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Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-12-2015
Whoops, sorry I'm late, but after reading Ricardo's Journal I figured it's time to chime in. I'm currently on WM 2 - Stage 2 Day 20.
My base is one run AM 5 (11-12hrs/ day 1st stage pirated,fully purchased after that) one run AM 6 - 17hrs/ day. Some pstec which I found exceptionally useful and beneficial.
Stage one was a little bit of hell. Someone said that it's like stage 2/5 of AM6, I didn't find it quite that intense. What I did find was that I became more attractive as the stage progressed. I exhibited a lot of results in the bedroom where my FWB partner was asking me everytime we got together if I was doing something else because I was getting bigger. I found a lot of value buying and reading Vin Dicarlo's Pandora's Box and Sex God Method. However PB has not translated into a lot of results as my focus right now is being present and living my life. I have a feeling it will help later as I progress. Onto my thoughts, moods, focus and of course, women.
I was thinking about girls every second of the day. It was irritating because I feel like I came across needy and like I had no life outside of women. I was perfectly ok meeting eyes with a girl in a huge mall and then she wouldn't break eye contact, so I changed my walk from away from her to a 90 degree turn and walking straight toward her. It resulted in a friendship because I was unsure of what I wanted from her and thus gave her mixed signals. Regardless I would have NEVER, EVER had the balls to do this before Stage one. I was super irritated when anyone tried to control me especially women and for the indifferent for the most part when a girl rejected/rejects me. Felt very insecure for the last two weeks and moving into Stage two and became semi anti-social the last two weeks of it.
This means that I didn't want to go out to actively seek anyone's company, but I would quickly engage in random conversations with strangers and be able to carry it and they would look at me expectantly and I would think that they were vampires because they weren't carrying their side of the convo. At the end of stage one I felt a lot less needy, defintely more attractive, disconnected from rejection, etc.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-12-2015
Stage two - Day 20 - 11 hrs/ day
I chose to do less hours than my previous subs as I pretty much had no life during AM6. During Stage 2 I have felt like I have been aimless pretty much every single weekend. This has caused anxiety, but that is starting to taper away as of yesterday.
I have had one woman walk up to me and talk to me, but I wasn't attracted and so shot her down. I am consistently told that I'm attractive, but I'm VERY intense and intimidating. The reaction that I get from almost all women is eyes to the ground, on most days I try to smirk to make them feel more at ease on their second take, but that is met with mixed sucess. I'm entertaining getting someone to watch me and see if my body language is skewing the interaction. I find that I'm becoming attracted to girls outside my normal type. Usually I'm attracted to petite, cerebral, gymnast types and that fits my current fwb, but I think I'm using that relationship as a crutch to not seek anyone else out. Now I'm seeing inner beauty more aka sometimes the beautiful $!&@# types, sometimes a little bit healthier (I don't do unfit by any means). Still kinda weird.
I illiict a hostile response from really attractive girls, but I'm told that is because I'm so confident, dispite not feeling confident (thank you AM6 haha). I'm told that I'm emotionless and cold in my texts, which has caused me some issues, but I'm trying to learn how to put my humour (fairly sarcastic) into my texts.
I feel like WM has been making me want an overarching purpose outside of women. This has been soooooooo frustrating as it comes out as emotional blah in regards to what I am doing with my life. I have a good job and I make pretty decent money, but I'm house poor and I was using PSTEC to try to program the desire to get rid of my house into me. My intuition is getting ridiculously better. It used to be based somewhat on a game theory model such as Person A does this and the statistical probability is that Person B will do this as a result. Now I find that it is based on instinct. That's it for today.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - SargeMaximus - 04-12-2015
I'm enjoying your posts. Have you done approaching at all during the day?
Also, what is your experience with women before subs?
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - ffaux - 04-12-2015
Thanks for sharing! I can't wait to run WM myself!
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - Ace - 04-12-2015
Thanks for sharing man. Keep updating.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-13-2015
(04-12-2015, 02:48 PM)ffaux Wrote: Thanks for sharing! I can't wait to run WM myself!
As everyone, including Shannon, says Have a good base. If you don't I could see it being pretty rough because of what it brings up about you. Good luck!
(04-12-2015, 12:34 PM)SargeMaximus Wrote: I'm enjoying your posts. Have you done approaching at all during the day?
Also, what is your experience with women before subs?
Thanks SargeMaximus, I actually almost exclusively approach during the day. Have for the past two years. Coffee shops, on transit, grocery stores I don't care. Still get anxiety like it's my first time a lot.
I have been in relationships for most of my life up until 3 years ago. I always a girl in the wings. I apparently (I say this because I don't completely see it) have a skewed reality when it comes to sex, women and me. My challenges before were Neediness, not many boundaries, putting girls on pedestals. Typical crap.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - SargeMaximus - 04-13-2015
(04-13-2015, 04:51 AM)brightike Wrote: Thanks SargeMaximus, I actually almost exclusively approach during the day. Have for the past two years. Coffee shops, on transit, grocery stores I don't care. Still get anxiety like it's my first time a lot.
I have been in relationships for most of my life up until 3 years ago. I always a girl in the wings. I apparently (I say this because I don't completely see it) have a skewed reality when it comes to sex, women and me. My challenges before were Neediness, not many boundaries, putting girls on pedestals. Typical crap.
You're welcome.
You mention having a skewed reality yet you're doing quite well despite it. Any idea what it is you ARE doing or NOT doing that has made the difference?
I myself have no neediness, nor do I put girls on pedestals, but I can see I have no boundaries. How does that factor into women? (I'm trying to identify my sticking points because right now I don't see any, but they are there.)
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - CatMan - 04-13-2015
Thanks so much for posting about your WM2 experience. I will be following this with great interest. The more journals on magnets, the better!
I'll be practising what I preach in two weeks when I start SM3 myself.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-13-2015
(04-13-2015, 05:11 AM)SargeMaximus Wrote:(04-13-2015, 04:51 AM)brightike Wrote: Thanks SargeMaximus, I actually almost exclusively approach during the day. Have for the past two years. Coffee shops, on transit, grocery stores I don't care. Still get anxiety like it's my first time a lot.
I have been in relationships for most of my life up until 3 years ago. I always a girl in the wings. I apparently (I say this because I don't completely see it) have a skewed reality when it comes to sex, women and me. My challenges before were Neediness, not many boundaries, putting girls on pedestals. Typical crap.
You're welcome.
You mention having a skewed reality yet you're doing quite well despite it. Any idea what it is you ARE doing or NOT doing that has made the difference?
I myself have no neediness, nor do I put girls on pedestals, but I can see I have no boundaries. How does that factor into women? (I'm trying to identify my sticking points because right now I don't see any, but they are there.)
K Just getting a bit of idea of where you are reading your EPRHA journal. I'll chime in on the handling a girl that calls you a player. I sarcastically admit it and exaggerate the shit out of it like:
Her : so you're a bit of a player huh?
Me: Totally I actually have a harem.. 60-70 girls... Hard to keep up with, but they're happy.
Her : (usually realizing that she was kind of being a little hostile) No you don't, you're lying.
Me: No really.. I swear.. Just looking for some additions
In reality Sarge I don't believe I play. I believe that I'm not in the place for a relationship right now and I'm living my life and IF I meet people on the way that I want to share some amazing experiences with then great.. If not great, I'll entertain myself.
On a side note boundaries show that you won't just take anyone. I don't know what SM is like yet, but I flat out refuse to have sex with just anyone. Mess around..... Maybe.. Intercourse.. NOPE. I have experienced that in a girls eyes that if you will give it up easy to her then.. You probably will with anyone. It also let's her know that you care about yourself enough to be of value. Maybe someone else can be more articulate with that, but that's what I think.
With that said.. You can escalate quickly and get sex if you want, but usually most people are looking for a few partners that they can have a lot of sex with. When lots of sex is your goal.. Prolonging a couple days (max 2 weeks) seems to be the best in my opinion.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-13-2015
Flipping through some other journals I noticed some other things that have happened. I am not interested in porn at all although I did watch a couple times back in stage one. I also attended a swingers club this past weekend and noticed that if I don't know the people involved then I'm not interested. I believe that is related.
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-16-2015
Day 24 - 11 hrs/ day
Although I may be decent with women sometimes it just falls down. For those that don't know.. I'm 33, but I am often told that I look 25. So that opens a wider range of ages up for me I guess haha. I do yoga 3 times a week and am pretty disciplined with it. I have taken transit for a couple years and about six months ago I met a girl on the bus... Ran into her again three months ago and, lo and behold she showed up in my yoga studio a month and a half ago. I'm normally very courteous and avoid developing relationships in places I consistently go. But it was not to be. She introduced herself to me three weeks ago. I got her number two weeks ago and we went out on sunday. I purposely go on low risk, something I'm going to do with or without her, dates. We went for dessert hit it off and she told me she just turned 21. I don't care in the slightest, so we continue talking and hanging out. It was windy as all get outta here and we couldn't walk which I think is a great date event. I can walk for a long time and if she whines it tells me something about her. So we drove...
Talked quite a bit and I ended up escalating and kissing her which was pretty electric. Before we kissed though she asked me how old I was I told her and she said OH!... That's old.. I gotta think about this. We parted ways in a good place, but yesterday we hung out again, but the vibe was COMPLETELY different. I asked if we should talk about what she was thinking about the last couple of days she said maybe a little later. Not two mins later she loudly exclaims "Isn't it weird that I'm only 21" I didn't think it was and she tried to change my perspective. It just ended up being not good at all. Basically I went to see if the electricity was still there when we kissed and she had the most disgusted look on her face that it swept my legs out from under me. I actually had to sit down. To go from electric to disgust is a far jump in three days. Especially when I didn't do anything wrong.
Needless to say she wants to be friends because "I'm cool, and super hot". I think that is a crock of I don't have the wherewithall to be straight up with someone. I deleted her messages and number from my phone (usual method for getting rid of someone in my life)
On to the pluses lol. I feel a lot better than I did this morning and think this will be a huge growth point for me or at least the first jump of many. Looking forward to handling rejection better, but I know that slowly I'm getting TONS better than I was. The coworker that I have had for ten months (he's done EPRHA/OED) says that he has really noticed the difference in me since I came there. I find that I am not chasing girls as much, but I believe with a weaker AM base I wouldn't be able to push through with WM. I read that a lot of people look at dropping WM 2-3 stage.. I can see why. Not for the feint of heart, but oh SO worth it if it's 40% what Shannon promised... And isn't it alway. Enjoy yr day folks!
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-19-2015
I'm very curious about something. What is the normal escalation path aka from when you meet a girl and start escalating how long does it take until first kiss. Does anyone else skip "bases"?
RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - SargeMaximus - 04-19-2015
(04-19-2015, 12:20 PM)brightike Wrote: I'm very curious about something. What is the normal escalation path aka from when you meet a girl and start escalating how long does it take until first kiss. Does anyone else skip "bases"?
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RE: Brightike's Unfashionably Late WM2 Extravaganza - brightike - 04-19-2015
Haha thanks Sarge. I'm not looking for escalation tips. I'm asking what the typical "I'm ok with girls, but that's it" kind of guy experiences with women. I have been a first to third base guy my entire life. I want a guide on how to maintain friendships/relationships (see longterm connection). Not in a controlling manipulative way. I found out literally 30 min ago that I don't ever touch women unless I'm seducing them. When I meet them or when we're in public there is no contact as friends. Blasted my mind as I think about the friendships that have fallen apart due to me being cold or disconnected:S