(08-01-2018, 04:32 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Jeez I can't get over how you guys overanalyze so much that there's pages upon pages of comments on just height.

Quote:Or am I missing something? (Serious question Ben don’t ban me)

Maybe if you don't do things like attacking a user who posts a positive report on DMSI or creating stupid arguments it won't happen in the future. The first one was the main reason recently.

(08-01-2018, 03:29 PM)TugaInVegas Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 02:38 PM)Shannon Wrote: 3.3 is coming out in between 30 and 60 days, most likely, so keep that in mind.

So this is the time where the people who are using DMSI 3.2 should stop right?

(08-01-2018, 03:39 PM)DarkPlouf Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 03:06 PM)Fluffy Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 02:38 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 02:25 PM)Fluffy Wrote: If I had a few girlfriends on 3.1, but nothing on 3.2. It makes sense to go back to 3.1, if I want a girlfriend again right?

I think I actually liked and benefitted from the
"training wheels".

You're making a pretty big assumption as to why you don't have girlfriends on 3.2, and it would be my expert opinion that if the lack of "training wheels" is to blame at all, it would be only one reason among two or three.

Going back to 3.1 doesn't make sense to me, but if you think that'll get you more girlfriends, try it and see. 3.3 is coming out in between 30 and 60 days, most likely, so keep that in mind.

Yeah, meet them half way was in 3.1 but not in 3.2 and in 3.1 I was much more motivated in meeting women half way, sometimes quite literally! One weekend I met 1 on Saturday, and two on Sunday, I was super motivated. But not on 3.2, it felt different.

Yeah it's possible it is other reasons, but it makes sense to me based on my experience.

From what I understand, the "meet them halfway" module wasn't supposed at all to motivate you to take action. The meet them halfway was there to limit the affected side from acting without any initiative from you.

(08-01-2018, 07:20 PM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 03:29 PM)TugaInVegas Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 02:38 PM)Shannon Wrote: 3.3 is coming out in between 30 and 60 days, most likely, so keep that in mind.

So this is the time where the people who are using DMSI 3.2 should stop right?

I'll let you know when. It'll be a bit yet.

(08-01-2018, 03:45 PM)Jake2015 Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 11:26 AM)Shannon Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 10:33 AM)thor2014 Wrote:

(08-01-2018, 10:19 AM)AlphaRomeo Wrote: I can´t resist anymore...

I have seen quite many times guys mentioning about how tall/short they are in relation to attraction, where they are 5.7 (this number has popped up on few association, if my memory serves me) and say it´s difficult to attract girls being that "short". Just out of curiosity, in which country/continent do you live? I assume US since you use measure in feet. In many, if not most European countries 5.7 (and half) feet is almost exactly the average height of an adult man, same thing world wide. Quick search on US tells that it is pretty darn close to average as well, and in some parts of it 1 inch shorter. In Asia, that´s tall compared to average...in some places really tall.

I know many women like tall(er) guys, at least taller than themselves. If you are 5.7 you are taller than vast majority of women since on average women are shorter than men. I struggle to understand how the height is such an issue for many guys who are actually average height...or maybe it´s just a limiting belief on your own part? I could understand if you are really short it can be a factor...or TOO tall for that matter! Just wondering...

The majority of women prefer a man that is taller then themselves. Especially in the Balkans where it appears to be an accepted norm.

Place 10 tall women in room and ask a shorter guy to chat them all up. Introduce a tall guy into the room who is taller then any of the women. My bets are that the majority of the women would opt for dating the taller guy. There might be a few women who might opt to date the shorter guy. Lets assume that the tall and short guy are of equal looks and charisma.

The solution is to find a girl who is shorter then you too date.

Place 10 tall women in a room with a shorter guy, and they will respond to him according to their conclusions about him.

The first thing they'll conclude is that he is shorter than them, which will trigger certain automatic reactions (unless he's running [and executing] DMSI). But any man can overcome that by also presenting himself in ways that simultaneously tells her, "It doesn't matter how tall I am, I'm what you're looking for."

Height is one thing women consider, but it isn't at all as important as you guys are trying to make it out to be. It's about attitude, self perception, how you carry yourself, what your attitude, actions, choices and body language are saying.

If you communicate "I know I'm not good enough because I'm too short." then she will believe you.

Likewise, if you communicate, "I may be shorter than you, but who ***** cares? I'm what you're looking for anyway." then she will believe you!

It's like I have said before: people look to you to tell them what to think about you. Whatever you tell them, that's what they'll believe.

Ford is quoted as having said something along the lines of , "The man who believes he can, and the man who believes he can't, are both right."

Exactly.

I am 5'7" tall and it never stopped me from dating women taller than myself. What always stopped me was either the fact that she was already involved, or her personality!

But @Shannon Height does matter to women. Lets take a guy like us who is 5.7 tall.

Most girls our height will only consider a taller man and why because height is sexy because they automatically assume height means strength, even if the guy is skinny. This was due to a recent study:

https://www.spring.org.uk/2018/07/attractive-body-shape-men.php

Now lets take a look at shorter girls, most girls shorter such as 5.6, 5.5 and 5.4 will still prefer taller men yet they would look at those that are 5.8 and 5.9.

Only when you get down to the 5.3 and below will they consider us at 5.7.

Most 10s and I mean 10s are 5.6 or 5.7 and above.

They reach us at height level and these 10s and I dont mean 10 lightly, but 10s who are perfection will date taller men then us always.

I have yet to see a taller 10 that dates a shorter man that isnt rich or powerful or a celeb.

beyond this, today I finished a 3 day course that I had started on monday. I have written about what Im about to share in my thread/journal if you want to read.

At this 3 day course I have met the HOTTEST girl that I have ever ever ever met in real life in my entire life. I cannot think of any female hotter than her.

She was hot in every possible way, her hair, toes, fingers, fashion, make up, style, face, intelligence, anything you want to say she had it and most of all I wouldnt call her a 10, i would call her a 12!

And guess what her bf, is a fairly skinning/slim looking tall fellow and shes 5.7 as us.

I dont know why she went for him but I hope to save her lol

So I have this question, can DMSI or will DMSI work on girls that have bfs/gfs/partner?

And can we get to a stage where DMSI will work on girls we "consciously notice" ? and want to attract that they desire and crave us like crazy?

I tried and tried to repeat affirmative statements asking her to see me, notice me, want me desire me with the power of DMSI (in my mind) and nothing worked.

Sure I made her laugh, I seem to always make people laugh but nothing worked

(08-01-2018, 03:47 PM)Jake2015 Wrote: @Shannon

Ill try and make this quick buddy!

As you may recall, i have had no effects since I increased 3.2 6-7 loops via phone.

My conclusion: either increasing loops fails me or listening now from a phone fails me.

When I was listening to 1 loop via earphones I had almost immediate effects. eg: no fap for 56 days.

Im on day 19 (when I asked this) of 6-7 loops and had to listen to 1 loop yesterday which I did with earphones.

I woke knowing I had dreams - nothing sexual but had girls in there, 1-2 that I have liked in the past 6months & then all day I had an urge to masturbate and then I did and it was wonderful!

shall I go back to 1 loop a day with earphones my friend?

and if you do go on to make UM/OP focusfire do you think I have a chance of executing that or shall i continue on the DMSI road until we reach a point where I am truly executing finally?

also I noticed I have way more grey hair, is this possible from DMSI?

thank you

Quote:also I noticed I have way more grey hair, is this possible from DMSI?

(08-01-2018, 03:56 PM)MasterEnki Wrote: Physically speaking, I’m below average adult male height at 5.7 ~ 5.8 and ectomorphic body type. Which makes me a few inches below average for 30yo male.

I have had an extremely difficult time attracting the interest of women.

I’m just like some of the other guys here. I’m a great, hardworking, down-to-earth guy who has several hobbies, and I’m naturally loyal, determined and honest, etc. (In theory, I should be a highly desirable dating option).


If you are below average height:
a) With a lot of women, you are screwed (the bad kind of screwed, as in hopeless / doomed) no matter what.
b) There are some women who will date below average height guys, as long as they excel in other areas.


Below average height guys are at a significant disadvantage, and have a more limited dating pool / less options. But still have some options, providing they work hard on themselves.


I’m a virgin, who has only had one woman (37yo woman) who wanted to sleep with me. The only reason I haven’t slept with her is because she lives in a group home, and her carer said that she (the carer) will have me charged for rape if I do anything with the woman (37yo woman).

37yo woman is 5.10, which is about 2 inches taller than me. So she probably doesn’t mind that I am shorter.


I’m still hopeful that AYP will, eventually, manifest someone who I can, and she is able to (circumstances wise), have a sexual relationship with.

And other subs with manifestation should eventually work also.

I have seriously considered DMSI, but AYP appeals way more to me. One highly compatiable ‘perfect for me’ partner would be vastly better than dozens of random hot chicks.


Back to the short-guy discussion:

I have bulked up a little since doing a few years of Gym training / conditioning, and most of that seems to be muscle.

Pretty sure that shorter guys look more ripped (compared to taller) with the same amount of muscle. That is one perk of being shorter.


Ultimately, it is all relative,
Above average height and taller guys may have an easier time with dating / attracting women, but shorter guys have a much easier time mastering a solid planche.

(08-01-2018, 05:05 PM)Fluffy Wrote: @Shannon

Based on all the subs you have built and all the scripts you have written up to this point. If I felt I lacked confidence in getting a new job because of lack of experience and because it has been along time since I had a job, what sub would you recommend, seeing as this is a top priority for me and if it was not for my father giving me money, shelter, food and previous jobs years ago, I would be fooked, so I want to stand on my own two feet but I feel I lack confidence in making it happen, because of the obvious perks of not needing to for a few years but I now want to because I no longer want to take money from my father as it eats me up inside for a long time, especially as he is so kind and generous and I am very thankful but I would doing a world of good for myself and my parents if I could earn my own money but getting a job, ASAP.

Any help appreciated, in what you think based on me specifically wanting to get a new job ASAP, but lack the self confidence, is the best sub for me to use.

(08-01-2018, 07:41 PM)Shannon Wrote: I am very impressed with the results I am getting from US/LM right now. If I was going to recommend one sub, I think that would be it.