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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 07:10 AM)Leo1990 Wrote:(05-22-2018, 02:17 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-21-2018, 05:51 PM)Leo1990 Wrote:(05-21-2018, 11:59 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-17-2018, 07:30 AM)Leo1990 Wrote: I dont know what the current versions entail (in suggestions and such), but it would be nice if later versions had suggestions that took into account people currently taking action towards the end goals of the program.
I don't understand what you mean.
What I meant to say was simply:
Does DMSI have suggestions for approaching women/seducing and being proactive (taking action) towards the end-goal of the program?
It seems to me that the only way to execute a seductive/sexy aura is to have experienced it already first-hand (outside of the program).
Whats your thoughts on this?
The whole point of DMSI is the goal of, they approach you, and you don't have to approach them.
If the only way to execute the aura were to have experienced it, we instantly have the chicken and egg problem, which cannot be the case because so many people have executed the aura.
My experience with women has taught me that women are generally not the pursuers. Some exceptions exists (older women, when alcohol is involved), but generally women do not pursue men especially when "society" deems it to be wrong.
Generally, they are not pursuers. They are not required to, they are punished for it, they are taught not to, and men do it for them. But they can and will pursue, given the right person. DMSI is trying to make you that person.
Quote:May I suggest adding something into DMSI that at the very least allows the listener (when executing) to notice IoI's (Indicators of Interest) and make the first move, in which case then the woman knows he is interested and has the opportunity to "seduce" him?
You want versions 2.5 through 3.1. 3.2 removes the "meet them half way" training wheels to show me what I still need to do to accomplish getting them to approach and pursue you. You doing it for them does not help me see what they are thinking and wanting if you do it for them.
Quote:I don't see this working well for men who do nothing and aren't willing to take any action at all.
That's because most of the guys it is working for don't post here anymore.
Quote:Yesterday, I approached a foreign girl on the street and took her to a bar 15 minutes later. Unfortunately the logistics did not work out for taking her home that day (or at least trying to), so we will be meeting on Friday.
But if I hadn't taken that first action... nothing would have happened- just as @SargeMaximusis saying.
DMSI isn't finished yet, and each step I need to be able to see what its failings are so I can work on them. The next version is where I focus on the aura and its effectiveness, and powering it more. I wanted to do that in 3.2, but the custom forced my hand on what I had time to build into it.
We will get there. Not every step is going to be what we want it to be, but every step will show me what needs to be improved and added.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - 4Kingdoms - 05-22-2018
https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Journals-Shannon-s-Journal-Volume-2-?pid=197348#pid197348
Shannon Wrote:Okay, I am done gathering data on 1 and 2 loops. You are free to use however many loops you like until I release 3.3.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 08:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: DMSI isn't finished yet, and each step I need to be able to see what its failings are so I can work on them. The next version is where I focus on the aura and its effectiveness, and powering it more. I wanted to do that in 3.2, but the custom forced my hand on what I had time to build into it.
I would reconsider reactivating the aura shielding for 3.3, simply because it is pointless to have all energy available if it gets stolen/used by other people. So at the end you could end up with less energy available than with activated aura shielding.
EDIT: Another thing comes in my mind, until now we tried to make the women overcome the social programming in regard to approaching men. But the thing is with rock stars etc. they do anyway. I think I remember James Hetfield from Metallica saying once that women come into the showers after the show to have sex with them. So maybe we don't need that much to change this programming but instead we should let women see us as a person where these rules do not apply if she wanna have some fun. Or we simply try both ways.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Dmitry - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:09 AM)Mr. Anderson Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:36 AM)Shannon Wrote: DMSI isn't finished yet, and each step I need to be able to see what its failings are so I can work on them. The next version is where I focus on the aura and its effectiveness, and powering it more. I wanted to do that in 3.2, but the custom forced my hand on what I had time to build into it.
I would reconsider reactivating the aura shielding for 3.3, simply because it is pointless to have all energy available if it gets stolen/used by other people. So at the end you could end up with less energy available than with activated aura shielding.
I fully plan to re-activate it in 3.3, and that was the plan all along. I was looking for a way to reduce energy output and I wanted to do contrast testing to see definitively what the shielding was doing. I also wanted you guys to see what it was doing. Sometimes, I turn things off because I want some of you to see what they were doing.
Quote:EDIT: Another thing comes in my mind, until now we tried to make the women overcome the social programming in regard to approaching men. But the thing is with rock stars etc. they do anyway. I think I remember James Hetfield from Metallica saying once that women come into the showers after the show to have sex with them. So maybe we don't need that much to change this programming but instead we should let women see us as a person where these rules do not apply if she wanna have some fun. Or we simply try both ways.
The goal is to trigger the responder to see you as being so high value, so special so exceptional and so attractive - for whatever reason - that indeed, the rules that apply to everyone else do not apply to you. That's the whole thing I have been trying to tell you guys all along. It's not impossible , we just need to figure out how to do it, because there is that "exceptions to the rule" category.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:10 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
If I can perfect it, that is a possibility.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - lano1106 - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:10 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
It is like become famous like Brett Cohen ;-)
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - THolt - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:22 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:10 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 07:32 AM)kingpill Wrote: @Shannon , can you explain the celebrity effect in more detail please?
What I mean is there are different kind of celebrities that will have a different effect on individuals. What kind of effect DMSI's celebrity entail?
Thanks
The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
If I can perfect it, that is a possibility.
I second this. A charisma-celebrity effect would be very cool.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:33 AM)THolt Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:22 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:10 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:40 AM)Shannon Wrote: The celebrity effect is designed to cause the affected to perceive you as being high value like a celebrity would be perceived to be. Like you are famous. This is one of the most powerful and successful ways of causing people to be attracted to you and accepting of you, even without knowing you yet. In fact if I can perfect it, it will be a large part of what gets women to approach you and initiate sex with you in public, without even knowing your name. We are trying to create the effect that Elvis had, the Beatles, Michael Jackson, etc. - total attraction.
This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
If I can perfect it, that is a possibility.
I second this. A charisma-celebrity effect would be very cool.
Isn’t that what Shannon is trying to do with DMSI?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 05-22-2018
(05-22-2018, 10:38 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:33 AM)THolt Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:22 AM)Shannon Wrote:(05-22-2018, 10:10 AM)Dmitry Wrote:(05-22-2018, 08:59 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote: This is so exciting!
Wow! I want celebrity effect as stand alone sub! Charisma, Attraction and Celebrity all in one! I like Shannon’s explanation.
If I can perfect it, that is a possibility.
I second this. A charisma-celebrity effect would be very cool.
Isn’t that what Shannon is trying to do with DMSI?
Yes. Ever since day one. It'll get an upgrade in 3.3 and 3.4, though.
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Zane - 05-22-2018
Shannon did u find anyway to make Wall more effective in terms of escape?
RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - zero_force - 05-22-2018
@Shannon regarding your latest journal entry.
Are you saying that we are free to experiment with whatever loops we would like and see what works for us?
If so any pointers on how to do that?