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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shadow2200 - 01-05-2019

4.4FRM/ anti fear mod. hopefully shannon has another breakthrough and takes it up to 4.5 before he updates it in DMSI 3.3.1-D


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-05-2019

(01-05-2019, 05:52 PM)firsthelix Wrote:
(01-02-2019, 06:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(01-02-2019, 06:00 AM)firsthelix Wrote:
(12-20-2018, 08:00 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-19-2018, 02:33 PM)blth Wrote: Shannon can you explain a little bit how important non masturbation is on dmsi and why, how it helps the end goal etc?

Masturbation is the release of sexual energy, among other things. That sexual energy is both a form and source of energy, and a form and source of motivation to achieve sex.

When you have a lot of that sexual energy, you are motivated to do something about it. The goal is to use that energy to make yourself more sexually attractive. The way to defeat that goal is to jerk off.

DMSI is not designed to prevent you from socializing or approaching if you want to. It is designed to maximize how sexually attractive you are, and part of how it does that is by causing you to generate more sexual energy, so that there is more SEX in your aura with which to affect those around you.

The more sexual energy you have, the more sexually attractive and arousing you become, even without the help of DMSI. DMSI uses that sexual energy to achieve it's goals.

Masturbating interrupts that.

I agree! But what about masturbating without jerking off? The old Taoists and Tantrists equally have ways to pull that energy through the chakras while keeping the juice in the body. They believe everytime you ejaculate you waste some of your life energy.

This post violates Rule 4, discussing religion. Please refrain from doing that in the future.

When you expend the energy that drives you to achieve sex, or circumvent it, you reduce or remove the motivation it provides. If the goal of DMSI is to result in sex, then anything that reduces or removes the motivation to achieve the goal instead of hide is going to be detrimental. The question is, does that apply to what you're talking about?

Thanks for the reply, Shannon, I appreciate it! Your reminder of violating rule #4 is unnecessary. If you read my post closely, you will learn that in no way did I "discuss religion". I mentioned the source of the energy work for illustration purposes, as it is known and accepted as the foundation of Traditional Chinese Medicin (TCM) and TBH I am a little astonished you don't seem to be familiar with this. By no means, I am interested in the religious context of anything here but the practical application of things.

Hope this clarifies things!

I see your point. The above post was made while I was sick enough to be slightly out of it, as has been evidenced also by my lowered skill in driving lately.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - maxx55 - 01-06-2019

So you’re saying don’t try to do anything to stop feeling horny or frustrated. DMSI will take care of that?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Williamx25 - 01-06-2019

(01-06-2019, 12:43 AM)maxx55 Wrote: So you’re saying don’t try to do anything to stop feeling horny or frustrated. DMSI will take care of that?

Yes, especially with the new updated FRM coming up. It will crush through our fears and then we’ll start executing.

Nofap is very important and very real. You have a sexual aura building up, if you jerk off you’re just sabotaging everything.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 01-06-2019

Hi Shannon,
Are you able to give a estimate on when E3 may be released in terms of a month this year? February/March?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-06-2019

(01-05-2019, 06:06 PM)firsthelix Wrote:
(01-02-2019, 06:53 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(01-02-2019, 06:07 AM)firsthelix Wrote:
(12-20-2018, 08:05 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-19-2018, 02:35 PM)josh84 Wrote: Thanks shannon, i will try changing the volume on vlc media player on the next cycle, tonight is the last night of trickling stream hybrid and will drop vlc media player volume to 75%. After the 2 day break will move onto ocean surf hybrid and will try between 50 and 75% and see if the lower volumes will work better for me.

Just seeing that 12 of 15 volume is recommended and others having volume up loud is why i had been doing it that way but will decrease volume for the cycles from now on and see how it goes.

Would 10% decrease be equal to one notch on a phone?

A volume of 12 is recommended for Jake. Not for everyone. There is a high correlation between a volume of 10-12-13-14-15 for Beast, but I haven't tested DMSI, etc. I am recommending 12/15 to Jake because it is known across several different programs (Beast, MIR, ARA, USLM, SE, DNWS, GPR) to be the sweet spot for execution from resistant personalities when you are using a cell phone.

You will have to use a volume meter to know what the equivalent volume is for VLC, and you have to take into account volume at the source (speaker) and distance from speaker to ear. Even that isn't perfect because some phones have speakers positioned at different distances from their microphones, which may translate into a different volume than 12.

Interesting! How does that translate for iPhone users with no volume indication?

Reason #374 not to use Apple products? The only thing you can do at that point is to use an app like FrequenSee and estimate volume based on dB, but even that is not ideal because the speaker's proximity to the microphone is different on all phones.

Thanks for your reply!

Only lately did my impression increase that volume levels are that crucial. If that is the case, you might wanna be interested to make your products as effective for either phone device, meaning there should be instructions how to achieve the same level of effectiveness for any kind of phones. iPhone is a reality, whether you like it or not and a big part of your "market" uses Apple products in one way or another. With other words, you can't provide everybody using iPhones switching to Android just because your products can't be made to work as effective as on Androids.

Just my 2 cents...

Volume affects the results. It is not a simple interaction, however, and I had not mentioned any specific volume previously because

A) I was seeking a way to auto-adjust the volumetric effects internally within the mind (apparently not possible for some reason) and
B) I knew that people would jump on it as being more than it is.

As it stands, I cannot hope to test my programs on every make and model of phone, or influence manufacturers to stop making stupid decisions about how they do their software or hardware. So instructions for every make and model of phone or playback device is just not reasonable.

As it stands, any loss of effectiveness on an iPhone is Apple's doing, not mine, since theoretically (given their pedigree) Apple phones should be providing superior hardware for audio playback. I don't know if that is the case since Jobs died, but I do know that Apple products are typically designed to force a situation where simplicity and aesthetics outweighs choice in execution and common sense decisions of design, like showing you how many ticks you have on the volume.

I create subliminals. I don't create iphones or OS-X or Android builds. If your phone can't play my subliminals effectively as a result, it is neither my fault nor my concern. You are responsible for the hardware you play it on, and if you want to play it on a phone designed to be trendy instead of functional, then you will have to deal with that or play it on something else. Or, perhaps you can do some research and find out how many "clicks" that phone has.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-06-2019

(01-05-2019, 06:53 PM)firsthelix Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 10:50 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(01-04-2019, 03:13 AM)Greenduck Wrote: Shannon, I am contemplating my last relationship where I somewhat got overly attached to the girl, and still in some way am. It's mostly related to a sexual attachment. I haven't experienced this with other girls I have had sex with or being together with, just with her. It's like there is a damn gravitational pull, where I can do anything to get to sleep with her, even loosing myself. I wrote a post about it here if you have time to look it over.

I guess that E2 will take care of it with enough time, but what would really benefit me, would to better understand what causes this kind of attachment in your understanding? Lack of own direction for example? Is it something the girl does that create the situation? An energetic connection? The girl manipulating the male ego? I feel pretty lost on the issue...

First, it may or may not just be you. People have different personalities and personal energies, and some of them are incredibly attractive and responsive to one another. What you describe is a type of personality that has an incredibly powerful sexual gravity which is intoxicating and almost impossible to ignore for those susceptible to it.

I'm not going to say this is the case for you, but I have had a girlfriend or two with that and it extended so far as to become a form of mind control for me, I literally had to exit her presence for a couple weeks before I was able to think and see straight again. It took me a solid two years to break up with her, and several more to be entirely done with her. Sometimes this sort of influence is incredibly powerful.

This can also have to do with pre-existing interactions which are beyond the obvious.

What you have is a situation that demands growth from you. Whatever else may be the case, you must outgrow something that holds you in place with regard to this response to her.

I experienced the same during my 10-year marriage. Sex was incredible, from the first to the last day, so that I didn't pay attention to the red flags of other areas. IMO it has nothing to do with mind control since she didn't initiate anything on purpose. It was rather me losing my masculine center and the ability to detach after passion.

When I said "mind control" I was talking about how her influence on me altered my perception of reality. It altered my emotional state artificially, my perception of reality, my willingness and ability to accept her behavior, and behavior I had never before, have never since and will never again accept from anyone, never mind a woman. When I was away from her for at least 2 weeks, I came back to my senses and could see clearly again, and could act from my logic instead of my emotions and sex drive. There was no withdrawal. It wasn't a "loss of my masculine center", it was a form of manipulation and control that she was enacting over me with energy and sex, because I had not yet grown past the place where she was unable to do that. In effect, at that time, I had not achieved an established masculine center. I was growing into having one, and I could not let go or be free until I had one. That is about half of why I created the Alpha Male Training Program for myself, and developed V2 while I was with her.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 01-06-2019

(01-06-2019, 12:43 AM)maxx55 Wrote: So you’re saying don’t try to do anything to stop feeling horny or frustrated. DMSI will take care of that?

What do you suppose it is that motivates you to achieve the goals of the programs at a conscious level? Why would you try to stop being horny and frustrated by masturbating, when you can use that as motivation and fuel to achieve the goals of the program? What I'm saying is, stop hiding from achieving the program goals and use what you have to motivate you to achieve them instead!

DMSI is doing it's thing. You have to stop trying to short circuit because it's easier.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 01-06-2019

(01-06-2019, 09:03 AM)Shannon Wrote: As it stands, any loss of effectiveness on an iPhone is Apple's doing, not mine, since theoretically (given their pedigree) Apple phones should be providing superior hardware for audio playback. I don't know if that is the case since Jobs died, but I do know that Apple products are typically designed to force a situation where simplicity and aesthetics outweighs choice in execution and common sense decisions of design, like showing you how many ticks you have on the volume.

The iPhone has an indicator when you try to regulate the volume outside of the app. At least every iPhone I had had the indicator.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Oversoul - 01-06-2019

I feel like the biggest badass on the new DMSI.

And funnily enough, it seems to have worked on my fears that were related to work as much as or more than USLM.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Greenduck - 01-06-2019

(01-06-2019, 12:43 AM)maxx55 Wrote: So you’re saying don’t try to do anything to stop feeling horny or frustrated. DMSI will take care of that?

The best method for using difficult emotions for growth have been to fully embrace them for me. Just let yourself feel them without needing to take action to relieve them. This will create anxiety in the beginning, but as you become better to fully embrace the emotions, the anxiety will decrease and peace and ability to use them for fuelling the goals of the program (as Shannon is talking about above) will become a more possible option. Feel them in your body and try to do exactly the opposite of what you probably have conditioned yourself to over time, try to feel the emotion how much you can. It's like a muscle, the more you train it, the easier it will be. But you cannot give up in the process.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - lano1106 - 01-06-2019

(01-05-2019, 06:06 PM)firsthelix Wrote: Only lately did my impression increase that volume levels are that crucial. If that is the case, you might wanna be interested to make your products as effective for either phone device, meaning there should be instructions how to achieve the same level of effectiveness for any kind of phones. iPhone is a reality, whether you like it or not and a big part of your "market" uses Apple products in one way or another. With other words, you can't provide everybody using iPhones switching to Android just because your products can't be made to work as effective as on Androids.

Just my 2 cents...

I have never seen any singer/music producer providing the best volume settings to listen to their material.

I just use common sense. Adjust the volume until you are satisfied of the result. imho, that seems a bit unreasonable to expect someone giving you the ideal volume settings for your phone.

Something else to consider is if audio quality is important to you, you would have done some research about which device is best for that.

Audio quality is important to me and for that reason iPhones have never been under my radar.

I got myself a nice LG G7 which AFAIK have one of the best speaker for a mobile and it sports 2 Hi-Fi Quad (32 bits) DAC when using a headset...


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - THolt - 01-07-2019

@Shannon

How is LTU 5.5G coming along? I hope you are recovering from your illness?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - ncbeareatingman - 01-07-2019

Testimonial time here, yeah like almost every time I post is testimonial time, when using USLM3!!
Found some long lost friends,after 37 friggin' years ok!! we've spoken,since we reconnected, fer hours and it looks like the connections there of are deepening even more so. We all knew each other in NYC back in the early 80's...and since. we lost touch as we moved on with our lives,but no animosity or the like....Its like finding a part of my long lost family really!! Three good men,all of us musicians back then and they still are now...all 3 Men, long married with grown kids now... USLM3 Is flippin amazing,my second full month completed and starting into my 3rd month on this awesome sucka ,Today!!
why wouldnt I wanna use a program like this for the rest of my time on earth!!? I Mean really!! ever higher and moving forward. Dig,and even better things to come forth this year from IML!! dayummm sam!! Keith.
1/7/19