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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 07:42 AM)lano1106 Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:52 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:42 AM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 08:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 04:18 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hmm I see.

Once FRM 4.2 is finished, Shannon is it possible to upload like DMSI 3.35 or something that the only new addition is FRM 4.2, or is that too much work? This sleep disturbance thing may be pretty significant of a thing for me, and others too maybe.

Building DMSI is no small feat. I do not have the time in my schedule to do that. Because of DMSI being a free upgrade and the cycle screwing with us as much as it has, I have a serious need to fund this business, and delays cannot happen. I have accomplished the sale, and the list of subliminals I have to build to finish the task at hand must go according to schedule or else. Therefore, you may find FRM 4.2 in LTU and later, but it will not be in 3.3-D, and for 3.3-C to be valid for testing, I cannot upgrade any part of it. The only difference it can have from 3.3-D is to have the H&C turned on.

So FRM 4.2+ will be in LTU, USLM4, UMOP3, E3, UMS, etc. - but unfortunately you will have to wait for DMSI 3.4 to see a FRM upgrade in DMSI.

That said, sleep disturbance is relatively isolated. If you haven't experienced it already, it is unlikely that you will.

Hey @Shannon

It occurs to me the best way to make a business a success is to generate recurring revenue... Say if you 'licensed' the use of each program for each user and charged a monthly licensing fee. What if you added a script similar to anti piracy that stopped the script from working if the current months fees had not been paid.

This way you can obtain a continuity income which will allow you to put the business on a solid financial footing and free up your focus to access greater amounts of your geniusWink

You could for instance use this pricing model for the perceived expensive subs or for all subs. Either way it could provide a tremendous uplift for your business.

Hope you like this idea.

Have a great day

Thanks for the suggestion. I'm looking at various options for how to adjust and improve IML's business model. I'd like it to be win-win of course. We shall see what happens in the next year or two, but I would definitely like to get off the endlessly building new subs because we need to fund the business train. I plan to have a huge variety of titles in 6G, but I also will need continuity of income once I have done that. 6G is going to be the end of the road for development for a while, since I need to build out that huge library, and I need both 6G and that huge library so I can have the time to have and raise some kidlings.

I raised the point yesterday but

1. your idea to let people to buy back their discount to access future upgrades is brilliant. It is some form of risk-free trial period like what is offered by direct mail marketers. For the clients, it allows them to try products they wouldn't try without the initial discount. And once they are onboarded and hooked with the result, they are going become periodic upgrade buyers.

I'm just looking for a way to make this work for everybody.

Quote:2. Mailing list is possibly underused. I feel like it is only the hardcore minority of your clients hangs here in the forum. AFAIK, only people come here often did hear about your ridiculous december sale. If buyers and online forum users were all automatically subscribed to your mailing list, the pool of people informed of IML promotions, new products release and upgrades would increased by a lot.

We so far have tried hard to use the mailing list as little as possible to prevent annoying people, but I suspect you are right. However, we don't autosubscribe people for that very same reason. Perhaps we will have to come up with something to get people to subscribe more actively, but I'm not sure I am comfortable with subscribing people without their consent.

Quote:3. Your product library is HUGE. My best wish is that at some point, you only develop new programs because you like doing that and this is what you want to. Not because you have to... Possibly something to explore is advertising. I have heard about DMSI and your business from ear to mouth from a friend. Otherwise, I would have never heard about all of this. How many more people in the world is in that situation? My bet is a lot. IMHO, you have enough products. What you need is more prospects.

The library is huge, but it is fractured into different levels of technology. The medium term goal is to build out the whole thing in 6G before I really start working on building a lot of titles I don't already have. This will make the library huge AND consistent in how powerful and effective it is. It's also going to take a considerable amount of time to do that, but 6G has been carefully designed to make the process about 5x faster than it would have been using the old 5G methods of program development. We are gearing up for advertising differently in the future, but as I said, we have to get Andrew and I back on track health-wise to be able to make the business thrive, and I am expecting that situation to change dramatically in the next year.

Quote:4. I do refer people to your products when they ask me help with their problems but I would definitely do it on a much bigger scale if you had some sort of affiliate program... If you had one, I would participate in... I'm sure that I would easily be in position to become in your top 5 affiliates...

The affiliate program is something we have had on the back burner for a long time because of various factors outside of our control. My hope is that that lack of control has been caused by this cycle that has been affecting me, and that come 2019, we will be able to re-establish the affiliate system. The only issue then will be weeding out the people who will inevitably try to scam us through the affiliate system again and preventing affiliates from advertising in ways that are unethical.

Quote:IMHO, you need more traffic, more prospects... Not more products...

We need more traffic, more prospects, a consistent product line, and a technology set that can overcome at least 95% of the resistances people may have to succeeding. We need better a YouTube presence, a better social media presence, an affiliate system and a way for people to access the more expensive programs from a payment plan or monthly fee of some type.

I greatly appreciate your interest in helping by making these suggestions, and I'm looking forward to seeing some (if not all of) these changes take place in 2019 and 2020. When we do have an affiliate program again, I hope to see you and many others fairly benefiting from it.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 07:55 AM)Paul1131 Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:42 AM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 08:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 04:18 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hmm I see.

Once FRM 4.2 is finished, Shannon is it possible to upload like DMSI 3.35 or something that the only new addition is FRM 4.2, or is that too much work? This sleep disturbance thing may be pretty significant of a thing for me, and others too maybe.

Building DMSI is no small feat. I do not have the time in my schedule to do that. Because of DMSI being a free upgrade and the cycle screwing with us as much as it has, I have a serious need to fund this business, and delays cannot happen. I have accomplished the sale, and the list of subliminals I have to build to finish the task at hand must go according to schedule or else. Therefore, you may find FRM 4.2 in LTU and later, but it will not be in 3.3-D, and for 3.3-C to be valid for testing, I cannot upgrade any part of it. The only difference it can have from 3.3-D is to have the H&C turned on.

So FRM 4.2+ will be in LTU, USLM4, UMOP3, E3, UMS, etc. - but unfortunately you will have to wait for DMSI 3.4 to see a FRM upgrade in DMSI.

That said, sleep disturbance is relatively isolated. If you haven't experienced it already, it is unlikely that you will.

Hey @Shannon

It occurs to me the best way to make a business a success is to generate recurring revenue... Say if you 'licensed' the use of each program for each user and charged a monthly licensing fee. What if you added a script similar to anti piracy that stopped the script from working if the current months fees had not been paid.

This way you can obtain a continuity income which will allow you to put the business on a solid financial footing and free up your focus to access greater amounts of your geniusWink

You could for instance use this pricing model for the perceived expensive subs or for all subs. Either way it could provide a tremendous uplift for your business.

Hope you like this idea.

Have a great day

This might be a great idea for some of the more expensive subs he’s planning on coming out with, if the initial outlay is reduced. For instance, $1800 for AM7 is quite a bit to cough up, so is the $900 I’d have to pay. However paying x amount a month wouldn’t be bad so long as it was fairly reasonable. If you’re suggesting that someone has to pay $1800 for the product and then a recurring fee after that, I think that would turn a lot of people off.

Keep in mind that AM and all of the multi-stage sets are offered in smaller chunks. In this case, AM7 will also be offered one stage at a time, so the cost will be ~$300 a pop, which is much easier than $1,800 or even $900. And you will still be eligible for the 50% upgrade discount when you buy it a stage at a time. The only difference at that point is, you are no longer getting Stage 7 for free.

I don't think it's reasonable to ask $1,800 or however much AM 7 turns out to be, and then have people pay a recurring fee after that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Choice - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 07:24 AM)Choice Wrote: @Shannon how is it going with the perfumy adventure? Is this something you plan to get back to in the future and perhaps even create a business selling those perfumes? There's so much potential I'm sure there are many people who will be eager to try them

Perfumery has been put down. Partly because Andrew is as yet not well enough to handle his end of the business (lab work, packaging, shipping) and because I have become progressively more prone to coughing in response to even the vapors from the closed vials. Allergy, sensitivity, whatever it is, I can't work with the chemistry anymore. I have to create a sub that will correct that, and so far I have not had much time to focus on that.

I'm going to make the third attempt to create that sub in 2019. The first two attempts have helped, but are not fully solving the problem. V2 of the program I created to fix the cough works slightly, and it works relatively well in conjunction with MHS, but I can't run that combination all the time. I'm confident I will find a permanent solution when I have the time to build the next version of the cough program and/or MHS, since I have some ideas for how to improve MHS that theoretically should make it vastly more powerful and effective for helping with almost anything.

I do yet have plans to do perfumery in the future. I just have to fix my lungs, and Andrew has to fix his issues. Both of which I am confident will happen.

I'm really happy to hear Shannon. This coughing problem has caused you much trouble so it's great that you have finally found a permenant solution to this and get rid of it forever. I do hope, however, that you will be able to find the time to build it earlier than expected because your health is no joke and should be given the utmost priority even if it's under control right now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 09:09 AM)Choice Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 08:11 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 07:24 AM)Choice Wrote: @Shannon how is it going with the perfumy adventure? Is this something you plan to get back to in the future and perhaps even create a business selling those perfumes? There's so much potential I'm sure there are many people who will be eager to try them

Perfumery has been put down. Partly because Andrew is as yet not well enough to handle his end of the business (lab work, packaging, shipping) and because I have become progressively more prone to coughing in response to even the vapors from the closed vials. Allergy, sensitivity, whatever it is, I can't work with the chemistry anymore. I have to create a sub that will correct that, and so far I have not had much time to focus on that.

I'm going to make the third attempt to create that sub in 2019. The first two attempts have helped, but are not fully solving the problem. V2 of the program I created to fix the cough works slightly, and it works relatively well in conjunction with MHS, but I can't run that combination all the time. I'm confident I will find a permanent solution when I have the time to build the next version of the cough program and/or MHS, since I have some ideas for how to improve MHS that theoretically should make it vastly more powerful and effective for helping with almost anything.

I do yet have plans to do perfumery in the future. I just have to fix my lungs, and Andrew has to fix his issues. Both of which I am confident will happen.

I'm really happy to hear Shannon. This coughing problem has caused you much trouble so it's great that you have finally found a permenant solution to this and get rid of it forever. I do hope, however, that you will be able to find the time to build it earlier than expected because your health is no joke and should be given the utmost priority even if it's under control right now.

I know I will solve my lung health. I'm not entirely sure how or exactly when yet. Have to get a few things accomplished first in terms of developing the tech, too. But it's coming.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - MasterEnki - 12-14-2018

@Shannon

Please keep the primary business / payment model based on pay-once, keep forever.

Monthly subscription should only be a secondary payment option. And monthly subscription should only apply to 6G.


One possible business / payment model option:

1 - people still have the option of paying once, and owning that particular program for life and being able to use it whenever they want, even in 50 years time.

2 - a secondary option of monthly subscription that applies to 6G only, and customers that choose to pay monthly have access to all 6G programs / entire library of 6G programs, while their monthly payments / account are up to date.


TL;DR - the current business model of pay-once, keep forever should still be the primary model.

Monthly subscription may be useful as a secondary model, alongside the primary model.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

The monthly subscription model has some serious drawbacks. I don't want it to be the primary model with those drawbacks.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 06:42 AM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 08:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 04:18 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hmm I see.

Once FRM 4.2 is finished, Shannon is it possible to upload like DMSI 3.35 or something that the only new addition is FRM 4.2, or is that too much work? This sleep disturbance thing may be pretty significant of a thing for me, and others too maybe.

Building DMSI is no small feat. I do not have the time in my schedule to do that. Because of DMSI being a free upgrade and the cycle screwing with us as much as it has, I have a serious need to fund this business, and delays cannot happen. I have accomplished the sale, and the list of subliminals I have to build to finish the task at hand must go according to schedule or else. Therefore, you may find FRM 4.2 in LTU and later, but it will not be in 3.3-D, and for 3.3-C to be valid for testing, I cannot upgrade any part of it. The only difference it can have from 3.3-D is to have the H&C turned on.

So FRM 4.2+ will be in LTU, USLM4, UMOP3, E3, UMS, etc. - but unfortunately you will have to wait for DMSI 3.4 to see a FRM upgrade in DMSI.

That said, sleep disturbance is relatively isolated. If you haven't experienced it already, it is unlikely that you will.

Hey @Shannon

It occurs to me the best way to make a business a success is to generate recurring revenue... Say if you 'licensed' the use of each program for each user and charged a monthly licensing fee. What if you added a script similar to anti piracy that stopped the script from working if the current months fees had not been paid.

This way you can obtain a continuity income which will allow you to put the business on a solid financial footing and free up your focus to access greater amounts of your geniusWink

You could for instance use this pricing model for the perceived expensive subs or for all subs. Either way it could provide a tremendous uplift for your business.

Hope you like this idea.

Have a great day

Somebody paying every single month they use a program otherwise it doesn't work? Can you imagine the uproar that would cause? I mean as a customer even though I work for IML I don't support a monthly fee for a program compared to buying it outright as is already done and is done for absolutely everything else you can purchase that is similar to this.

EDIT: It does sound like you're talking about a recurring fee forever, but if you're talking about a payment plan until it's paid that's different. But in the end it would end up with the same amount of money anyway.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Omni3 - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 03:28 PM)Benjamin Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:42 AM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 08:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 04:18 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hmm I see.

Once FRM 4.2 is finished, Shannon is it possible to upload like DMSI 3.35 or something that the only new addition is FRM 4.2, or is that too much work? This sleep disturbance thing may be pretty significant of a thing for me, and others too maybe.

Building DMSI is no small feat. I do not have the time in my schedule to do that. Because of DMSI being a free upgrade and the cycle screwing with us as much as it has, I have a serious need to fund this business, and delays cannot happen. I have accomplished the sale, and the list of subliminals I have to build to finish the task at hand must go according to schedule or else. Therefore, you may find FRM 4.2 in LTU and later, but it will not be in 3.3-D, and for 3.3-C to be valid for testing, I cannot upgrade any part of it. The only difference it can have from 3.3-D is to have the H&C turned on.

So FRM 4.2+ will be in LTU, USLM4, UMOP3, E3, UMS, etc. - but unfortunately you will have to wait for DMSI 3.4 to see a FRM upgrade in DMSI.

That said, sleep disturbance is relatively isolated. If you haven't experienced it already, it is unlikely that you will.

Hey @Shannon

It occurs to me the best way to make a business a success is to generate recurring revenue... Say if you 'licensed' the use of each program for each user and charged a monthly licensing fee. What if you added a script similar to anti piracy that stopped the script from working if the current months fees had not been paid.

This way you can obtain a continuity income which will allow you to put the business on a solid financial footing and free up your focus to access greater amounts of your geniusWink

You could for instance use this pricing model for the perceived expensive subs or for all subs. Either way it could provide a tremendous uplift for your business.

Hope you like this idea.

Have a great day

Somebody paying every single month they use a program otherwise it doesn't work? Can you imagine the uproar that would cause? I mean as a customer even though I work for IML I don't support a monthly fee for a program compared to buying it outright as is already done and is done for absolutely everything else you can purchase that is similar to this.

EDIT: It does sound like you're talking about a recurring fee forever, but if you're talking about a payment plan until it's paid that's different. But in the end it would end up with the same amount of money anyway.


I understand the various viewpoints here. The idea is to provide input to assist Shannon with securing his family's future as well as IML's. This in itself will free Shannon to focus more of this brilliance on furthering his tech.

I was suggesting a recurring payment model as some of the most successful companies in the world have a recurring payment model. Think Netflix, Amazon Prime, your mobile/cell phone contract, your wifi, electric, gas/heating, fuel for vehicle, tv license (in UK), etc.

Also there are many business software around that are licensed on a recurring payment model and the users pay the recurring for it as they see it as essential to their business. BASE/BAMM is a business essentialWink

Whilst it may not seem possible right now to go to a recurring model as it will break the mould - lets see what Shannon and IML is already doing...breaking the mould. Shannon is poised to break the mould... smash it to smithereens and hit the stratosphere by the look of things with 6G, particularly when you see whats been happening recently with FRM and word spreads. Recurring/membership/premium could be another industry first, as the tech will be so far ahead of the game.

It may alienate some current customers, so another option to consider: some marketers charge a one off fee during a launch phase of a product/service. Thus gaining early testimonials and keeping current customers on side and then switch to a recurring model for newer customers to sustain development over the longer term.

So, whilst it may have complications I feel it will be worth it and the recurring model is the only business model I am myself getting into.

Love and Peace To All


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

The idea with a payment plan would be along the lines of, you pay forever, but you only pay a small amount. Maybe $10 or $20 a month instead of $300, $500, whatever. But that would result in a dramatic lowering of the perceived value of the product. Which isn't good for a luxury product.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Omni3 - 12-14-2018

@Shannon

Like I say, I'm putting it out there, ultimately its your call and how you best see your business. In any case with all us USLM'rs banging our heads together we can all reap the rewards of this beautiful journey...(rule 4, rule 4, rule 4)


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 04:11 PM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 03:28 PM)Benjamin Wrote:
(12-14-2018, 06:42 AM)Djinnni Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 08:00 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(12-13-2018, 04:18 PM)dissonance Wrote: Hmm I see.

Once FRM 4.2 is finished, Shannon is it possible to upload like DMSI 3.35 or something that the only new addition is FRM 4.2, or is that too much work? This sleep disturbance thing may be pretty significant of a thing for me, and others too maybe.

Building DMSI is no small feat. I do not have the time in my schedule to do that. Because of DMSI being a free upgrade and the cycle screwing with us as much as it has, I have a serious need to fund this business, and delays cannot happen. I have accomplished the sale, and the list of subliminals I have to build to finish the task at hand must go according to schedule or else. Therefore, you may find FRM 4.2 in LTU and later, but it will not be in 3.3-D, and for 3.3-C to be valid for testing, I cannot upgrade any part of it. The only difference it can have from 3.3-D is to have the H&C turned on.

So FRM 4.2+ will be in LTU, USLM4, UMOP3, E3, UMS, etc. - but unfortunately you will have to wait for DMSI 3.4 to see a FRM upgrade in DMSI.

That said, sleep disturbance is relatively isolated. If you haven't experienced it already, it is unlikely that you will.

Hey @Shannon

It occurs to me the best way to make a business a success is to generate recurring revenue... Say if you 'licensed' the use of each program for each user and charged a monthly licensing fee. What if you added a script similar to anti piracy that stopped the script from working if the current months fees had not been paid.

This way you can obtain a continuity income which will allow you to put the business on a solid financial footing and free up your focus to access greater amounts of your geniusWink

You could for instance use this pricing model for the perceived expensive subs or for all subs. Either way it could provide a tremendous uplift for your business.

Hope you like this idea.

Have a great day

Somebody paying every single month they use a program otherwise it doesn't work? Can you imagine the uproar that would cause? I mean as a customer even though I work for IML I don't support a monthly fee for a program compared to buying it outright as is already done and is done for absolutely everything else you can purchase that is similar to this.

EDIT: It does sound like you're talking about a recurring fee forever, but if you're talking about a payment plan until it's paid that's different. But in the end it would end up with the same amount of money anyway.


I understand the various viewpoints here. The idea is to provide input to assist Shannon with securing his family's future as well as IML's. This in itself will free Shannon to focus more of this brilliance on furthering his tech.

I was suggesting a recurring payment model as some of the most successful companies in the world have a recurring payment model. Think Netflix, Amazon Prime, your mobile/cell phone contract, your wifi, electric, gas/heating, fuel for vehicle, tv license (in UK), etc.

Also there are many business software around that are licensed on a recurring payment model and the users pay the recurring for it as they see it as essential to their business. BASE/BAMM is a business essentialWink

Whilst it may not seem possible right now to go to a recurring model as it will break the mould - lets see what Shannon and IML is already doing...breaking the mould. Shannon is poised to break the mould... smash it to smithereens and hit the stratosphere by the look of things with 6G, particularly when you see whats been happening recently with FRM and word spreads. Recurring/membership/premium could be another industry first, as the tech will be so far ahead of the game.

It may alienate some current customers, so another option to consider: some marketers charge a one off fee during a launch phase of a product/service. Thus gaining early testimonials and keeping current customers on side and then switch to a recurring model for newer customers to sustain development over the longer term.

So, whilst it may have complications I feel it will be worth it and the recurring model is the only business model I am myself getting into.

Love and Peace To All

We will not be the first subliminals producer to market with the subscription model even if we adopt it. The cycle has made sure of that. You'll see that coming out by one of the newer producers of subliminals shortly.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 04:27 PM)Djinnni Wrote: @Shannon

Like I say, I'm putting it out there, ultimately its your call and how you best see your business. In any case with all us USLM'rs banging our heads together we can all reap the rewards of this beautiful journey...(rule 4, rule 4, rule 4)

Don't get me wrong, I am very grateful and appreciative of your efforts to help me and IML. And I definitely want it to be win-win for everyone, whatever we do end up choosing.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Jake2015 - 12-14-2018

@Shannon

Bro since we're discussing volume on my thread I wondered if there's any tech that can be created to allow the subs to works irrespective of volume as long as volume chosen is above zero?

Thanks in advance.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 12-14-2018

(12-14-2018, 09:31 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon

Bro since we're discussing volume on my thread I wondered if there's any tech that can be created to allow the subs to works irrespective of volume as long as volume chosen is above zero?

Thanks in advance.

That's been in the skeleton script for literally years now. It apparently does not work, at least so far. I have no idea why.