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All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-02-2015
So I've been reading some stuff about the ego, and fear, etc, and I came across this article that was really interesting, and sort of confirms what I've "felt" is true about what causes humans to have all these insecurities, in that conditioned fear is the root of it all.
http://blog.peterborysjr.com/2008/05/26/letting-go-of-the-fear-based-ego-consciousness/
Makes a lot of sense actually, and just makes me more stoked to start Overcoming Fear.
Shout out to Geodude for the detailed journal and glowing testimonial, which made me look into the concept of fear and how it deeply affects us subconsciously.
Also sort of explains why meditation helps me so much in my insecurities, anxieties, or whatnot, because meditation brings you closer and more in-tune with your higher-self.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - Benjamin - 11-02-2015
Definately, I haven't read the article yet as i'm short on time today but i've seen how fear is at the core of ALOT of my issues. OF seems to be the next thing we're all going to be using, funny that barely anyone used it in the past now several of us will be aroud the same time.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-02-2015
I'm reading this one too:
http://robwhitemedia.com/2012/01/the-ego-is-made-of-fear/
and it was a lightbulb moment when I read... " the fear did me harm; the fear of being humiliated. My coat of armor was to act tough and insist that I think for myself (so nobody’s going to tell me what to do)."
That's the epitome of overcompensation, which I did a TON in the past. I do it a lot less now, but I'm still confused as to who I truly am. Tomorrow is my LAST day of AM6, and I'm gonna just start OF 1.1 right after. Can't be that bad to have no break right? Or is it? Ben/Shannon, or anyone wanna chime in?
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-02-2015
(11-02-2015, 03:47 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Definately, I haven't read the article yet as i'm short on time today but i've seen how fear is at the core of ALOT of my issues. OF seems to be the next thing we're all going to be using, funny that barely anyone used it in the past now several of us will be aroud the same time.
Yeah I know right haha.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - CatMan - 11-02-2015
(11-02-2015, 04:23 PM)dissonance Wrote:(11-02-2015, 03:47 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Definately, I haven't read the article yet as i'm short on time today but i've seen how fear is at the core of ALOT of my issues. OF seems to be the next thing we're all going to be using, funny that barely anyone used it in the past now several of us will be aroud the same time.
Yeah I know right haha.
I think the problem is we all saw how multi-stages like AM6 and SM3 have OGSF in every stage and thought "oh WOW, that will totally deal with this random garbage inside me", only to figure out in many cases, we need direct intervention of fear after the fact to truly rectify it. Then we can move on to whatever multi-stages we wanted beforehand and do very well. I mean I've done 6,980.5 hours of AM6 and SM3, each stage packed with OGSF, and it still wasn't enough! Clearly, OF is needed. The problem is, when going for a magnet for example, you truly don't know just how DEEP your fear rabbithole is. And you only figure out just HOW deep, when the magnet is done and it's time to measure yourself against it's bulletpoints to determine if the run has been successful or not.
It's okay, it'll get handled. Stop Masturbating 4G is my first 4G program, and I'm very impressed with 4G. I think OF 4G is more than capable to get the job done based off what I've seen so far already. OF is looking to be my next sub in about a month or so.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - waahbeta - 11-02-2015
Lol.
Talk about synchronicity..
I've been coming to this fear thing randomly.
First the quit smoking book talks about fear. Then some random articles about fear shared on fb by others .
Ppl using fear in their statements over last few days.
And after weeks I decide to start reading the forum, and the second thread I stumble upon is this, again, about fear.
As my friend says, 'your angels are giving you signs'.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-03-2015
(11-02-2015, 07:50 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-02-2015, 04:23 PM)dissonance Wrote:(11-02-2015, 03:47 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Definately, I haven't read the article yet as i'm short on time today but i've seen how fear is at the core of ALOT of my issues. OF seems to be the next thing we're all going to be using, funny that barely anyone used it in the past now several of us will be aroud the same time.
Yeah I know right haha.
I think the problem is we all saw how multi-stages like AM6 and SM3 have OGSF in every stage and thought "oh WOW, that will totally deal with this random garbage inside me", only to figure out in many cases, we need direct intervention of fear after the fact to truly rectify it. Then we can move on to whatever multi-stages we wanted beforehand and do very well. I mean I've done 6,980.5 hours of AM6 and SM3, each stage packed with OGSF, and it still wasn't enough! Clearly, OF is needed. The problem is, when going for a magnet for example, you truly don't know just how DEEP your fear rabbithole is. And you only figure out just HOW deep, when the magnet is done and it's time to measure yourself against it's bulletpoints to determine if the run has been successful or not.
It's okay, it'll get handled. Stop Masturbating 4G is my first 4G program, and I'm very impressed with 4G. I think OF 4G is more than capable to get the job done based off what I've seen so far already. OF is looking to be my next sub in about a month or so.
Exactly what I did too. I was actually telling myself I should do OF 1.1 first because I knew it would be hugely beneficial. But then I got greedy and told myself oh well I'll just TRY OUT AM6. Even though I knew if I started it, I would have had to commit to 6 months, even if I realized it would have been better to start with OF.
Don't get me wrong, AM6 gave me a lot of benefits, but mostly inner benefits. In terms of outer benefits, I still didn't take action in some of the main sticking points in my life. And not all inner benefits at that; I still have a DEEP rabbit hole of fear holding me back. If I did OF first, I would definitely have had a job by now, which at this point I'm still having a couple OCD fears that prevent me from doing so.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - CatMan - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 09:35 AM)dissonance Wrote:(11-02-2015, 07:50 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-02-2015, 04:23 PM)dissonance Wrote:(11-02-2015, 03:47 PM)Benjamin Wrote: Definately, I haven't read the article yet as i'm short on time today but i've seen how fear is at the core of ALOT of my issues. OF seems to be the next thing we're all going to be using, funny that barely anyone used it in the past now several of us will be aroud the same time.
Yeah I know right haha.
I think the problem is we all saw how multi-stages like AM6 and SM3 have OGSF in every stage and thought "oh WOW, that will totally deal with this random garbage inside me", only to figure out in many cases, we need direct intervention of fear after the fact to truly rectify it. Then we can move on to whatever multi-stages we wanted beforehand and do very well. I mean I've done 6,980.5 hours of AM6 and SM3, each stage packed with OGSF, and it still wasn't enough! Clearly, OF is needed. The problem is, when going for a magnet for example, you truly don't know just how DEEP your fear rabbithole is. And you only figure out just HOW deep, when the magnet is done and it's time to measure yourself against it's bulletpoints to determine if the run has been successful or not.
It's okay, it'll get handled. Stop Masturbating 4G is my first 4G program, and I'm very impressed with 4G. I think OF 4G is more than capable to get the job done based off what I've seen so far already. OF is looking to be my next sub in about a month or so.
Exactly what I did too. I was actually telling myself I should do OF 1.1 first because I knew it would be hugely beneficial. But then I got greedy and told myself oh well I'll just TRY OUT AM6. Even though I knew if I started it, I would have had to commit to 6 months, even if I realized it would have been better to start with OF.
Don't get me wrong, AM6 gave me a lot of benefits, but mostly inner benefits. In terms of outer benefits, I still didn't take action in some of the main sticking points in my life. And not all inner benefits at that; I still have a DEEP rabbit hole of fear holding me back. If I did OF first, I would definitely have had a job by now, which at this point I'm still having a couple OCD fears that prevent me from doing so.
It's okay, bud.
We'll get it handled. You tend to only know your true issues holding you back AFTER you've done a program that is supposed to address them. Like me with SM3 for example.
I purposely spent a lot of time making a very good post in Shannon's journal thread, explaining the benefits to us all of OF 5G to try to convince Shannon to make it next and it seems my post was successful. After EHPRA 2.0 comes off the assembly line, it's go time on making OF 5G. I'll be buying that opening day and running it for awhile. Then maybe a redo of AM6 and perhaps THEN, revisit this whole attraction sub thing, I don't know we'll see. My SM3 experience really turned me off attraction-related subs for awhile.
I want any "fears" that could impede my progress again to be wiped out first. So, if OF 5G works, I may actually have sexual experience BEFORE doing an attraction sub. Wow, that'll be awesome haha. We'll see, awhile yet, and I'm really enjoying what Stop Masturbating is doing for me to fix that awful damage porn and masturbation long term have done to my mind...and plan to run this for at LEAST 32 days.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-03-2015
Yeah, who knows, once you overcome those fears, your SM3 programming might just shine through.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - CatMan - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 01:37 PM)dissonance Wrote: Yeah, who knows, once you overcome those fears, your SM3 programming might just shine through.
Who knows!
I truly find it hard to believe that well over 1 BILLION words could be completely negated...3,610 hours worth, wow... Maybe they'll be able to come into play when the fear is removed, or the run may be lost forever and I may need to redo with it or something else to get any effect. That'd be a horrendous waste of time if so. I don't know how the mind works in this regard to be honest. I just know that now SM3 sadly seem to be pretty much a complete non-factor, somehow. Still really disappoints me as I had very high hopes...
We'll see in time. But the OF should really improve my results with girls if I do indeed have fears related to them. I'm not sure if I do. I've had a bad enough history with them in order to have fears, I suppose.
I'm so glad OF 5G is coming soon, perfect timing.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-03-2015
I've also realized that Overcoming Fear is potentially crazy helpful for certain mental disorders or personality disorders. For example, narcissistic personality disorder and borderline personality disorder are both caused by deep subconscious fears that a person has. I know, because I am somewhat narcissistic often times, and sometimes very narcissistic, but mostly when I'm with my family, not others. However, I spend so much time with my family (I live with my mom and sis), that it's bleeding and starting to become ingrained in me. I don't have full blown narcissistic personality disorder, but I definitely am leaning towards narcissistic I think. I'm looking forward to doing this OF sub before I really become truly narcissistic or some other personality disorder.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - dissonance - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 01:43 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-03-2015, 01:37 PM)dissonance Wrote: Yeah, who knows, once you overcome those fears, your SM3 programming might just shine through.
Who knows!
I truly find it hard to believe that well over 1 BILLION words could be completely negated...3,610 hours worth, wow... Maybe they'll be able to come into play when the fear is removed, or the run may be lost forever and I may need to redo with it or something else to get any effect. That'd be a horrendous waste of time if so. I don't know how the mind works in this regard to be honest. I just know that now SM3 sadly seem to be pretty much a complete non-factor, somehow. Still really disappoints me as I had very high hopes...
We'll see in time. But the OF should really improve my results with girls if I do indeed have fears related to them. I'm not sure if I do. I've had a bad enough history with them in order to have fears, I suppose.
I'm so glad OF 5G is coming soon, perfect timing.
I'm starting OF 1.1 tomorrow, today is my last day of AM6. Hopefully OF 5G will come out soon... I don't want to have intense turbulence for too long...
And I know it's recommended to take a break, but it can't be that bad to not have a break, can it? I just want to start it ASAP because I need to get a job ASAP, which fear is holding me back a shit ton
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - Ricardo - 11-03-2015
I think people are putting too much faith in the fear subs here. I have always been led to believe that you need to face your fears to conquer them. If for instance you are afraid of heights then you need to really experience heights on a regular basis to overcome that fear. If you have a fear of women and/or sex then you need to get into the situation where sex is expected to happen. You need to get used to the naked thing, perhaps and all the lead ups to the final act. Just listening to a fear sub cannot make you overcome a particular fear. You might believe you have overcome it until the very fear presents itself in cold hard reality.
RE: All our problems are rooted in fear - CatMan - 11-03-2015
(11-03-2015, 01:47 PM)dissonance Wrote:(11-03-2015, 01:43 PM)CatMan Wrote:(11-03-2015, 01:37 PM)dissonance Wrote: Yeah, who knows, once you overcome those fears, your SM3 programming might just shine through.
Who knows!
I truly find it hard to believe that well over 1 BILLION words could be completely negated...3,610 hours worth, wow... Maybe they'll be able to come into play when the fear is removed, or the run may be lost forever and I may need to redo with it or something else to get any effect. That'd be a horrendous waste of time if so. I don't know how the mind works in this regard to be honest. I just know that now SM3 sadly seem to be pretty much a complete non-factor, somehow. Still really disappoints me as I had very high hopes...
We'll see in time. But the OF should really improve my results with girls if I do indeed have fears related to them. I'm not sure if I do. I've had a bad enough history with them in order to have fears, I suppose.
I'm so glad OF 5G is coming soon, perfect timing.
I'm starting OF 1.1 tomorrow, today is my last day of AM6. Hopefully OF 5G will come out soon... I don't want to have intense turbulence for too long...
And I know it's recommended to take a break, but it can't be that bad to not have a break, can it? I just want to start it ASAP because I need to get a job ASAP, which fear is holding me back a shit ton
Give it a week to settle in and relax. It's worth it.
A week is nothing, just take it easy after the run and let things calm down a bit.
Then 7 days of rest, and go into a new sub.