Shannon's Journal Discussion

[ncbeareatingman]

The main selling point for me is that the things don't need to be replaced after X amount of time. The creator also offers healing sessions and other stuff but these little stones last forever. So her primary income is made from client consultations rather than from the rejuvenizers.

If the price had been 4 figures then i might have been prevented from trying them out, as I have come across mega expensive healing gadgets in the past that were sold by some pretty unscrupulous parties. Thankfully that wasn't the case here.[/quote]

That is another strong selling point for these items, you buy it once and you don't ever have to a buy another one. Plus, the prices are very reasonably priced and not overly expensive either. Yes, I like that her main source of income is from the client consultations and not from the rejuvenizers. Which shows that the products will be better made and last longer.

The rejuvenizers are really and truly amazing. I've utilized these special devices for 20 plus years now one for 25,infact. On the yes they are quite affordable when you really SEE the real value of them as such. The lay away plan is truly outta site the best I've ever come across thus far fella. 20 bucks down,12 months to pay it off and if you send'um a recent shot,say ya take one with your phone/camera...upload it into an e-mail,send it to lighthealing,once you've already put yr rejuvenizer on layaway that is..they'll print out your pic' then place the rejuvenizer you've chosen ,ON YOUR PHOTO and you begin to get the clearing,upliftment and and protection right away before you even get the dog gone thang. heavysm can verify this as he's used at home like this. I"ve have several on family members like this. I wear mine all the time, I have damn near all of them and as state have had so fer years and years. outdoor,indoor,cell phone,water,circuit,indoor rejuvenizers,pet,ect. awesome stuff. sooo loving the power of E2. MY second night.

[chaosvrgn]

Shannon's making my life pretty freakin' hard right now. I was SO set on E2 for six months after I finished this run of AM6 (currently in Stage 4)... Now, here he is working on even more awesome products and stuff. Must stay strong, must make the purchase I know I NEED rather than what sounds fun...

[CatMan]

Shannon, LOVE the news about BIATBWS and AOS being combined in 5.5G. Absolutely insane news, I'm so excited for this you have no idea!!! Buying this combo program 5.5G opening day, no lie at all. I was confused as to why you would build in 5G for it, you've always seemed to want to build things in the best way possible at the time of construction. I figured it was a time issue, but I'm glad you are doing it in 5.5G now, this should REALLY change many lives! This is an amazing surprise, I was wishing they'd be combined in a mini SM3 in 5.5G! VERY exciting! Awesome program...simply awesome.

Also, the thought that now you'd have a 5.5G template to create further works in, also fantastic for everyone to hear. From what you said, it seems it will have more tech/power than EHPRA 2.0. Being that it will be built out from some unknown custom program that Andrew has had made for him. That program, whatever it is, sounds like it is even more beastly than EHPRA 2.0. Very interesting, more power and increasing gentleness alongside is good, onward and upward, I guess that's progress. It's amazing, it just seems like weeks ago, OF5G was the beast of IML, now that's been eclipsed by EHPRA 2.0, it seems that program's reign will be short-lived. Looking forward to the 6G backport goodness in this program...maybe even more ones than EHPRA 2.0 had, makes sense as you're gaining more and more knowledge about how to implement stuff as time goes on. Honestly, this program will change lives, man. Wow, you are outdoing yourself constantly. I greatly respect that.

I'm also not too comfortable with that "gender neutral" thing, not a fan of awkward, undesirable situations popping up. That's why I liked SM3's strong signal of heterosexuality bulletpoint, because earlier versions of that apparently had issues with gay men going after listeners. If you say it's fine, then okay we have to accept that, maybe you've learned new tricks to implement it since then I guess...

Overall, a very positive update. Not just for this new BIATBWS+AOS 5.5G, but for the new 5.5G template itself, allowing you a platform to develop future 5.5G programs! Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful!

[ncbeareatingman]

yeah Catman...E2 is outstanding, in just two days...its both kicked my ass and served me well... riding the wave and doing my best as the future achieved goals PULL me forward to it and I go to meet it as well... yes Im already seeing some of this on E2 amoung several other outstanding things as well... more laughter,joy,depth ,spirit info-atunement...going within more yet more extrovertedly myself as well. very cool sometimes very trippy and over all outta F*****king site technology!

[CatMan]

yeah Catman...E2 is outstanding, in just two days...its both kicked my ass and served me well... riding the wave and doing my best as the future achieved goals PULL me forward to it and I go to meet it as well... yes Im already seeing some of this on E2 amoung several other outstanding things as well... more laughter,joy,depth ,spirit info-atunement...going within more yet more extrovertedly myself as well. very cool sometimes very trippy and over all outta F*****king site technology!

I have to admit, I'm used to seeing the hyperbole here about sub stuff. You know how it is. I figured EHPRA 2.0 would be a slight improvement, but exaggerated like many things by people here lol. I have EHPRA 2.0, maybe it's time to fire it up.

Peer pressure from you guys, lol!!! Maybe I'll use it and pile up some good hours until this other program is built to lay some groundwork. I wasn't expecting such a beast program to come out at this time. This was a wonderful surprise!

[maxx55]

Shannon, LOVE the news about BIATBWS and AOS being combined in 5.5G. Absolutely insane news, I'm so excited for this you have no idea!!! Buying this combo program 5.5G opening day, no lie at all. I was confused as to why you would build in 5G for it, you've always seemed to want to build things in the best way possible at the time of construction. I figured it was a time issue, but I'm glad you are doing it in 5.5G now, this should REALLY change many lives! This is an amazing surprise, I was wishing they'd be combined in a mini SM3 in 5.5G! VERY exciting! Awesome program...simply awesome.

Also, the thought that now you'd have a 5.5G template to create further works in, also fantastic for everyone to hear. From what you said, it seems it will have more tech/power than EHPRA 2.0. Being that it will be built out from some unknown custom program that Andrew has had made for him. That program, whatever it is, sounds like it is even more beastly than EHPRA 2.0. Very interesting, more power and increasing gentleness alongside is good, onward and upward, I guess that's progress. It's amazing, it just seems like weeks ago, OF5G was the beast of IML, now that's been eclipsed by EHPRA 2.0, it seems that program's reign will be short-lived. Looking forward to the 6G backport goodness in this program...maybe even more ones than EHPRA 2.0 had, makes sense as you're gaining more and more knowledge about how to implement stuff as time goes on. Honestly, this program will change lives, man. Wow, you are outdoing yourself constantly. I greatly respect that.

I'm also not too comfortable with that "gender neutral" thing, not a fan of awkward, undesirable situations popping up. That's why I liked SM3's strong signal of heterosexuality bulletpoint, because earlier versions of that apparently had issues with gay men going after listeners. If you say it's fine, then okay we have to accept that, maybe you've learned new tricks to implement it since then I guess...

Overall, a very positive update. Not just for this new BIATBWS+AOS 5.5G, but for the new 5.5G template itself, allowing you a platform to develop future 5.5G programs! Wonderful. Absolutely wonderful!

When I came here to talk exactly about this, CatMan had said everything I thought of saying and then more! Lol.

Super excited that AoS+BIATBWS 5.5G is happening! And 5.5G skeleton is being worked on too? It just keeps getting better. If Shannon did manage to include manifesting hot "beautiful people of the gender your attracted to" approaching the user and asking for sex, that'd be the shit!! Regardless, I'm sticking with E2, but when the time comes, I'm gonna use that magic sex sub so hard!

[chaosvrgn]

Shannon --

In future releases of AM, is it possible to have a sales page similar to BASE 5g, where we can see what modules are in which stages?

I'm not sure if you remember, but a few weeks ago, I asked you if E2 would help me with this "sleep drive" that I've dealt with since high school. Well, I'm in the third stage of my second AM6 run and after dealing with about two weeks of intense, intense resistance, something "broke" in my mind one morning -- in a good way, though. I've never felt resistance like that before -- there was a moment that lasted about 20 minutes where I actually considered doing some really self-destructive things, but ended up laying on the ground in the fetal position. I turned the volume up on AM6 and pushed through, and a few days later, I felt a "snap" in my mind and that sleep drive has decreased by 50%. It still occurs, but it's totally manageable right now. I'd love to know what part of stage 3 caused something that's affected my life so deeply to finally start to heal. I think knowing what's in the various stages COULD help people with resistance a lot because we'd know what to work on. On the flipside, I guess it could make things worse if that person is too resistant to letting go.

EDIT: Also, I just want to add that I'm really in awe at not only your knowledge and expertise in creating these subliminals, but also your moral convictions to helping people like this. I mean, I'm sure you could easily take the left-hand path and use subliminals to make yourself rich through manipulation, but it's awesome that you're going this route. Thanks much for that.

[apollolux]

I'm also not a fan of AOS+BIABWS 5.5G being "gender neutral" since that might dilute its efficacy over something more direct.

Yeah, because you aren't smart enough to know the difference, right? lol

Let's see how hard this really is.

Gender specific version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful women.

Gender neutral version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to.

They mean and say exactly the same thing, except that doing a gender specific version takes 2-3 times more time. Gender neutral works for any gender and any sexual preference in just one program.

Oh ye of little faith. Or in this case, common sense. When are you guys going to figure out that yes, I actually do know what I'm doing?

My concern isn't over your knowledge or skill set, it's about processing. I know that you insist the subconscious mind can process a much larger and denser amount of data than the conscious mind can, and I know that consciously "beautiful women" can be equivalent to "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," but "women" is objectively simpler to understand (i.e. takes less energy and effort to process successfully) than "people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," takes less time to input which allows the space that would have been occupied by the longer statement to be instead occupied with other script, and there's less likelihood of the qualifiers after "people" being ignored or downplayed by a potentially lazy subconscious.

Also, with another processing analogy, "beautiful women" may result in one set of neural pathways firing to associate the prompt with the mind's recollection of beautiful women, while "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to" may take more time and/or effort to process because it may process in parts, drilling down like the more general "beautiful people" first then having to expend effort (however significant or insignificant) to filter to those "of the gender I am sexually attracted to," potentially processing that in parts like "of the gender I am" (which is male in this example) then having to process "sexually attracted to" and expend more effort linking the two clauses together to make the proper filter.

I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, Shannon, I'm simply looking to present an alternative argument for simpler, more overt and obvious wording based on the fact that it's not quite conclusive how the subconscious definitively and undisputedly processes data, though you without question seem to have come the closest of anyone I've encountered so far to finding out that answer. Also, I would think the trade off of writing a shorter script that would only need a Find & Replace All to change "women" to "men" would be more beneficial than writing a longer script that is gender neutral.

[wolverine_i_am]

I am very excited for the AOS+BIATBWS 5.5G. I'll be using SM3 next, but I'd also like to run a single stage sub in between to try out new things, so I am seriously considering buying this.

My concern is that I am also not too sure about the gender neutral statements. I know "beautiful people of the gender I'm sexually attracted to" works, although wouldn't "beautiful women" be a lot more efficient for the subconscious to process? The other thing is that I'm assuming the majority of your customer base are heterosexual males (correct me if I'm wrong). Would it be possible to make two different versions catered for different genders / orientation types? Just like how there's alpha male, alpha male for gay men, and alpha female. Thanks in advance for considering.

[Darkness]

I'm also not a fan of AOS+BIABWS 5.5G being "gender neutral" since that might dilute its efficacy over something more direct.

Yeah, because you aren't smart enough to know the difference, right? lol

Let's see how hard this really is.

Gender specific version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful women.

Gender neutral version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to.

They mean and say exactly the same thing, except that doing a gender specific version takes 2-3 times more time. Gender neutral works for any gender and any sexual preference in just one program.

Oh ye of little faith. Or in this case, common sense. When are you guys going to figure out that yes, I actually do know what I'm doing?

My concern isn't over your knowledge or skill set, it's about processing. I know that you insist the subconscious mind can process a much larger and denser amount of data than the conscious mind can, and I know that consciously "beautiful women" can be equivalent to "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," but "women" is objectively simpler to understand (i.e. takes less energy and effort to process successfully) than "people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," takes less time to input which allows the space that would have been occupied by the longer statement to be instead occupied with other script, and there's less likelihood of the qualifiers after "people" being ignored or downplayed by a potentially lazy subconscious.

Also, with another processing analogy, "beautiful women" may result in one set of neural pathways firing to associate the prompt with the mind's recollection of beautiful women, while "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to" may take more time and/or effort to process because it may process in parts, drilling down like the more general "beautiful people" first then having to expend effort (however significant or insignificant) to filter to those "of the gender I am sexually attracted to," potentially processing that in parts like "of the gender I am" (which is male in this example) then having to process "sexually attracted to" and expend more effort linking the two clauses together to make the proper filter.

I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, Shannon, I'm simply looking to present an alternative argument for simpler, more overt and obvious wording based on the fact that it's not quite conclusive how the subconscious definitively and undisputedly processes data, though you without question seem to have come the closest of anyone I've encountered so far to finding out that answer. Also, I would think the trade off of writing a shorter script that would only need a Find & Replace All to change "women" to "men" would be more beneficial than writing a longer script that is gender neutral.

I agree

Is there a way to make the new AOS just focus on the goal of sexiness. With the Biatbw for all genders to use it, have the suggestion be : becoming irresistibly attractive sexually . Nothing else please.

[Shannon]

I'm also not a fan of AOS+BIABWS 5.5G being "gender neutral" since that might dilute its efficacy over something more direct.

Yeah, because you aren't smart enough to know the difference, right? lol

Let's see how hard this really is.

Gender specific version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful women.

Gender neutral version:

I now make myself irresistibly attractive sexually to beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to.

They mean and say exactly the same thing, except that doing a gender specific version takes 2-3 times more time. Gender neutral works for any gender and any sexual preference in just one program.

Oh ye of little faith. Or in this case, common sense. When are you guys going to figure out that yes, I actually do know what I'm doing?

My concern isn't over your knowledge or skill set, it's about processing. I know that you insist the subconscious mind can process a much larger and denser amount of data than the conscious mind can, and I know that consciously "beautiful women" can be equivalent to "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," but "women" is objectively simpler to understand (i.e. takes less energy and effort to process successfully) than "people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," takes less time to input which allows the space that would have been occupied by the longer statement to be instead occupied with other script, and there's less likelihood of the qualifiers after "people" being ignored or downplayed by a potentially lazy subconscious.

Also, with another processing analogy, "beautiful women" may result in one set of neural pathways firing to associate the prompt with the mind's recollection of beautiful women, while "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to" may take more time and/or effort to process because it may process in parts, drilling down like the more general "beautiful people" first then having to expend effort (however significant or insignificant) to filter to those "of the gender I am sexually attracted to," potentially processing that in parts like "of the gender I am" (which is male in this example) then having to process "sexually attracted to" and expend more effort linking the two clauses together to make the proper filter.

I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, Shannon, I'm simply looking to present an alternative argument for simpler, more overt and obvious wording based on the fact that it's not quite conclusive how the subconscious definitively and undisputedly processes data, though you without question seem to have come the closest of anyone I've encountered so far to finding out that answer. Also, I would think the trade off of writing a shorter script that would only need a Find & Replace All to change "women" to "men" would be more beneficial than writing a longer script that is gender neutral.

I agree

Is there a way to make the new AOS just focus on the goal of sexiness. With the Biatbw for all genders to use it, have the suggestion be : becoming irresistibly attractive sexually . Nothing else please.

Let's say that you are a heterosexual male, and we give you a program that generates an aura focused on becoming irresistibly attractive sexually".

This is relatively specific, but it allows for situations like:

* You attract gay men.
* You attract bisexual men.

This leads to a lot of unwanted and uncomfortable attention and we have already seen this happen in the past, which is why I specified "beautiful women" in the past, and will not leave the script ambiguous enough to achieve the same result, either way in the next version.

[Shannon]

holy hell!

Shannon will the manifestation part of the script include something similar or along the lines of this:

"The beautiful women I attract now effortlessly approach me and act on their interest and attraction in obvious, aggressive and direct ways."

That was in BIATBW but wasn't included in the BIATBWS's script last time I checked, just thought I'd mention this.

Mebbe. We shall see. I'm working on the OE section right now. Haven't gotten that far.

Awesome, truly appreciate your work!

Reason behind me mentioning this is during my BIATBW 4G run for like two weeks after 1 week I got very strong/direct responses in a short space of time and I'm certain it was that piece of the script working its magic.

I was wondering, how will this program deal with resistance e.g. shame/guilt/fear. I'm guessing it will be less of a problem/issue when in comparison to a program that contains much more goals like the larger 5G Subs. Would you say due to this containing fewer goals it won't require a module to address shame/guilt/fear based resistance?

It's going to basically bypass guilt, shame and fear on the one hand, and cause you to neutralize and outgrow any such that would prevent success on the other hand. It's not so much the number of goals, but how the primary goals and the implied goals interact within the script, and how I am achieving the goals.

[Shannon]

Shannon's making my life pretty freakin' hard right now. I was SO set on E2 for six months after I finished this run of AM6 (currently in Stage 4)... Now, here he is working on even more awesome products and stuff. Must stay strong, must make the purchase I know I NEED rather than what sounds fun...

Be strong. A healthy man is a sexy man.

[Shannon]

My concern isn't over your knowledge or skill set, it's about processing. I know that you insist the subconscious mind can process a much larger and denser amount of data than the conscious mind can, and I know that consciously "beautiful women" can be equivalent to "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," but "women" is objectively simpler to understand (i.e. takes less energy and effort to process successfully) than "people of the gender I am sexually attracted to," takes less time to input which allows the space that would have been occupied by the longer statement to be instead occupied with other script, and there's less likelihood of the qualifiers after "people" being ignored or downplayed by a potentially lazy subconscious.

Objectively simpler for the conscious mind to understand, maybe. The subconscious has so much capability that it is completely irrelevant. In developing the 6G prototype, I have been forced on many occasions to use much more intricate descriptions than that in an effort to achieve a specific goal, and believe me, it works. Processing power is no problem at the level of complexity we are dealing with here. This is not going to be a monster script by any means. And as for how long it takes to input, with all the compression methods I have at my disposal now, that also becomes a complete non-issue. As for qualifiers being ignored or downplayed... or a "lazy subconscious"... I have to say that you're afraid of the dark on this one. Nothing gets ignored by the subconscious, and as far as I can see from more than 23 years of research, experimentation and study, it is not capable of laziness. Self sabotage? Maybe. But not laziness.

Also, with another processing analogy, "beautiful women" may result in one set of neural pathways firing to associate the prompt with the mind's recollection of beautiful women, while "beautiful people of the gender I am sexually attracted to" may take more time and/or effort to process because it may process in parts, drilling down like the more general "beautiful people" first then having to expend effort (however significant or insignificant) to filter to those "of the gender I am sexually attracted to," potentially processing that in parts like "of the gender I am" (which is male in this example) then having to process "sexually attracted to" and expend more effort linking the two clauses together to make the proper filter.

The difference you're talking about is the equivalent of a single find and replace operation, which for the subconscious is literally so quickly executed as to be instantaneous for all intents and purposes.

I'm not trying to belittle your efforts, Shannon, I'm simply looking to present an alternative argument for simpler, more overt and obvious wording based on the fact that it's not quite conclusive how the subconscious definitively and undisputedly processes data, though you without question seem to have come the closest of anyone I've encountered so far to finding out that answer. Also, I would think the trade off of writing a shorter script that would only need a Find & Replace All to change "women" to "men" would be more beneficial than writing a longer script that is gender neutral.

If after getting this far with the work I have done, I was not sure that this is the better way forward, would I have chosen it?

As for script length, that would not become an issue unless the script was over 100,000 words or so. It won't be. With the compression methods now at my disposal, I can actually achieve compression rates of as much as 1,600%, not the 1,200% I previously stated. The script length difference would be entirely inconsequential.

Contrast your suggestion versus the following alternative points:

Designing a gender specified version:

1. Requires at least 200% more time to build. Even if the script can be changed by a simple "find and replace" operation - which, even if it can, it can't, because I still have to go through it line by line to verify, which takes just as much time and energy - I still have to actually record and then build two or more programs instead of one.

2. That is time I could be using to build something else or do more research and development.

3. Gender specified potentially leaves out bisexuals.