(11-02-2015, 09:08 AM)enoch Wrote: I know that feeling bro. What you can do now is keep using Alpha Male indefinitely (minimum 3 runs of stage 1 - 6) to rid your insecurities. At that point I can almost guarantee you'll be interested in something else than increasing height, but use Grow Taller sub for 2 years.

These insecurities go away with AM subliminal and age. You'll either accept that these insecurities hold you back but does not stop you and be at peace, don't give a shit or both.

P.S. keep a journal if you can.

(11-02-2015, 09:26 AM)DarkWizard Wrote: “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

― Henry Ford

Quote:..I am about to choose my course of action..

• Perhaps the most important is to defer actively getting with women while working on yourself. I very well know that it is very hard to do especially at 21yo. Consider this perspective: you have 9 years until 30. Give the next 3 years solely to yourself. Improve yourself. Become wiser.
  
  How do I improve myself I hear you ask? Well couple of things I listed in the rest of the bullet points below and there is the internet. Here is a freebie https://www.quora.com/search?q=improve+myself
  
  This man figured it out a couple hundred years ago: https://41.media.tumblr.com/db64d2ac060eebb7056394a5c0cd58b2/tumblr_nk2uq8taV51tssyz8o1_500.png print this out, put this up wherever you lay your eyes on when you open them first thing in the morning e.g. ceiling, bathroom mirror, cellphone.
  
  On a side note, past iterations of AM (excluding AM6) did not have lead-in for SM. This was changed due to demand for attracting women while using AM, I am guilty myself but now I can see why Shannon held the stance for previous AMs, it is a distraction and should be a side effect of what you are trying to become anyway. And magnets were created for this reason, as a complement to AM.
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• Run AM thrice at minimum, consecutively or taking breaks running ASC or DAOS in between. I say this because when I started I figured I need to remove insecurity and negativity so I ran AM2011 and then thinking I was stable enough I did Grow Taller 3G. In hindsight this was a painful lesson. I was constantly having negativity about the effectiveness of the sub, height insecurities running rampant and girls I like rejecting me all in a year I spent listening. I was about the same you are now minus the body and the girl... and 4cm less (116lbs/163cm). I remember how awful I feel when I have to buy clothes in the kids department (and damn, why are kids clothes selection fucking sucks? LOL). Could've run the newer AM5 twice for that amount of time to drastically reduce insecurity and negativity (my current state, very peaceful although why is it that AM stage 4 always drives me to depression?) and then Grow Taller (5G nowadays) although after running these DAOS-AM2011-GT3G-AM5-AOS4G-WM2-BASE5G-AM6 my priority has changed to building wealth. Women and my height doesn't faze me anymore than missing/starting late of what I want to actually do in life when I'm not distracted by those two.
  
  Here is an inspirational thread for committing to sub for a couple years, see his before and after pictures: http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-2565.html amongst many here. Also checkout Ben's video http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5484-post-88078.html#pid88078
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• Read and/or watch. I cannot stress this enough. There are threads here with suggestions, this is one of them http://subliminal-talk.com/thread-5620-post-77865.html
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• Repeat after me, Financial Independence. Maybe you are rich. Maybe not. Whatever the case, when it comes to money learn how to acquire and manage it efficiently.
  • http://www.madfientist.com/
    
  • http://www.mrmoneymustache.com/all-the-posts-since-the-beginning-of-time/
    
  • http://forum.mrmoneymustache.com/
    
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• Desentisize yourself against height criticisms and other things--CAVEAT: it might frustrate you or make you angry. But at this point in my life I find these hilarious.
  • https://twitter.com/heightismxposed
    
  • http://someimage.com/FZ4n
    
  • more of those: https://www.google.com/search?q=twitter+heightism&oq=twitter+heightism&aqs=chrome..69i57.2253j0j1&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=91&ie=UTF-8
    
  • might make you feel better: https://www.reddit.com/r/short/
    
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• Finally, I am reluctant to add this but Discover the Red Pill. In a nutshell, it is about realizing the status quo, where you stand and then utilize whatever it is to succeed your goal in this environment. Mostly about understanding the nature of women and becoming a man. You will encounter misogynists, be labeled or criticized as such and maybe become one yourself but it is all a part of process.
  • Required reading: http://therationalmale.com/the-best-of-rational-male-year-one/
    
  • Read the side bar https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/2q582c/a_comprehensive_guide_to_the_red_pill/
    

Quote:I agree,yes, and I do realise it's all the beliefs and about being a man but how many 175-180-185 cm women would date a shorter guy,even if he is the best man they have ever met ? Minority.The minority of the minority,actually. Let's be realists here.And to make the matters worse, women my age (21) are very rarely shorter or as high as me..VERY RARELY.

Quote:it all sounds very nice 'what you believe you achieve' but I can't actually control women's beliefs on height . Which are something along the lines of 'yeah, he is a great guy, the greatest ever, but only if he wasn't so short.It will be ridiculous when we kiss when we hug when we have sex .Standing next to him, I will feel ridiculous and others may ridicule me.And I want tall children.. and so on...)

Quote:I bet you are not a short guy man, because you posted this . You don't know what it is, seriously..It destroys me every single day and minute.. once when I said I was 21 a woman said 'i couldn't guess you are more than 16' and she is right, this is the honest truth, no matter how we reframe it, this is how I look, even though I am musculary ripped as a 20+ guy.. when i Get 30 it will be the same..looking like a teen.. ridiculous.

Quote:How can my inner reality be strong when my outer reality based on my height will always be bad, no matter what..

Quote:I wonder if I get to a point where I've got rid of the insecurity and run a magnet, would most tall girls be SO attracted that they would disregard the height and date me?

Quote:Or maybe, If I run grow taller, is it possible that I have a huge potential to grow which was for some reason stunt till now, or I will grow just half an inch? Is it possible that I can grow 2-3-4 inches as an undeveloped genetic potential?

Quote:What I most wonder however is how Shannon handles things when he is attracted to a taller girl and what are his experiences with tall girls.

1. Any woman who will not give me a chance to prove myself worthy of her time and attention because I am skinny, short or look young, is not a woman who deserves to date me. She is too shallow, and she will automatically and permanently self disqualify by doing that.
   
2. I am commonly perceived to be taller than I actually am, because of how I carry myself, my body language, my attitude and my actions and confidence. When I tell people how tall I am, I commonly hear, "No, you're [2 inches taller], aren't you?"
   
3. I don't care if I date any particular woman. I don't need any particular woman, and in having that be true, I am calm and tranquil and needless around them. They sense that and that automatically opens doors for me because it tells them that I am higher value and that I have my shit together and my bases covered, and I must have other options. Women usually prioritize a man's value over height or looks.
   
4. I am undeterred by a woman's height. In fact, women shorter and smaller than me, or taller than me, are a turn on for me. I go after women a lot taller than me whenever I am interested, and I do it without hesitation. That impresses them because most guys shorter than they are are intimidated. The last one I went after was 6'1" tall and said to me, "You know, if I wasn't already involved, I would go out with you. Your confidence is very attractive."
   

(11-02-2015, 02:18 PM)Survivor Wrote:

(11-02-2015, 09:08 AM)enoch Wrote: I know that feeling bro. What you can do now is keep using Alpha Male indefinitely (minimum 3 runs of stage 1 - 6) to rid your insecurities. At that point I can almost guarantee you'll be interested in something else than increasing height, but use Grow Taller sub for 2 years.

These insecurities go away with AM subliminal and age. You'll either accept that these insecurities hold you back but does not stop you and be at peace, don't give a shit or both.

P.S. keep a journal if you can.

Thank you for this man . I am about to choose my course of action..

(11-02-2015, 09:26 AM)DarkWizard Wrote: “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.”

― Henry Ford

I agree,yes, and I do realise it's all the beliefs and about being a man but how many 175-180-185 cm women would date a shorter guy,even if he is the best man they have ever met ? Minority.The minority of the minority,actually. Let's be realists here.And to make the matters worse, women my age (21) are very rarely shorter or as high as me..VERY RARELY.

it all sounds very nice 'what you believe you achieve' but I can't actually control women's beliefs on height . Which are something along the lines of 'yeah, he is a great guy, the greatest ever, but only if he wasn't so short.It will be ridiculous when we kiss when we hug when we have sex .Standing next to him, I will feel ridiculous and others may ridicule me.And I want tall children.. and so on...)

I bet you are not a short guy man, because you posted this . You don't know what it is, seriously..It destroys me every single day and minute.. once when I said I was 21 a woman said 'i couldn't guess you are more than 16' and she is right, this is the honest truth, no matter how we reframe it, this is how I look, even though I am musculary ripped as a 20+ guy.. when i Get 30 it will be the same..looking like a teen.. ridiculous. How can my inner reality be strong when my outer reality based on my height will always be bad, no matter what..

I wonder if I get to a point where I've got rid of the insecurity and run a magnet, would most tall girls be SO attracted that they would disregard the height and date me?
Or maybe, If I run grow taller, is it possible that I have a huge potential to grow which was for some reason stunt till now, or I will grow just half an inch? Is it possible that I can grow 2-3-4 inches as an undeveloped genetic potential?
What I most wonder however is how Shannon handles things when he is attracted to a taller girl and what are his experiences with tall girls.