Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3

[maxx55]

@Shannon I'm glad that you are considering that situation of a resistor not getting results on the 3.x line and needing the 4.0 to get them. It's appreciated, but I hope I'm not one of them. It's just a bit more comforting to know.

I've had some dreams since being on 3.2A like the ones other members posted about a few pages earlier, but that's it. No noticeable depression. Maybe playing video games more (while still being productive, but not max productive). I just don't want to have invested so much time into this program and not get the results.

How many loops are you using?

To answer your question, I've been using only 1 loop as you originally instructed upon release. I used 3.2B the whole time except for about two weeks ago when I switched to version A, still using only one loop. Any suggestions?

[Blazedo]

@Shannon

A while back you mentioned (or something like it) that Sensors (MBTI terms) were/are overrepresented in resistant personalities.

Have you thought of running the models on Sensors/Intuitives to see which amount of loops would be the best for either of these?

[DarkTempatation]

@Shannon

Hi Shannon just had some quick questions. Dmsi is for sex that is the main primary goal. however from my perspective there maybe users in this forum who are not interested they may just want to chill around with women, enjoy themselves spend time with them etc. this is all from my point of view, do you ever consider upgrading BIATBW 4g into 5.5g or 6G? or is that within DMSI.


or is it worth just doing Dmsi?

For example for me i barely know any females and dont really communicate with any. i would like to have /be surrounded with females but most importantly without any attachment. Everyone has different views to things and prespectives this is just from me as we all think different.

Question 2) E2 is type A/B/C/D type D is for manifesting? just wondering what does one manifest emotional health? thats all from me...

also are you planning to create 'Astral projection subliminals? as i do have an interest in this, would love to have more out of body experiences as well as travel to the unseen

[THolt]

Hey Shannon,

Have you determined what the next few focusfire subs will be other than Ultra Success?

[Shannon]

@Shannon I'm glad that you are considering that situation of a resistor not getting results on the 3.x line and needing the 4.0 to get them. It's appreciated, but I hope I'm not one of them. It's just a bit more comforting to know.

I've had some dreams since being on 3.2A like the ones other members posted about a few pages earlier, but that's it. No noticeable depression. Maybe playing video games more (while still being productive, but not max productive). I just don't want to have invested so much time into this program and not get the results.

How many loops are you using?

To answer your question, I've been using only 1 loop as you originally instructed upon release. I used 3.2B the whole time except for about two weeks ago when I switched to version A, still using only one loop. Any suggestions?

You are free to use as many loops as you like. I opened that up some time ago,. 7 seems to be doing well for most people who had trouble with 1 or 2.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

A while back you mentioned (or something like it) that Sensors (MBTI terms) were/are overrepresented in resistant personalities.

Have you thought of running the models on Sensors/Intuitives to see which amount of loops would be the best for either of these?

I personally don't use the MTBI types very much. I rely on other systems. I was going based on what I was told by someone else who was observing things from that point of view, and it seemed to make sense.

I aim to get the 6G skeleton script to the point that it does not matter what you are, it works.

[Shannon]

@Shannon

Hi Shannon just had some quick questions. Dmsi is for sex that is the main primary goal. however from my perspective there maybe users in this forum who are not interested they may just want to chill around with women, enjoy themselves spend time with them etc. this is all from my point of view, do you ever consider upgrading BIATBW 4g into 5.5g or 6G? or is that within DMSI.

It's in DMSI, IIRC.

or is it worth just doing Dmsi?

I think so, but you may think I am saying so from a biased point of view.

For example for me i barely know any females and dont really communicate with any. i would like to have /be surrounded with females but most importantly without any attachment. Everyone has different views to things and prespectives this is just from me as we all think different.

DMSI isn't about attachment, it's about developing maximum sexual irresistibility.

Question 2) E2 is type A/B/C/D type D is for manifesting? just wondering what does one manifest emotional health? thats all from me...

Manifestation is used to support the goals of the program in a manner that is basically an early attempt at reality bending.

also are you planning to create 'Astral projection subliminals? as i do have an interest in this, would love to have more out of body experiences as well as travel to the unseen

Not at this time. That may change at some point, but for the foreseeable future, it is not in my plans.

[DarkPlouf]

DarkTemptation

Oh, a fellow in the dark force too.

also are you planning to create 'Astral projection subliminals? as i do have an interest in this, would love to have more out of body experiences as well as travel to the unseen Big Grin

Oh, oh! A fellow dreamer...

[...]however from my perspective there maybe users in this forum who are not interested they may just want to chill around with women, enjoy themselves spend time with them etc. For example for me i barely know any females and dont really communicate with any. i would like to have /be surrounded with females but most importantly without any attachment. Everyone has different views to things and prespectives this is just from me as we all think different.

Are you me?!
Well jokes aside lately I've been thinking that if I focus on relationship and women again I'd start first by expending my social circle and get a bunch of friends (women preferably). I'd like to have some good connections with female friends and have fun with them. And the thing is, in such situation the good stuff happens naturally and effortlessly usually...
So I kinda join you there.
If you're looking for an alternative to DMSI, I think WM2 would help with that...

[DarkPlouf]

You will have to understand that a man hunts and seduces because he must. But a high value man only hunts and seduces if and when he wants to - because it is fun, not because he must.

@Shannon What would you say to someone who never find any fun in "hunting" or seduction?
That may be because hunting never went anywhere in the first place, but what would you suggest to such persons?
Personally I stopped trying because it's never fun, it never works and it only hurts, but I don't know if I should reboot myself and jut go again for another round with the "men should hunt" lifestyle or just chill and continue to do not give a fuck about all this stuff ?

[Benjamin]

Now the problem with your excuse, here, is that nowhere in DMSI do I tell you to be passive in seduction, stop trying to approach or seduce them, or anything along those lines. Your passivity is YOUR CHOICE, and has nothing to do with DMSI. It's designed to give you maximum freedom and diversity of choice and action. Seduce when you like, and let them come to you when you like. In other words, your excuse is, to put it simply, *****.

It's good to read that because when I was using it I got the impression that it was actively training me not to. Even with girls that serve me I usually chat to them, and on 3.2 I noticed I had zero desire to 'reach out' but they were giving me a better response, I just couldn't be bothered with that. It was similar when I went out. I'd go out and the good thing was I legitimately enjoyed sitting there and talking to my friends, where in the past i'd just go out to meet girls. But at the same time I had low desire to talk to girls most of the time on 3.2.

Guess it was some kind of fear based response. An observation is that making things more sexual can bring up more fear for me at times, like if i'm talking to them just normal for nothing I feel more comfortable. But with more of a sexual intent the fear comes up. So that would make sense.

[SargeMaximus]

Now the problem with your excuse, here, is that nowhere in DMSI do I tell you to be passive in seduction, stop trying to approach or seduce them, or anything along those lines. Your passivity is YOUR CHOICE, and has nothing to do with DMSI. It's designed to give you maximum freedom and diversity of choice and action. Seduce when you like, and let them come to you when you like. In other words, your excuse is, to put it simply, *****.

It's good to read that because when I was using it I got the impression that it was actively training me not to. Even with girls that serve me I usually chat to them, and on 3.2 I noticed I had zero desire to 'reach out' but they were giving me a better response, I just couldn't be bothered with that. It was similar when I went out. I'd go out and the good thing was I legitimately enjoyed sitting there and talking to my friends, where in the past i'd just go out to meet girls. But at the same time I had low desire to talk to girls most of the time on 3.2.

Guess it was some kind of fear based response. An observation is that making things more sexual can bring up more fear for me at times, like if i'm talking to them just normal for nothing I feel more comfortable. But with more of a sexual intent the fear comes up. So that would make sense.

The thing is though (let's not forget): DMSI IS supposed to get women to seduce us. So that implies we shouldn't have to do anything to get that result (especially since the "meet them halfway" programming has been removed).

[Nox]

Shannon do you believe an ascendant alpha is an alpha who is enlightened? Can you be enlightened but not alpha?

Alpha has nothing to do with enlightenment, but if youre enlightened you will be an alpha by default

Which logically and by definition means they have something to do with one another.

You're not wrong but that doesnt mean I agree haha

[Nox]

Now the problem with your excuse, here, is that nowhere in DMSI do I tell you to be passive in seduction, stop trying to approach or seduce them, or anything along those lines. Your passivity is YOUR CHOICE, and has nothing to do with DMSI. It's designed to give you maximum freedom and diversity of choice and action. Seduce when you like, and let them come to you when you like. In other words, your excuse is, to put it simply, *****.

It's good to read that because when I was using it I got the impression that it was actively training me not to. Even with girls that serve me I usually chat to them, and on 3.2 I noticed I had zero desire to 'reach out' but they were giving me a better response, I just couldn't be bothered with that. It was similar when I went out. I'd go out and the good thing was I legitimately enjoyed sitting there and talking to my friends, where in the past i'd just go out to meet girls. But at the same time I had low desire to talk to girls most of the time on 3.2.

Guess it was some kind of fear based response. An observation is that making things more sexual can bring up more fear for me at times, like if i'm talking to them just normal for nothing I feel more comfortable. But with more of a sexual intent the fear comes up. So that would make sense.

The thing is though (let's not forget): DMSI IS supposed to get women to seduce us. So that implies we shouldn't have to do anything to get that result (especially since the "meet them halfway" programming has been removed).

There are many levels and shades of seduction. Her seducing you may involve you doing a lot of the work if she's really skilled at it.

[DarkPlouf]

@Sarge: But let's not forgot too that DMSI does much more than just making women seduce us. It has many goodies like making us more sexy, more high value and so on. So that'd definitely help for those enjoying seducing. It's still a choice and DMSI shouldn't hinder that.
Also the thing is, the "meet them halfway" script wasn't about motivating us to do anything! it was there to restrict the affected side to only go past what the user allow. That's just a restriction and a barrier for the affected side to go all the way.
That's all what it was about. Autopilot and all the goodies that helps with seduction is still in 3.2.

Didn't run 3.2 but in 3.1 DMSI was making me more horny, always lurking for boobs and such...Imo I found that was enough of a motivation to want to bang girls. However, I think the more I was staying on A, the less I started to care and the motivation vanished at some point.