal for todays listen.

Also I tried sleepheadphones and they were very painful and I hated them so never used them.

Okay so if I quit my listening session in the middle of the night with 5 and a half loops already done I shouldn’t continue to listen for the full 8 hours right? I should just leave it at that number of loops for that night and wait until the next night starts.

It’s 1:48 AM atm in my country and i’m going to sleep. Have my sleepheAdphones on, and I hope it will be more comfortable during this night. If I take it off again during my sleep while in the middle of a loop then I should just wait for the next night to start over again. Am I right?

It would be really inconvenient to listen for 8 hours daily while awake... You have to watch your earbuds constantly, if they don’t fall out suddenly, or when you interact with people, working, listening at lectures. It would really suck if this method won’t work for me. The overnight 8 hour sleep loops.. Good night everyone

yes a few seconds break should be okay, a longer break then yes thats your listening done irrespective of whether it was 5 loops or 2. Just do the next round of loops when its time.

[Jake2015]

@Shannon

Hey buddy, so my brother lives with us at home here in the UK. Hes today confided in me of just how badly hes lost motivation and cant seem to turn it on for his work and career which is stalling.

I wanted to know if its okay to allow him to use the UM/OP sub (downloaded to his phone) that I bought even though I want to start it for myself too in 35days time and continue when I get back to Europe?

thanks alot man!

[MasterEnki]

I am wondering what kinda brain damage she's suffering from?

Also, I think the care taker is taking things to extreme.. No Kissing..? WTF?

That really does sound pretty crazy. From your description she doesn't sound like she's challenged or anything.

My first thought is that there's something strange up with the carer. Who knows.

EDIT: Ok, I just read your post above this which I hadn't before I wrote the reply. I can see where they are coming from now that you described how she is.

Agreed.

The carer is likely just doing what she thinks is best / she has a legal obligation due to being a group home manager.

I’ve only seen her (the carer) a few times, and she seems to be a ‘strong independent woman’ type.

Best I can do is have lunch with 37yo woman, while accepting that I will likely have to look elsewhere for sex / dating.