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RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 06:38 AM)josh84 Wrote: Hi Shannon, just wondering about mhs, when you release it in 6g do you think it would be strong enough to repair damaged hearing to the point people may not need hearing aids.

I can't know that yet.

Quote:Ive been off dmsi for 2 months now, and i understand many things have come up in that time, if i was to use some hypnosis products while waiting for 3.3 to be released how much of a break do i need before moving onto 3.3 once its released, and do we have more than 35 days still away while frm is being tested to improve on before 3.3?

Thanks.

The instructions are posted in the FAQ for that.

I don't know how long we have until I release 3.3. I only know that I am focused on FRM3 right now, and I have a lot I want to add after that.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - samba99 - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - 4Kingdoms - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote: You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.
(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote: I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

When USLMAX was released, it came with the instructions to do 6 loops. (no more/no less)

Because of your prior experience with higher loops, you had the limiting belief that USLMAX with its instruction of 6 loops would give you the results you experienced in the past with other subs on higher loops.

This may be on an unconscious level.
(the part of the mind that is inaccessible to the conscious mind but that affects behavior and emotions.)
I seriously doubt that you thought it consciously before starting USLMAX!!


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

Let's say your subconscious is non-cooperative. If you feed it low numbers of loops, it is somewhat cooperative, because this gives you incentive to stay with low numbers of loops.

If you give it high numbers of loops (when instructed) it reacts with reverse resistance and depression. According to your own words.

Reverse resistance is always an extreme fear reaction from the subconscious mind. Depression arises when the subconscious cannot resist and is feeling hopeless because the change it fears is imminent if something does not prevent that.

You therefore have failed to see what was actually going on.

In the past the usage and/or the sub was unable to get past that. Now we are testing the Fear Removal Module. If this works, it will erase that fear.

But the instructions say to use it 6 loops a day. You have had what you take to be a reverse resistance response, and want to stop using it as instructed.

If you stop using it as instructed, will it erase the fear, or will your subconscious be able to resist as usual?

Why do you suppose the models told me 6 loops 14 times in a row?

So what it looks like to me is that your subconscious has effectively whipped you into not doing the things that will actually result in achieving all of the results by using reverse resistance and depression.

Now that we have the FRMv2 to test, caving in to the demands of your subconscious to do whatever it takes not to achieve the goals of the program fully are not going to achieve the goals of the FRM. It is self defeating.

As I said, you are free to do as you please. The refund policy stands. But if you don't try to ride it out, will we get the data we need for your case, so I can make it easier for you to succeed in the future? And will the FRM work at all?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - samba99 - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 09:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

Let's say your subconscious is non-cooperative. If you feed it low numbers of loops, it is somewhat cooperative, because this gives you incentive to stay with low numbers of loops.

If you give it high numbers of loops (when instructed) it reacts with reverse resistance and depression. According to your own words.

Reverse resistance is always an extreme fear reaction from the subconscious mind. Depression arises when the subconscious cannot resist and is feeling hopeless because the change it fears is imminent if something does not prevent that.

You therefore have failed to see what was actually going on.

In the past the usage and/or the sub was unable to get past that. Now we are testing the Fear Removal Module. If this works, it will erase that fear.

But the instructions say to use it 6 loops a day. You have had what you take to be a reverse resistance response, and want to stop using it as instructed.

If you stop using it as instructed, will it erase the fear, or will your subconscious be able to resist as usual?

Why do you suppose the models told me 6 loops 14 times in a row?

So what it looks like to me is that your subconscious has effectively whipped you into not doing the things that will actually result in achieving all of the results by using reverse resistance and depression.

Now that we have the FRMv2 to test, caving in to the demands of your subconscious to do whatever it takes not to achieve the goals of the program fully are not going to achieve the goals of the FRM. It is self defeating.

As I said, you are free to do as you please. The refund policy stands. But if you don't try to ride it out, will we get the data we need for your case, so I can make it easier for you to succeed in the future? And will the FRM work at all?

First I don't intend to request for a refund for your subs, I never thought about it in fact.

As I said, with lower loops I achieve the goals of the program. Even with DMSI I achieved the goals.

Therefore by me doing lower loops, it does not me I am escaping the program, but, I am executing.

I can't see why the FRM won't work with lower loop. Anyways, I will be doing 1 loop just as I did with Uslm, it did wonders for me.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - rayrocanaldo - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 09:40 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 09:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

Let's say your subconscious is non-cooperative. If you feed it low numbers of loops, it is somewhat cooperative, because this gives you incentive to stay with low numbers of loops.

If you give it high numbers of loops (when instructed) it reacts with reverse resistance and depression. According to your own words.

Reverse resistance is always an extreme fear reaction from the subconscious mind. Depression arises when the subconscious cannot resist and is feeling hopeless because the change it fears is imminent if something does not prevent that.

You therefore have failed to see what was actually going on.

In the past the usage and/or the sub was unable to get past that. Now we are testing the Fear Removal Module. If this works, it will erase that fear.

But the instructions say to use it 6 loops a day. You have had what you take to be a reverse resistance response, and want to stop using it as instructed.

If you stop using it as instructed, will it erase the fear, or will your subconscious be able to resist as usual?

Why do you suppose the models told me 6 loops 14 times in a row?

So what it looks like to me is that your subconscious has effectively whipped you into not doing the things that will actually result in achieving all of the results by using reverse resistance and depression.

Now that we have the FRMv2 to test, caving in to the demands of your subconscious to do whatever it takes not to achieve the goals of the program fully are not going to achieve the goals of the FRM. It is self defeating.

As I said, you are free to do as you please. The refund policy stands. But if you don't try to ride it out, will we get the data we need for your case, so I can make it easier for you to succeed in the future? And will the FRM work at all?

First I don't intend to request for a refund for your subs, I never thought about it in fact.

As I said, with lower loops I achieve the goals of the program. Even with DMSI I achieved the goals.

Therefore by me doing lower loops, it does not me I am escaping the program, but, I am executing.

I can't see why the FRM won't work with lower loop. Anyways, I will be doing 1 loop just as I did with Uslm, it did wonders for me.

What results did you get on dmsi to be able to say you have achieved the goals of ghr program?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - samba99 - 10-17-2018

[/quote]

What results did you get on dmsi to be able to say you have achieved the goals of ghr program?
[/quote]

I achieved the design goal.

Women approached me for sex. And I had sex with them


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - terry44 - 10-17-2018

I've been using USLM for just over two months (two days of USLM2 so far). In that time I've had a string of bad luck with ordering things from Amazon and Ebay. Four separate items have been lost entirely and one more item was cancelled by the seller just before posting because it was defective and the last in stock. This is very unusual for me: sometimes I might have one or two items go missing in the whole year. I wonder if bad luck/synchronicity can be caused by resistance? It could be an unfortunate coincidence I suppose.

I've had amazing success with Stress Relief, E1, E2, LTU, AM6, ARA etc, but this sub isn't going so well. I'll keep going for another month to see if fear of success is causing major resistance.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 09:40 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 09:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

Let's say your subconscious is non-cooperative. If you feed it low numbers of loops, it is somewhat cooperative, because this gives you incentive to stay with low numbers of loops.

If you give it high numbers of loops (when instructed) it reacts with reverse resistance and depression. According to your own words.

Reverse resistance is always an extreme fear reaction from the subconscious mind. Depression arises when the subconscious cannot resist and is feeling hopeless because the change it fears is imminent if something does not prevent that.

You therefore have failed to see what was actually going on.

In the past the usage and/or the sub was unable to get past that. Now we are testing the Fear Removal Module. If this works, it will erase that fear.

But the instructions say to use it 6 loops a day. You have had what you take to be a reverse resistance response, and want to stop using it as instructed.

If you stop using it as instructed, will it erase the fear, or will your subconscious be able to resist as usual?

Why do you suppose the models told me 6 loops 14 times in a row?

So what it looks like to me is that your subconscious has effectively whipped you into not doing the things that will actually result in achieving all of the results by using reverse resistance and depression.

Now that we have the FRMv2 to test, caving in to the demands of your subconscious to do whatever it takes not to achieve the goals of the program fully are not going to achieve the goals of the FRM. It is self defeating.

As I said, you are free to do as you please. The refund policy stands. But if you don't try to ride it out, will we get the data we need for your case, so I can make it easier for you to succeed in the future? And will the FRM work at all?

First I don't intend to request for a refund for your subs, I never thought about it in fact.

As I said, with lower loops I achieve the goals of the program. Even with DMSI I achieved the goals.

Therefore by me doing lower loops, it does not me I am escaping the program, but, I am executing.

I can't see why the FRM won't work with lower loop. Anyways, I will be doing 1 loop just as I did with Uslm, it did wonders for me.

I want to add that for me the same was the case with pretty much all the subs I have used. More is sometimes less in the same way for some people more loops is better. There are always outliers.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shawn - 10-17-2018

(10-16-2018, 11:39 AM)Shannon Wrote: I'm not sure of that is sarcasm indicating annoyance or not. If it is, I'm not trying to offend you.

Here, though, conscious resistance is again based on the conflict with the accepted world view and the limits it creates on what the person believes is and is not possible.

History is littered with examples of when people did not allow that to stop them, how they achieved "the impossible". Like heavier than air flight.

It still does not challenge my theory that it would be, at it's core, fear that causes the resistance.

And I am not sure why you think it is sarcasm or something as for me it was a normal sentence without any bad intentions behind. I just stated what I thought.

Yes, they are people who did the (almost) impossible, but others are not that open minded and would probably therefore resist more. And I am not talking about me, I am talking in general about different types of people.


Quote:Alright, so what I'm trying to do is point out that examples where it is not fear, but rational thinking making the same choice, are extremely rare. We are capable of making the rational choice (in many cases) but that doesn't change the fact that we do not, at the subconscious level, because the subconscious mind is not rational.

And because of the limits of the conscious mind, the subconscious makes at least 97% of our decisions, from what I have seen. Fear is an emotion, and it is apparently a very addictive emotion. Most people do not make choices rationally. They just think they do.

Ultimately, I'm looking for evidence that my theory is incorrect. So far I haven't found it. I therefore am working to remove and turn that underlying fear off, and if my theory is correct and I can figure out how to turn it off, we should find ourselves suddenly free to accomplish many things we could not before.

I know not every decision is equal to a fear based behavior, but I wanted to point out that they exist. And like someone else mentioned I believe we have two kinds of motivation. The negative one boils down to fear and the positive one to joy, love or other positive emotions. That's another reason I see why people can make choices which can look like fear based while it is driven by positive motivation. But in normal case where people have fear probably both factors play a role. However, I hope it is somehow understandable, because I am really tired now.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 10:09 AM)terry44 Wrote: I've been using USLM for just over two months (two days of USLM2 so far). In that time I've had a string of bad luck with ordering things from Amazon and Ebay. Four separate items have been lost entirely and one more item was cancelled by the seller just before posting because it was defective and the last in stock. This is very unusual for me: sometimes I might have one or two items go missing in the whole year. I wonder if bad luck/synchronicity can be caused by resistance? It could be an unfortunate coincidence I suppose.

I've had amazing success with Stress Relief, E1, E2, LTU, AM6, ARA etc, but this sub isn't going so well. I'll keep going for another month to see if fear of success is causing major resistance.

Having the reverse of the goal happen is reversal resistance. It means for some reason your subconscious is terrified of achieving the goal and is trying to prevent it by reversing the goal achieved.

It will be interesting to see how this goes with USLM2.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Shannon - 10-17-2018

(10-17-2018, 09:40 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 09:10 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:37 AM)samba99 Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 08:21 AM)Shannon Wrote:
(10-17-2018, 06:16 AM)samba99 Wrote: Shannon,

I have always benefited from your subs with lower usage. And the pattern is clear to me. And there is no difference with USLMAX.

No matter what sub, DMSI, MLS, USLM1

Always lower loops make me execute really well. While on higher loops reverse resistance and depression.

With USLMAX, today within a period of 4 hours...

I accedintly broke a good jar of chili sauce
Then I dropped a bottle of water
Then I almost got myself into car accident, I turned into an exit on a low speed about (37MPH) out of no where the car started spinning left and right and made a 270 degree spin all the way to outside the road. Likely I didn't hit anything and the car stopped (this is both extreme bad luck and good luck)

Then when I got home I almost slipped while walking.

Again I always benefited from low loops man. Can I go back to one loop a day with USLMAX? If not I am afraid I'll have only two options:
Either stop Uslm or go back to v1 (one loop)

Another interesting thing to note is I had a precognitive dream today.

You can do whatever you like, but the refund policy stands. I think you're creating self limiting beliefs that pander to your subconscious fears as a defense mechanism, but hey. Your choice.

I don't understand how is that limiting belief when all I did is observe with trial and error.

Let's say your subconscious is non-cooperative. If you feed it low numbers of loops, it is somewhat cooperative, because this gives you incentive to stay with low numbers of loops.

If you give it high numbers of loops (when instructed) it reacts with reverse resistance and depression. According to your own words.

Reverse resistance is always an extreme fear reaction from the subconscious mind. Depression arises when the subconscious cannot resist and is feeling hopeless because the change it fears is imminent if something does not prevent that.

You therefore have failed to see what was actually going on.

In the past the usage and/or the sub was unable to get past that. Now we are testing the Fear Removal Module. If this works, it will erase that fear.

But the instructions say to use it 6 loops a day. You have had what you take to be a reverse resistance response, and want to stop using it as instructed.

If you stop using it as instructed, will it erase the fear, or will your subconscious be able to resist as usual?

Why do you suppose the models told me 6 loops 14 times in a row?

So what it looks like to me is that your subconscious has effectively whipped you into not doing the things that will actually result in achieving all of the results by using reverse resistance and depression.

Now that we have the FRMv2 to test, caving in to the demands of your subconscious to do whatever it takes not to achieve the goals of the program fully are not going to achieve the goals of the FRM. It is self defeating.

As I said, you are free to do as you please. The refund policy stands. But if you don't try to ride it out, will we get the data we need for your case, so I can make it easier for you to succeed in the future? And will the FRM work at all?

First I don't intend to request for a refund for your subs, I never thought about it in fact.

As I said, with lower loops I achieve the goals of the program. Even with DMSI I achieved the goals.

Therefore by me doing lower loops, it does not me I am escaping the program, but, I am executing.

I can't see why the FRM won't work with lower loop. Anyways, I will be doing 1 loop just as I did with Uslm, it did wonders for me.

Alright, sounds like I misunderstood.

I will be eagerly awaiting what happens.


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - Hatman - 10-17-2018

Hi Shannon, have you been running USLM2? If so, is there anything you've noticed thus far?


RE: Shannon's Journal Discussion Volume 3 - KingDavid93 - 10-17-2018

Hi Shannon,

I’ve been on USLMB for the past 5-6 weeks but before that I was on DMSI straight from 3.0 to 3.2 (so over 1.5 yrs) and something has occurred to me with regards to women- something that may or may not help with the advancement of DMSI.

Unless I find the woman absolutely breathtaking I want little to nothing to do with her sexually, but at the same time find it hard to break the ice and attract those sort of women (sort of like being a perfectionist but with regards to the women I interact).

I believe it may be fear of intimacy or of developing a real relationship with a woman (as I haven’t had what I’d call a real gf yet in my life, I’m about to be 25).

I say this bc I feel completely relaxed and at ease when I’m around strippers and hookers (and I’m talking about the even most attractive). So I don’t think that it can be a fear of women or sex but this comes up whenever I get the feeling that there may be a potential for a relationship with the woman.

For example 3.1 manifested a woman into my life who traveled for work- so I only ever saw her 1-2x a month max and this went on for like 6 months until she quit her job- there was no real potential for a relationship with her, we hung out and had sex when she was around and we wouldn’t even really speak much when she wasn’t around. Even her I didn’t really feel at complete ease with until it was clear that this was 100% casual- which didn’t happen until after the 2nd time or so that I saw her

I believe that the inclusion of the FRM may be bringing up these realizations- along with other realizations such as the fact that actually succeeding with regards to any of my business goal would result in my becoming wealthy which would result in my life being considerably different

And for some reason this leads to feelings of discomfort and uneasiness- and I don’t really know why, I don’t really feel like there’s any reason to fear any of these things but they’re coming up so I thought I should mention them.


Looking forward to some feedback