Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[Darkness]

Shannon could you extensively optimize and refine the cognitive decoherence module. To help the user think super clearly and not be befuddled or have mental lag and be free of the inability to flow in conversation . Because I haven’t used any subs for two months now, and my brain is officially functioning at 100%. Even trivial socializing has improved. I’m not struggling to think, nor is my speech garbled and nonsensical.

[Zane]

To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B

Ok phew thats reassuring to hear buddy!!

Me too..

[kalmah0804]

Hey Shannon--I've been taking a bit of a break from the forums, so I apologize if this question has already been answered, but I figured it's worth a shot asking, because I think at least someone needs to report this type of stuff:

I'm wondering if it's possible to resist or self-sabotage a script so much that you in fact execute and manifest the polar opposite of what you're trying to attract. When I was on DMSI3.01A, I noticed, albeit slowly, beautiful women manifesting themselves for me, and grew to a place of extreme happiness. Friends and coworkers were all treating me a lot more nicely, and also with a lot more respect. When I began DMSI 3.1A, I quickly experienced high-threat regular (generally daily) anxiety and panic attacks... the dream job and opportunity I had manifested as part of my growth on DMSI 3.01A turned into an absolute nightmare--a quintissential hollywood horror story--my best friend, and the only person I've felt really close with since my Dad died, had to move out of the city I was living in because he suffered his own personal tragedy (which I admittedly don't think had anything to do with DMSI), and I eventually suffered a series of mental breakdowns and anxiety attacks which led me to impulsively quit my job and move across the country back home on a total whim, since which I have never fully recovered.

I recently moved back to Southern California to pursue my dreams when DMSI 3.2 was released. I started with the B side and immediately noticed all of my old anxieties, insecurities, fears and paranoid emotions all returning at once. Since running DMSI 3.2 A on and off now for the past several months, I have been sexually assaulted by an old, disgusting gay man, sexually violated/harrassed by a disgusting elderly african american woman who was disorderly and drunk, and I have been physically attacked by an enraged taxi driver who grew upset with my friend/co-rider and eventually turned all of his physical aggression on me (For no apparent reason at all), got out of his cab, chased me onto my property and began to push me down and punch me before I was dragged away and into my home by my friends. I have seen about 3 sure-thing guaranteed job offers for me come onto the table, only to somehow get pulled away from me for no clear-cut reason ever identified. The only commonality in all of these instances is that I had been actively listening to DMSI 3.2, either A side or B side, the current day or the evening/day beforehand.

Just yesterday, after re-starting DMSI 3.2-A for about 4 days, our neighbor's schizophrenic bipolar son apparently returned into their custody. He's 450lbs, completely delusional and insane, and is obsessed with coming to our house and asking if I'm around. He's tried to gain entry into our house several times, and the family is not taking any responsibiltiy for his behavior. He's threatened my roommate because he thought he was smiling (my roommates and I are all very scared of this person and were not smiling). I legitimately fear for my safety, and the only logical connection I can make between all of the terrifying events I have lived through in the past 6 months is that I have always been running DMSI during these times.

I understand that this is a seriously loaded question, but I want to make clear that I realize that I'm trying this sub at my own risk, and that if my subconscious is indeed self-sabotaging or resisting by manifesting only insanity, danger, and violence into my life when all I want more than anything right now is financial, professional, mental and emotional security, I can stop the sub at any time and have always noticed these manifestations resolve themselves/go away after a day or two.

I don't know if what I'm suggesting is even possible--but since you've been getting (mostly) positive feedback, or at least strong growth and results, from almost everyone on this forum, I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced strong symptoms of manifesting things/people you are subconsciously/consciously afraid of in the early stages of running DMSI3.2, or if such a thing (the counter-manifestations of the script) is even theoretically possible.

What you describe is going to be one of the following things.

1. There is no connection, and correlation does not equal causation.
2. Your subconscious is afraid of this goal set and is doing what we call "scorched earth resistance tactics". This appears to be one of the most extreme forms of resistance possible, and so much so that we only just discovered it several months ago. It's also a very very rare form of resistance.

If it is #1, then stop or go, it won't matter. If it is #2, then you will always have this reaction unless:

A) You stop using the program, the perceived "threat" goes away and your subconscious stops doing this.
B) You find the right combination of loops to volume and format, and break through it.

From what I have seen, you are not really a good candidate for using subliminals in general because of the healing you appear to need. But if you're going to do it anyway, I suggest you stop using anything for a while (1-3 months) and see if the strangeness continues. If after that it is still happening, then it probably indicates no correlation. Otherwise, if it stops, it probably indicates the resistance tactic.

Alright cool, that's a lot of helpful information. Thanks.

[Williamx25]

Hi Shannon,

For someone who has not seen much results from MLS 5.5G and DMSI so far, will the upcoming US/LM (or any others in the near future) be able to overcome resistance?

I feel stuck in one place with subliminals for a long time now. For me I sometimes see small things that tells me my mind is listening to the subliminals, but they are not really good results.

For example with DMSI when I take a break from listening for a week or so I notice I bump into people I know more often. But nothing more than that.

Thanks.

I can't say for sure what they will do for you. I know that we are steadily increasing how well the programs work on resistant behavior. But if and when any particular person will start executing significantly, I cannot know.

How do I consciously know what the instructions are? Or is it something that I will execute subconsciously?

You don't consciously know what the instructions are. They will be executed entirely at the subconscious level.

What do you exactly mean with those instructions? Adjusting body language/ voice tone / eye contact ? Becoming a more attractive man through body language? Or is it the programming that goes right into my subconscious mind?

I'm not sure what instructions you are referring to. The script? The program instructions? Something I mentioned?

If approaching girls isn’t executing the instructions, or talking to them, what is it then? Just curious

DMSI is designed to make you so sexually attractive that you don't have to approach. It doesn't stop you, but why would it be executing the instructions to approach if the goal is to simply be so attractive that that is not necessary in the first place?

Executing the instructions is just that. Those instructions are not public, so you won't know consciously what they are. When you start executing them, however, you should see a drastic change, like Thor did.

What you describe sounds like stonewalling.

I was referring to the instructions that DMSI gives you. I saw you mention that in a few posts. And of course, everything is subconsciously programmed so I can't know/hear them consciously.

I was trying to figure out what the instructions are, but now I understand it. I just have to wait and see how the women flock on to me and escalate sexually with me. I think my resistancev is also partly the fact that I was stressing about ''approaching''. Like when I was out in public or at the gym I got eye contact and I was like: SHIT, I HAVE TO APPROACH, DO SOMETHING? And then I got really confused about everything.. So DMSI is just basically wait until they talk to you and then you can arrange a date and escalate sexually?

I still pussy out when a girl stares in my direction/ have eye contact with a girl
I got male pattern baldness and a very young age (15). So i'm already 10 years bald and I hate it. And my fat body doesn't help aswell lol. THat's my major resistance. I am disgusted by my looks. But i'm working hard in the gym trying to gain muscles and lower in bodyfat.

I was walking around with all the PUA stuff in my head, I'm trying to get rid of it, I mean the mindset that a man must hunt etc... I just need women to come to me and then I will sexually escalate.

What do you mean with stonewalling? Like hard resistance?

I'm going to increase my loops to 8 hours, i'm going to get those sleepheadphones, I need to crush and push through this resistance at all costs. Even if I have to listen 10 hours a day. So be it....

I think you have will have to work on this forever. Everything needs to get upgraded to 10G or something. Maybe 50G. Or make a script that will equal 1 hour of listening to 1000 hours of listening lol.

[Morgul]

Morgul's explanation about believes and reinforcing that barrier is kind of related to something I have been pondering lately.

Basically, DMSI creates insane amounts of attraction in women around me, but as a result, I'm developing a belief that it is all fake and they are not really attracted to me, but to the aura that DMSI creates (based on the HUGELY obvious difference in attraction between with and without DMSI). So in a kind of convoluted way, it reinforces my believes such as "I am not attractive to women just by myself" and I'm only bypassing that barrier in an unnatural way. Have thoughts like this occured to anyone else here?

I'm using ver. A by the way.

Years ago, when I was working on myself to become more attractive to women, with affirmations, visualizing, etc. (before I started using subliminals), I had a similar resistance coming up, which expressed in words was very reasonable and said "I shouldn't need to do so much effort just so women are attracted to me, it feels unfair, as if I wasn't good all by myself". Wrong logic here, because what I was doing working on my mindset wasn't what made women attracted to me, but it was tools that were removing the crap in me that was preventing that to happen naturally.

On your particular case, I can see some wrong logic as well. Because that aura is you. It's not something external added onto you by DMSI, but it's something that is you, which is tuned by you (subconsciously, but still you) following DMSI instructions. It's similar to grooming your body... it won't be the grooming what will make women attracted to you, but you + the grooming.

Are women attracted to you for real? You might be believing for long that that wasn't possible, and this can be the reason why you are questioning this belief now... Are they truly attracted to you, can that be possible? Give yourself permission to believe that yes, it can be you, and DMSI is making you remove the negativity in yourself that hinders your attractive inner self from shining your sexual light. If you use DMSI for long enough, you will see how you are left with a more genuine and positive version of yourself, more capable and pure; and even when you stop using it, many benefits will remain in you, which will show you for a fact that it wasn't DMSI, it was you who attracted women.

Pay attention to what Shannon says. He keeps telling everyone who resists, to stop resisting and instead execute. Is it the subliminal that resists or executes? No, it's us doing that. The subliminal is only an instruction set.

[Morgul]

@sarge You mean there's no other explanation that you can see or bring yourself to believe. Black and white thinking. "There are always reasons and options that are not obvious. Therefore, never make snap judgements."

If I get results immediately after using pua, it’s pretty obvious.

I don't know whether you will be open to know the truth or not, because you seem to reject most everything that points to the truth (surely unintentionally), but I'll try to point at it in some other way. Maybe you can start accepting these facts that you can't seem to see so far, but others who are aware of them, can see these from the way you talk.

PUA has worked for you because of bypassing the need for you to change your negative beliefs about yourself. You might have, but you won't find natural attraction, until those layers of negative beliefs about yourself (as a man) are (at least partly) cleared. When natural attraction does happen to you, you don't see it and therefore you can't use it to challenge your existing mindset.

This is a diagram to explain this:

You
---------- Negative faith about yourself
Women

In this situation above, you are doing nothing, and nothing seems to happen. You see no attraction whatsoever. What you can't see is the barrier that is blocking the possibility of any attraction.

Natural seduction happens like this:

You
| -------- Natural connection, and rest of mindset that isn't preventing you from it now
Women

With PUA you are doing this:

You --- \ Unnatural connection (but partly natural as well) forced, via unnatural tricks
-------- # to bypass your negative mindset about yourself, which is reinforced by
Women / this kind of actions


The thing that you cannot see is the --------- barrier, the one that prevents you from having and seeing natural attraction with women, where you literally have to do nothing to find that attraction. You need to question and challenge the mindset you keep about yourself that you normally cannot see it. It's faith that you have about you not being attractive to women all on your own, without having to do any actions; and who knows which other kind of negative layers, such as shame, guilt, sex not being okay, sexuality doesn't just "happen"...

If you think logically, you will be able to easily admit that you believe things like "I am not attractive to women just by myself". Correct? Well, those are the kind of beliefs that conform that barrier. "Women don't want me" is a big one for you, it seems, because you mentioned that it hurts... removing this particular belief, and clearing the emotions of that pain, will do wonders for you (my guess, knowing how these things work).

That ------ barrier is in your ego, and as such it doesn't want to be seen, because it's the way you believe yourself to be, and it doesn't want to change because your ego believes that mindset itself is you. Until you start clearing that barrier, you most probably will never notice any natural attraction between you and women. Even if it happens, you won't admit it. Remember, your ego holds that barrier and doesn't want it to change. It must be you deciding to clear it what can set you free.

I wish that helps clarify this to you. When you look at these diagrams, you will know exactly what you should change in order to have what you really want (natural attraction): dig holes on that f***king mental wall.

This is exactly what I have been saying all along. Its like using a pair of crutches to walk rather then allowing the legs to heal so you can naturally walk.

This is all highly speculative and, again, there is no proof.

It's a paradigm that is proven to work, countless times, for many people. The same one maybe that you said it didn't work for you. But for me and many others, it has worked. That's proof.

Your paradigm also works, truth be told.

But if I was you, and didn't want anything to change, but gave myself the luxury of changing just one thing; what I would do is accepting that yes, you are attractive to "some women", all by yourself. Even if you don't like those women, you can admit to some of them, you are, even if not a lot. It's really not healthy for yourself (such as to your self esteem) that you believe you aren't attractive to women by yourself at all.

[Shawn]

I thought the PUA discussion moved to the offtopic section...


However, @Shannon I don't know how these things are implemented now, but if not already happened, would you consider to make the anti-fap, porn, hooker or whatever loophole module working only as long the user listens to DMSI? For example if someone listens to DMSI and then start BASE so these given modules would stop working as they are not required. My point is to make these modules working only temporary as long the user is trying to reach the goal and not make this part permanent.

[Morgul]

Shannon says to not try to clear things on our own (or at least not with any mind programming, or mind altering, no EFT tapping...), and let the sub do it, to not interfere. But I never follow that advice for long, because to me it's more important to become free, successful, and have what I want, than to wait and see how the subliminal solves it all subconsciously. I can't wait that long, I am committed to myself and my life.

So by doing that you invalidate the ability to know what DMSI is and is not doing, and slow me down from achieving the development it needs. That is a big part of the problem we have here, I never know if what you guys report is DMSI or something else you're doing that I don't know about.

I give those instructions for good reasons. Disregarding them slows down development. That's why we are stretching on into years now.

I'm not using DMSI, I didn't buy it yet. And most probably, even I'm curious, I won't do so unless a version of it is released, that is compatible with having an exclusive relationship with loyalty. What I'm using now is WM, the original version, doing stage 5 now. Now that I think, I will put it on my signature as many people do, it can prevent misunderstandings.

But because of my calling for healing and evolution, and the integrity with my coaching work, I will be unavoidably touching within things related to what the subliminals are doing. I simply cannot not use and be good at the tools that my clients pay me to teach them and help them with. Also in order to properly help them, I must grow at all costs, it can't be in any other way.

So yes, I don't count as a valid user to observe results from. Sorry for that. But I was doing it correctly before, years ago, while I could, when I wasn't forced to improve faster.

[Morgul]

I thought the PUA discussion moved to the offtopic section...

My fault, I was replying messages where I left them the last time I checked the forum. And didn't read about that new thread somewhere else, until too late. If any admin can move those replies to the right new thread, please, that would be awesome.

[thor2014]

To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B

7 loops seems to have cleansed me of any thoughts of ever looking at porn.

[thor2014]

@Shannon What are the things you are thinking of adding on to DMSI 3.3? Thanks

I have a list of additions as long as my arm. lol I want some of them to be a pleasant surprise that I tell you about when I release the program, but a few from the list include...

• Prevent unwanted conception.
  
• Improve anti-STD programming.
  
• Make it win-win for the user and the affected to execute.
  
• Improve adjustment of self image to be congruent with what DMSI is attempting to achieve.
  
• Make your actions and choices congruent with celebrity.
  
• Prevent hiring a hooker or an escort to pay your way to sex as an escape from executing DMSI.
  
• Adjust the perception of the goals of the program to make them reasonable, natural, possible.
  
• Modulate the effects of the entire aura to make them non-threatening on a case by case basis.
  
• Improve disconnect from negativity programming.
  
• Communicate to all layers and levels of awareness that you consciously want to achieve the goals of this program, and are giving yourself permission to do so.
  

I'll stop there. There's a lot more, of course. I have been gathering ideas from the forum discussions for a while now. The really interesting stuff will remain a secret, at least for now.

May I ask you include a feature in future versions to increase sperm volume ? if that is possible.

[josh84]

Hi Shannon, regarding the masked track, on trickling stream 3.2b it might not be crackling just sort of like white noise sound behind the trickling stream i assume thats the subliminal messages. On ocean surf its not heard so i have been using ocean surf masked 3.2b last few days and its at a volume i can hear from my bed clearly.

Reason i was trying 3.2b was after 4-6 weeks on 3.2a i had no changes so thought to give b a try for 14 days i finish that cycle on thursday night.

I will give hybrid on 3.2a at 7 loops a try and see if it does anything but so far not seeing anything and if im stonewalling so much i dont know why or how to change that, when i spoke with you about it we thought masked would help more than hybrid but it hasnt seemed to of done much either so far.

I will go back to 3.2a but the trouble is dont know if im healing anything if not having dreams no anger issues or any actual changes so far so i dont know what its trying to heal and how to get to the executing script part.

Hopefully something changes soon.

[Tigerismyspirit]

To All

I wanted to ask if anyone that is listening to (multiple) 7 loops of 3.2 witnessed at the start an increase in masturbation or behaviour that was being controlled with 1 loop?

thanks

I've masturbated twice and spent an entire day watching porn after starting 7 loops of B

7 loops seems to have cleansed me of any thoughts of ever looking at porn.

Did you listen to 7 loops of A until you got laid with the barrister? or B?

[Benjamin]

May I ask you include a feature in future versions to increase sperm volume ? if that is possible.

Why do you want that? It doesn't really make any sense to include and just something that would take away focus.