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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Benjamin - 10-26-2018

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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Kol - 10-26-2018

(10-26-2018, 01:52 PM)Paul1131 Wrote:
(10-26-2018, 08:59 AM)Kol Wrote: @Shannon, this might be good feedback;

The last 1,5 weeks im reliving memories, clear as day, and they instantly flip into positivity. Memories of my childhood, memories and flashbacks of when I was 'out of it' I actually like them and am thrilled. Could this be FRM?

Also, I know you have mentioned your inner child. My focus has shifted in attention and this looks like it might be key. It happened yesterday evening while I drove my car, and I felt, by acknowledging and seeing it actually inside, something huge was set in motion. This included radical self perception shifts of my body. When I acknowledged this, some caretakers seemed to approach my inner child and nurtured it in an sense, aswell as feeling inclined in working with my inner child.
I’m getting the reliving memories with the opportunity to react differently too. It’s pretty awesome. Do you kinda sorta remember the incidents the new way afterwards too?

Yes. They turn into fond memories. Its along the lines of "damn that was amazing" I can also remember the events clearly now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - TugaInVegas - 10-27-2018

(10-26-2018, 09:52 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Starting today we are having a 35% off sale off 4g programs.. plus an opportunity to get one of our popular 5g programs also at 35% off.

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Life Tune Up 5g.

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Awesome... What are your 4g recommendations? I've been looking to test one of them, and seems like this is the time Smile


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Jake2015 - 10-27-2018

@Shannon
Hey buddy I had a thought which I wanted to share to help with your research.

I understand resistance to be pretty much fear and thus on a scale if I could illustrate it I would put this at the negative end and where 0 is neutral, where we want to end up, where we are whole.

Isn't there therefore a positive end of the scale that also produces resistance, due to the opposite which is ego, over confidence, arrogance and so forth?

I wonder if my resistance is purely fear based and not based on the complete opposite causing me to subconsciously shun all your subs so far.

thanks


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Username - 10-27-2018

(10-26-2018, 04:08 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:
(10-26-2018, 03:39 AM)Username Wrote: I learned a lesson about energy usage of dmsi. I was off for something like 70 days. Last Sunday I decided to make a quick run of 3.1 for a week or so. Cause I read It will take approximately a month till the next version. And bang, I was semi-sick on Monday morning. It's the flue season and everyone around has been, or are sick around me...but my immune system was successful dealing with it until I redirected my energys. Used it for 3 nights, then decided to cut it and now I pretty much fine again.
Sounds like placebo.

I'm rarely sick. Usually it comes when I go through lots of mental/physical stress. This time I didn't have neither. I'm also aware of how giving myself negative suggestions can easily help to cause illness... Lots of people do this all the time...I try to avoid it as much as possible with quite good success... There have been times where I haven't had a cold for couple of years straight. So I doubt this was a placebo or nocebo... But obviously there are no guarantees.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - SargeMaximus - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 09:16 AM)Username Wrote:
(10-26-2018, 04:08 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:
(10-26-2018, 03:39 AM)Username Wrote: I learned a lesson about energy usage of dmsi. I was off for something like 70 days. Last Sunday I decided to make a quick run of 3.1 for a week or so. Cause I read It will take approximately a month till the next version. And bang, I was semi-sick on Monday morning. It's the flue season and everyone around has been, or are sick around me...but my immune system was successful dealing with it until I redirected my energys. Used it for 3 nights, then decided to cut it and now I pretty much fine again.
Sounds like placebo.

I'm rarely sick. Usually it comes when I go through lots of mental/physical stress. This time I didn't have neither. I'm also aware of how giving myself negative suggestions can easily help to cause illness... Lots of people do this all the time...I try to avoid it as much as possible with quite good success... There have been times where I haven't had a cold for couple of years straight. So I doubt this was a placebo or nocebo... But obviously there are no guarantees.

Could just be coincidence too. I rarely get sick as well so whenever I do it seems like a big deal.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-27-2018

(10-26-2018, 08:59 AM)Kol Wrote: @Shannon, this might be good feedback;

The last 1,5 weeks im reliving memories, clear as day, and they instantly flip into positivity. Memories of my childhood, memories and flashbacks of when I was 'out of it' I actually like them and am thrilled. Could this be FRM?

It could be.

Quote:Also, I know you have mentioned your inner child. My focus has shifted in attention and this looks like it might be key. It happened yesterday evening while I drove my car, and I felt, by acknowledging and seeing it actually inside, something huge was set in motion. This included radical self perception shifts of my body. When I acknowledged this, some caretakers seemed to approach my inner child and nurtured it in an sense, aswell as feeling inclined in working with my inner child.

Very interesting.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 06:55 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon
Hey buddy I had a thought which I wanted to share to help with your research.

I understand resistance to be pretty much fear and thus on a scale if I could illustrate it I would put this at the negative end and where 0 is neutral, where we want to end up, where we are whole.

Isn't there therefore a positive end of the scale that also produces resistance, due to the opposite which is ego, over confidence, arrogance and so forth?

I wonder if my resistance is purely fear based and not based on the complete opposite causing me to subconsciously shun all your subs so far.

thanks

Ego, overconfidence, arrogance, etc. stem from other things, and if you trace them back to their origin, it is....

Surprise! Fear.

Your issue stems from a combination of a very strong will, a very polar reaction from at least one part of your personality, and that polar part of you experiencing fear.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - ncbeareatingman - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 11:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-27-2018, 06:55 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon
Hey buddy I had a thought which I wanted to share to help with your research.

I understand resistance to be pretty much fear and thus on a scale if I could illustrate it I would put this at the negative end and where 0 is neutral, where we want to end up, where we are whole.

Isn't there therefore a positive end of the scale that also produces resistance, due to the opposite which is ego, over confidence, arrogance and so forth?

I wonder if my resistance is purely fear based and not based on the complete opposite causing me to subconsciously shun all your subs so far.

thanks

Ego, overconfidence, arrogance, etc. stem from other things, and if you trace them back to their origin, it is....

Surprise! Fear.

Your issue stems from a combination of a very strong will, a very polar reaction from at least one part of your personality, and that polar part of you experiencing fear.

Ding,Ding,Ding!!! Bonus round!! Nailed it !! I swear.
there really are two when it comes down to it,when ya boil it down!
Love or Fear...
ALcohol supresses fear = either they git Lovely Dovey or all the unresovled shit comes up and boom...blah blah blah...fear.
Cigarettes/Cancer sticks = suppress
Anger = Under Anger = Fear! based energy DIng!!!
Guilt- form of Fear! Ding!
SO this FRM is turning fear off,dissolving it,removing it...damn this Mofo is bad ass, dayuummm for real!! WTF(who the ****) is laying something like this out and nailing like this...as in FRM v2. very very few on the planet!
this good shit is well worth the price of admission!! dang understatement.
(the FRM alone,that is!!))
The changes Im making,the shifts I AM having on the levels of success,good fortune and related, it is amazing me and all of it isn't nor does it have to be Persona's Dramatic'...the subtle to me is just as profound as the overt & obvious. diggin' the heck outta this puppy! USLM2 Rocks baby it Rocks!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - samba99 - 10-27-2018

Shannon, how is the work with DMSI is going?

Few things to note,
You are bringing the auric shield back, yes? {block negativety} I stopped using Uslm and took a week break now I'm back with DMSI B 3.2 with 1:1 as Second ASRB.

I noticed people who I'm not sexually attracted to, try to send negativety on my way (ex: family members and friends)
Now I assume this response is because of increase of value that suddenly being added to me "dmsi"

Another thing, are you going to add wealth module(if will make a person more attractive) to DMSI?

After FRM and aura adjustment. What are you going to work on?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - DarthXedonias - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 12:02 PM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon, how is the work with DMSI is going?

Few things to note,
You are bringing the auric shield back, yes? {block negativety} I stopped using Uslm and took a week break now I'm back with DMSI B 3.2 with 1:1 as Second ASRB.

I noticed people who I'm not sexually attracted to, try to send negativety on my way (ex: family members and friends)
Now I assume this response is because of increase of value that suddenly being added to me "dmsi"

Another thing, are you going to add wealth module(if will make a person more attractive) to DMSI?

After FRM and aura adjustment. What are you going to work on?

I would like to know this as well since I remember there was some talk about this aspect months ago. Makes sense since wealth is a factor some people take into consideration when choosing someone to go out with, etc (not saying its the end all be all though).

Also, in relation to this for 3.3 will you be adding those over 130+ factors you said women take in consideration when choosing a guy to have sex with? Lastly, will FRM version 3 be significantly more powerful that version 2? I ask because after running US/LMv2 these last 2 weeks or so I keep getting this "feeling" that something is missing. Its hard to explain really.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Jake2015 - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 11:40 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-27-2018, 06:55 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon
Hey buddy I had a thought which I wanted to share to help with your research.

I understand resistance to be pretty much fear and thus on a scale if I could illustrate it I would put this at the negative end and where 0 is neutral, where we want to end up, where we are whole.

Isn't there therefore a positive end of the scale that also produces resistance, due to the opposite which is ego, over confidence, arrogance and so forth?

I wonder if my resistance is purely fear based and not based on the complete opposite causing me to subconsciously shun all your subs so far.

thanks

Ego, overconfidence, arrogance, etc. stem from other things, and if you trace them back to their origin, it is....

Surprise! Fear.

Your issue stems from a combination of a very strong will, a very polar reaction from at least one part of your personality, and that polar part of you experiencing fear.


Thank you very much for replying buddy @Shannon - I know you've been super busy lately so appreciate it.

I hope that FRM can therefore help me with this.

When you have time could you reply to my post. It was my reply to you as you will see: https://subliminal-talk.com/Thread-Men-s-Journals-Shannon-s-Journal-Discussion-Volume-3-?pid=208459#pid208459

No hurry and thanks again appreciate it!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-27-2018

(10-21-2018, 03:30 AM)Jake2015 Wrote:
(10-20-2018, 08:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-20-2018, 05:35 AM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon Hey Buddy

Ive been on UMOP for 34days so far of which 15 have been 5loops. - no change as yet.

Did the models give any indication when I could see some change if any or is it simply a case of a change would be since anytime upto day 90?

Based on this do you feel the FRM would help me at all?

thanks in advance

They did not indicate when - only that 5 loops should be your second best results. I did not model anything else. I am of the opinion that you have done what I expected you to do, which is, you simply responded to what was forecast for you by adjusting to negate it. I had the feeling that you would do that, and that you would therefore "get no results".

I have run the models again on your situation, and they now show total failure for you at 5 loops per day. That would be what was expected if you were to adjust to the static 5 loops per day to intentionally prevent it from working.

I believe the FRM would help you immensely, as long as it was sufficiently advanced. I don't know if V2 would help you. But it is worth a shot, as is v3, which will be in DMSI 3.3. If you would like to try USLM2 for a while and see if FRMv2 helps, that could be helpful. But the choice of what to do is up to you, but I definitely want to see what DMSI 3.3 does for you when it comes out.
Thanks for taking the time to reply as always @Shannon

1) Can I get my money back therefore for UMOP as it hasnt worked after following instructions? if not then must I use it for 90days for this since we both now know it will only fail for me?

We both know it will fail for you? You didn't read what I wrote. I wrote that you changed the forecast. You can also change it to success. So based on that, and the fact that our refund policy is what it is, and the fact that FRM will probably be making its way into the UMOP script in the not too distant future, I suggest you continue along for the time being. There is still hope.

After three months if you still haven't gotten results, I'll be glad to refund you, but you have to at least follow the time specifications on the instructions for the refund policy to qualify since we changed the loops for you.

Quote:2) I understand. I havent intentionally done anything except tried both 3 loops and then 5 loops and just sad its not worked even now. I have shared whatever data I thought I could and should as always and will remain to do this openly going forward too so please do watch for my next journal.

Do you suppose your resistance is unintentional? Accidental? I think not. You may not consciously be resisting, but you are resisting with intent subconsciously, and the proof is in your track record. I will point out to you that you have resisted 100% of my subs to the point of no results so far, if I understand correctly. Now that would mean that one of the following is true:

A) My subs simply don't work, 100% of the time. We can safely rule that out, given the fact that we could not stay in business if that were the case.
B) You are intentionally adjusting your response to each sub to prevent it from working 100% of the time.

My mother used to do this thing where she would resist any forecast made for her, no matter who made it or what it said, because subconsciously, she took it as "being told what to do". This included the prediction my maternal grandfather made that she would have no children (the doctors told her that having me would put her life at risk, but she did it anyway), and every single forecast I ever made for her - with the exception of those she didn't know about.

If she knew about them, they failed to come to pass 100% of the time. If not, they succeeded about 90% of the time.

One of my friends (who does not believe that any prediction is possible outside of mathematics) does the exact same thing. If he knows about it, 100% failure rate. If not, ~90% success rate.

Now think about this... chance would be 50%. So we can safely and definitely conclude that statistically speaking, neither case is chance. It is A) the intentional actions and choices of the person to defeat and change the forecast future to something else, or it is a successful forecast in most cases.

Your track record tells me without a doubt that at some level, you are intentionally resisting and preventing the outcome.


Quote:3) Since you want me to try FRM, isnt it possible my subconscious will do the same as it has with 5loops and negate that because you have said try FRM? or am I misunderstanding things here?

Anything is possible. I suggest you remain on UMOP, though. I have to observe the refund policy on the time at least, since I instructed you to change the number of loops.

Quote:4) I feel based on many factors which ill share, that its best I wait for DMSI 3.3 rather than jump onto USLM2 in haste:

a) I know of 1 member that has had reversal resistance on USLM2, and presume as i am a difficult resistant type that thus it may not work for me. (I read posts and came across 1 member but dont read everything so apologise if there are more with resistance on USLM2)

b) I would much rather go for the stronger tech than try and hope that FRM.v2 works. I have in the past chosen subs for a purpose but then jumped onto DMSI for the sole reason of trying to get to the tech that will assist me to execute and only jumped onto UMOP as this was and had always been the 1 sub that I knew I needed most of all. Alas now im back at square 1 so thus will only remain on DMSI until we get me executing.

c) 3.3 will start build around 20th November you said, so makes better sense to wait for that.

d) For me USLM2's effects would be a tricky one to notice, I feel. I feel overall that im a fortunate and lucky guy. At times things just happen for me and I notice these things and then show gratitude each and everytime that it happened. Therefore unless I win the lottery which I dont play or suddenly come into wealth of some large extreme measure I wouldnt be able to notice execution of this sub I feel thus much better to try 3.3 as its results will be beyond obvious in terms of not fapping, not wasting time with porn, getting fitter physically, eating right, looking after myself and overall and most of all getting female attention and females trying to get me.

e) Both YOU and I are eager to see how 3.3 with the v3 of FRM works on me.

Once DMSI 3.3 comes out, I plan to add FRM v3 to UMOP and USLM. So you can then use UMOP with FRMv3 and see what happens, and still be eligible for a refund if it still fails.

Quote:5) Shall I therefore take 35days break now in anticipation of DMSI 3.3?

Not advised if you want a refund. Otherwise, have at it.

Quote:6) When DMSI 3.3 is made and released, would it be better I start the same as every one else or would you prefer to perform a modelling forecast for me with it, so we can hit the ground running at the best number of loops?

I will not be modeling for you again, since I see now that you're likely to go out of your way to prevent it from coming to pass. That is a big part of why I don't use the models for individuals very often.

When 3.3 is made and released, though, if you decide to forego a refund on UMOP and decide to run DMSI 3.3, you should follow the instructions, whatever they are.

Quote:I am glad that I didnt in haste spend more money on devices to try the 11loop since now we know (though im not fully sure how) that my subconscious will negate any effects you inform me of. I dont recall you telling me anything about 5loops or 11loops except that the models said that they would work really well and to me this is no different to each and every time I have bought a sub, with the proviso that the sub will work 100% as the sales page suggests it would. Therefore I hope that whatever the issues are for me not executing can be resolved with your help.

I think 11 loops might have actually worked regardless of your resistance. But we will never know.

Quote:My goal is same as yours, to get past whatever obstacles are preventing me from fully executing so that you can make the best subs on the planet and I can of course execute and benefit. If you recall the 1 time I am 100% sure that I executed was on 1 loops with headphones on 3.2. I still believe 1 loop with headphones perhaps is the best way for me to execute but im throwing this in there incase its data you can consider for me.

Your conscious goal may be the same as mine, but it is clearly not your subconscious goal.

Quote:That being said, thank you for allowing me to be part of this journey with IML and even though im sad about UMOP, after 3 years im still optimistic that I can be helped.

We will continue doing what we can. But once 6G comes out, there is nothing left to try: it either works for you or it doesn't, and that's that.


Quote:Thanks in advance buddy!

addendum:
I just realised that I havent noticed any TID from 3.3 so does this mean I already wont execute that too? Sad

It means either:

A) You won't be running DMSI 3.3 like you thought you would, or
B) You are still far enough away from start to resist the TID effects.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-27-2018

(10-27-2018, 12:02 PM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon, how is the work with DMSI is going?

Few things to note,
You are bringing the auric shield back, yes? {block negativety} I stopped using Uslm and took a week break now I'm back with DMSI B 3.2 with 1:1 as Second ASRB.

Auric shield was only removed in 3.2 to show you guys that it works. Yes, it is coming back.

Quote:I noticed people who I'm not sexually attracted to, try to send negativety on my way (ex: family members and friends)
Now I assume this response is because of increase of value that suddenly being added to me "dmsi"

Higher value = threat to status quo and to the success of those who don't suddenly have that status boost.

Quote:Another thing, are you going to add wealth module(if will make a person more attractive) to DMSI?

I'm not going to add something like that, at least now, because what I have found in my experiments is that unless you actually have the wealth and signs of wealth to back up the "claim", they quickly dismiss and ignore it regardless.

Quote:After FRM and aura adjustment. What are you going to work on?

I have a long list of stuff to add. Everything from trying to find a way to prevent aura stealing, to trying to find a way to shut down "scorched earth" tactics to trying to find a way to get you guys to prefer actual sex to masturbation (WTf, guys, really!) and a lot more.