(12-05-2018, 04:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 03:31 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: So shannon is the fear that keeps holding us back coming from the place of be afraid of having the girl initiate or approach us? I think i'm like most guys this is what we all want and dream of. Why do you think all the fear is stopping us from something we want?

Point #1. The conscious mind and the conscious mind do not think using the same set of memories, type of logic or range of awareness.

Point #2. The subconscious apparently embodies every past version of "you" all at once.

Point #3. Fear is an emotion, and therefore irrational. That means it does not usually make rational sense.

The fear that holds you guys back from executing can be fear of having her approach and initiate, but it is much more likely a fear of what will happen if she does. You make some mistake and get embarrassed, she changes her mind and makes you feel foolish, you don't know how to respond, you don't have the privacy to take advantage, she has an STD and you're too dumb to wear a condom, she might laugh at your pecker, she might laugh at your body, she might laugh at your technique, or how long you last, she might get pregnant, she might cry rape, she might tell her friends you're a shitty lover, she might have a boyfriend she's cheating on who might come after you, you might fall in love and she breaks your heart, and on and on and on ad infinitum.

Just remember, the moon might fall out of the sky and land on your head, too. And it might also be made of Swiss cheese.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the conscious self wants if the subconscious self disagrees and has the upper hand, which it usually does given it's strengths and the weaknesses of the "conscious" self.

(12-05-2018, 07:42 PM)FluffyBunny Wrote: whats tid?

(12-05-2018, 06:25 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 04:29 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 03:31 PM)Shadow2200 Wrote: So shannon is the fear that keeps holding us back coming from the place of be afraid of having the girl initiate or approach us? I think i'm like most guys this is what we all want and dream of. Why do you think all the fear is stopping us from something we want?

Point #1. The conscious mind and the conscious mind do not think using the same set of memories, type of logic or range of awareness.

Point #2. The subconscious apparently embodies every past version of "you" all at once.

Point #3. Fear is an emotion, and therefore irrational. That means it does not usually make rational sense.

The fear that holds you guys back from executing can be fear of having her approach and initiate, but it is much more likely a fear of what will happen if she does. You make some mistake and get embarrassed, she changes her mind and makes you feel foolish, you don't know how to respond, you don't have the privacy to take advantage, she has an STD and you're too dumb to wear a condom, she might laugh at your pecker, she might laugh at your body, she might laugh at your technique, or how long you last, she might get pregnant, she might cry rape, she might tell her friends you're a shitty lover, she might have a boyfriend she's cheating on who might come after you, you might fall in love and she breaks your heart, and on and on and on ad infinitum.

Just remember, the moon might fall out of the sky and land on your head, too. And it might also be made of Swiss cheese.

Ultimately, it doesn't matter what the conscious self wants if the subconscious self disagrees and has the upper hand, which it usually does given it's strengths and the weaknesses of the "conscious" self.

Since the anti-fear mod is targeted at subconscious fear. will we notice a lack of fear consciously ie absolute self confidence?

(12-05-2018, 05:34 PM)MrBoogieMan_HD Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 05:01 PM)Hatman Wrote: Shannon, for the people who are currently running USLM, would you recommend finishing the full 3 months on FRM v3.2 before switching to the upcoming LTU before all of the fears have been dealt with? Or is it okay to switch to LTU because it also includes the script of USLM and therefore targets the same fears?

Thanks!

Take this with a grain of salt once someone who knows what they are talking about comments, but I believe it is best to stay on whatever you are using to continue to target the fears.

(12-05-2018, 04:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 02:38 PM)Hanpan Wrote: Well, since it is a beta test, it would make a lot of sense in my mind. If the goal is to make you so attractive to THEM that they will approach you, but the sub isn't 100 % there yet, you could still get with higher quality girls than you usually would by approaching them, since the sub might increase your "attractiveness" or whatever you want to call it in their eyes, but not enough to make them make the move on you every time.

If the goal is for them to approach you, you don't disincentivize that by doing it for them.

That has been the goal of this program since v1.0.

And that is why when it did influence you to make an effort, it was to meet them half way, not do it for them.

(12-06-2018, 12:42 AM)Hanpan Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 04:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(12-05-2018, 02:38 PM)Hanpan Wrote: Well, since it is a beta test, it would make a lot of sense in my mind. If the goal is to make you so attractive to THEM that they will approach you, but the sub isn't 100 % there yet, you could still get with higher quality girls than you usually would by approaching them, since the sub might increase your "attractiveness" or whatever you want to call it in their eyes, but not enough to make them make the move on you every time.

If the goal is for them to approach you, you don't disincentivize that by doing it for them.

That has been the goal of this program since v1.0.

And that is why when it did influence you to make an effort, it was to meet them half way, not do it for them.

Thank you for your answer. This makes sense to me.

I thought that the program had 2 overall goals:

1) To make you more attractive in the eyes of the girl/girls you like
2) Make the girls you like do the approach.

So if I don't really care about 2) and I actually prefer to do the approach myself, should I stay away from this program, or will 1) still work for me?

(12-06-2018, 01:04 AM)Greenduck Wrote: Hi Shannon,

How do “develop a zen attitude” work on you? Is it a new mindset? Emotional resiliency? I posted about adding it to the coming E3 program, would that be possible/suitable you think?

(12-06-2018, 03:55 AM)Oversoul Wrote: @Shannon I know it consumes your time and you can't keep giving out updates forever while neglecting other subs but do you think upgrading USLM with FRM 4 will ever happen, as it theoretically would personally make you more productive with subs?

I mean some time would be lost on the short term for sure, but on the medium term, would it make you attract more luck and success and thus make subs better/faster?

Thanks